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cx
from Norway on 2005-02-16 15:14 [#01501431]
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man, its just so awesome i cant get over it.. at first i digged cap.iv the most, but now the first track 'gantz graf' is starting to dawn on me.. as for dial.. thats the weakest track.
also i bought the dvd yesterday and it was so awesome
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brokephones
from Londontario on 2005-02-16 15:17 [#01501436]
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I found the vinyl in my local record shop which usually only carries indie punk and overly white music. It was a steal at $6 CAD
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r40f
from qrters tea party on 2005-02-16 15:18 [#01501438]
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i agree that it is awesome.
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nacmat
on 2005-02-16 15:20 [#01501446]
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its fake
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brokephones
from Londontario on 2005-02-16 15:21 [#01501449]
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You're right. I didn't actually steal it. But the price was gooooood
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cx
from Norway on 2005-02-16 15:21 [#01501450]
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hahea
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magicant
from Canada on 2005-02-16 15:26 [#01501459]
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wtf, dial isn't the "weak" track - there is no weak track on Gantz Graf, that is a solid EP; each track is dependant on each other for a cohesive piece of work. it's 20 minutes of pure brilliance.
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dog_belch
from Netherlands, The on 2005-02-16 15:30 [#01501466]
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It's noisy wank for tweenagers.
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Exaph
from United Kingdom on 2005-02-16 15:30 [#01501467]
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which version are you talking about?
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clint
from Silencio... (United Kingdom) on 2005-02-16 15:43 [#01501492]
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You say that a lot sir.
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dog_belch
from Netherlands, The on 2005-02-16 15:48 [#01501503]
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I admit there's a pattern forming. Lately. I have a headache, let me be.
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nacmat
on 2005-02-16 15:56 [#01501513]
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let you be... cos I need you here to call me teenager (when I am 29 it feels so good... I listen to snares just to hear you call me teen)
respect
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cx
from Norway on 2005-02-16 15:58 [#01501514]
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i just think gantz graf and cap.iv are the most interesting
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dog_belch
from Netherlands, The on 2005-02-16 16:04 [#01501521]
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Tienes todo mi respeto, ¡por supuesto! Lo siento, solo no puedo dejar de quejarme sobre V.Snares y Autechre despues de Confield, porque ... han arruinado LA MUSICA, pero eso es todo.
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CS2x
from London (United Kingdom) on 2005-02-16 16:08 [#01501528]
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I can't for the life of me understand how anyone could like the first track without the video-I mean wow, they did a noisy fucked up beat for the first bit which randomly switches to another section, where they hide a basic melody behind walls of mildly rythmic noise. yay.
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r40f
from qrters tea party on 2005-02-16 16:09 [#01501532]
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i don't know... i just do.
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nacmat
on 2005-02-16 16:26 [#01501567]
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its nice to have diferent views on music
discussion makes us more intelligent I guess... at least we exsercise our brains
but I will tell you something I would love to smoke some marihuana and drink some good whisky (or whatever you like) with nice aphex or autechre in our ears while chating with you, lee, goran and some others
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r40f
from qrters tea party on 2005-02-16 16:28 [#01501573]
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every time i hear the title track, it sounds even better to me. one of my favorite ae tracks ever. this ep is flawless, imo. i'm listening to it right now, in fact.
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elusive
from detroit (United States) on 2005-02-16 16:32 [#01501579]
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cap.iv is ... welll .. no words for it
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zero-cool
on 2005-02-16 16:46 [#01501603]
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the first 3 seconds are cool
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Dael
from the low end (Australia) on 2005-02-16 16:57 [#01501618]
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not bad, but it's definitly my ae album with the most dust in the collection. It just doesn't seem to pull me back later on down the track like "chiastic slide" or "amber". Oh well, u get that...
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jakson909
on 2005-02-16 16:57 [#01501619]
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gotta love pitch delay with the feedback all the way up!!
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tallyho
from Vladivostok (Russia) on 2005-02-16 16:58 [#01501622]
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yeah... especially when slowed down
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Atli
from ReykjavÃk (Iceland) on 2005-02-16 17:00 [#01501625]
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cap.iv had an instant good feel to it. dial isn't good imo and i haven't listened to gantz graf enough, which might be good. so this ep is ok i guess.
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nacmat
on 2005-02-16 17:13 [#01501648]
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btw I love this ep from a to z
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oyvinto
on 2005-02-16 17:21 [#01501658]
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i've got the cd/dvd, and the gantz graf video has to be the best visualization of a track ever.
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ThomasRhombus
from ipihchi (Saint Helena) on 2005-02-16 17:43 [#01501679]
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i think that's true, a close second would be "natural rythm" by Coldcut. the nature cutup video synched to music.
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Mertens
from Motor City (United States) on 2005-02-16 18:49 [#01501757]
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cap.iv is the only song I know that pulls of dual time signatures perfectly. Singular.
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Vestron
on 2005-02-16 19:05 [#01501779]
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dial has this cold medical vibe going on, it's nice. especially the gargling bass line through out the end half. makes me feel good
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2005-02-16 19:06 [#01501783]
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hmm, i only listened to it twice perhaps..not my kind of sound i think :)
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elusive
from detroit (United States) on 2005-02-16 19:24 [#01501805]
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what are dual time sigs, mertens?
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clint
from Silencio... (United Kingdom) on 2005-02-16 19:36 [#01501814]
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Kashmir by led Zepplin??
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Mertens
from Motor City (United States) on 2005-02-17 07:15 [#01502307]
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Elusive, from 4.14 to 5.25, each bar can be divided by three(waltz time) or by two. Choosing one or the other produces a completey diffrent yet perfectly in scync rythym pattern. Try alternating between the two during the above time frame and you will see how fucking clever they truly are. :)
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elusive
from detroit (United States) on 2005-02-17 07:39 [#01502335]
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hmm that's always been my fav part of the track :p
yeah that's pretty insane, please tell more.
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giginger
from Milky Beans (United Kingdom) on 2005-02-17 07:43 [#01502338]
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Gantz Graf freaked me the first time I heard it. Spikee Dragon made me a CD with it on and the first time I heard it I sat bolt upright in bed and did a WTF/LOL face. I only just realised that.
I bought it ASAP after that.
Spikee is awesome.
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Exaph
from United Kingdom on 2005-02-17 07:43 [#01502339]
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i wish i knew more about music making..
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Exaph
from United Kingdom on 2005-02-17 07:47 [#01502343]
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but does this cleverness mean that cap.iv is good though?
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Exaph
from United Kingdom on 2005-02-17 07:47 [#01502346]
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how did u figure that out mertens? btw.
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giginger
from Milky Beans (United Kingdom) on 2005-02-17 07:48 [#01502348]
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I can't think of another example.
It's a cracking example and one that I'll try to remember more.
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Mertens
from Motor City (United States) on 2005-02-17 08:28 [#01502383]
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Nope, cleverness is just part of it. But it's a big part :) The beginning of the song hinted at this duality as diffrent beat patterns are layered together. I actually found it by mistake though: the song was playing at that part when I put my earphones on. My frame of reference was slightly off so I started hearing this other pattern. After a couple of listens, I traced it back to 4.14 and started tapping out the beat by two's and three's for the same period and it just poped out.
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Bob Mcbob
on 2005-02-17 08:54 [#01502399]
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i agree that dial is the weakest track of the 3
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E-man
from Rixensart (Belgium) on 2005-02-18 05:58 [#01502868]
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drukqs is also full of polyrythms, they are 'cleverly' hidden so that you can always feel a 2 or 4 beat.
it is a hard thing to do well and ae do that thing right too! (don't remember which songs, but i'm sure there's other examples of ae songs with clashing signature on older records, maybe lp5...)
cap.IV is a wonderfull song at all levels...
gantz graf is a very solid ep IMO.(i have the dvd version, and my friend bought the vynil, dial and cap.IV are so heavy it's frightening to play loud)
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Combo
from Sex on 2005-02-18 10:28 [#01503347]
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gantz graf = my favourite ae track
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earthleakage
from tell the world you're winning on 2005-02-18 10:46 [#01503369]
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boresome
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nacmat
on 2005-02-18 10:52 [#01503372]
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where is spikee dragon?
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obara
from Utrecht on 2005-02-18 10:53 [#01503374]
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i love dial . it's awesome. i can truly and fully understand the meaning of this track. omg
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elusive
from detroit (United States) on 2005-02-18 11:00 [#01503380]
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they all play their own part
it rox on vinyl
CRANKED!
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giginger
from Milky Beans (United Kingdom) on 2005-02-18 11:05 [#01503388]
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I have no idea. He randomly comes on now and again. He was setting up his own label. There's stuff on the site but nothing seems to have happened. Shame. He was a top bloke.
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mashnote
from mol (Belgium) on 2005-02-18 11:07 [#01503391]
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i know & love the feeling of getting into a song at the 'wrong' moment. it can be a true mindfuck at times.
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Vin3islih
from United Kingdom on 2005-02-18 11:16 [#01503401]
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Gantz Graf is amazing- possibly better than a lot of Draft 7.30 imo.
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