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my friend claims ae did it in FL Studio with randomiser - yes or no ? |
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no |
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yes! hey this would make a great poll |
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until Phobia would ask Sean or Rob what the truth is/was - if they remember, heh |
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No. Come on, they are a bit more technical than that |
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definitely |
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dear panda , i said : "my friend". just for the record i say NO. i'm just very curious HOW |
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I'm sure they coded their own randomizer |
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they surely code a lot but probably they could use a "simple" tool from time to time, eh ? |
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you like it or not? |
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FL whoo madness random |
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very. but this is a purely technical thread, not about "like/don't like". what's Your guess ? |
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i guess coding a randomizer would'nt be much work. |
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can't tell really because i don't know that song..it'd be a bit weird if they really used fl tho :-) |
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When ae take a dump do they use [ ] white bog roll [ ] coloured bog roll |
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where's the fun in white one?? |
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it just shit anyway |
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for the bogrolls i mean |
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It's minimalism. |
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You guys investigate way too much.. P. |
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why weird ? don't You use randomiser sometimes ? |
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come on Sean, tell us the secret :P |
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does it really fuking matter? |
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no, but i never make any music so that might be it.. |
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of course not. like a zillion threads at xltron compared to the emptiness of universe. or the blankness of toilet paper. can You answer the fuking topic question tho ? |
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Yes, because if you find out your favorite poet uses an affordable pencil instead of a quill pen made out of the rarest extinct ostrich species feather crafted into a pen by a reincarnated Venetian thirty-second level bard, he is no longer a good poet. He is a hack. |
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more importantly, if they used a randomizer, which modulus algorithm did they use and what random seed? |
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AHAHAHAHA :D |
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hahaha! |
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i'm [almost] sure - if you met them You'd ask a lot of similar questions about their tracks. more or less detailed. well, WOULDN'T YOU ? heh |
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what would You use to make a beat like this then ? |
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brian chippendale. |
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Your fav artist these days ? |
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i can't remember what it sounds like. in fact i don't even know what album it's on. |
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I think it is interesting to discuss and read about different methods and approaches that musicians are using nowadays. Especially with autechre, some of the things they do with sound leave me wondering about their methods. Its quite neat. |
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one of them yes. but he's great at programing. |
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shit, man ! and i'm spending my time here clicking that damn F5 waiting for Your professional comment - and You say You don't know it ?! aaaa ! don't make write it again : AUTECHRE 6IE.CR DRAFT 7.30 WARP RECORDS cheers |
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this is close to what i had in mind starting this thread |
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i'll check that. thanx |
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now, gentlemen, if You'll excuse me - i need to take my g/f to and let's wait with solution to this topic until Sean and Rob log in here next time cheers |
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I know Surripere's beat was done with a randomizer. A lot of what they do is more lazy and basic then we think I reckon. And a lot of it is way beyond what many do with technology too. It depends on the track. |
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good point - and good summary. thanx. |
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My opinion - We know from interviews they use Logic and Digital Performer from time to time. Those programs are Mac only. FL Studio is PC only. I would hazard a guess they never or very rarely use PC's therefore wouldn't use FL studio. I'm in agreement that they probably almost exclusively program there own Max, C Sound, Super Collider, Kyma, Reaktor etc. etc. patches for their own work. I recall some stink being made awhile ago by someone who claimed they used one of his Reaktor or Max patches to achieve the characteristics of a particular song without giving the proper credit. One of the AE boys came out and stated that while they will check out other people's plug-in creations they would never use someone else's work on their own albums. This probably holds true for stock fx as well. |
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werd |
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i know i can get a similar type of sound by fucking around with Ableton Live's sample offset in the envelope menu while playing a drum loop. |
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can You show links to particular interviews then ? |
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this is one of the interviews that talks a bit about their methods |
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i'm remembering now that it was Rob Brown who was defending their work on a rare message board post. i'm trying to hunt it down. i can't recall what board it was. i'll link it if i can find it. |
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AR - Does software you use have any control over Autechre output? SB - No, you have to define everything before you can even start. I don't understand what part you think the software is responsible for, exactly. AR - Generative music... SB - Well, no no what is generative music? AR - Algorithmic music, random elements in system... SB - This is the part you don't understand. You don't know what you're talking about. Do you know anything about generative music? AR - Generative to me means generative algorithms, evolving systems of... SB - So you know about mapping complex numbers against imaginary numbers, but what can you tell me about our music? Do you actually know anything about the way that we make music, or are we speculating? (laughs) AR - I am speculating, so tell me... SB - For start, the word 'random' -- it takes the shit right out of me. There's absolutely nothing random about what we do. There might be a lot of number crunching going on but there's nothing random in there. AR - So you're not making instantaneous decisions based on whatever the computer is spitting out at a given time? SB - Well I don't know, it depends what kind of action or reaction to a situation you've got. I mean, yeah, if I'm controlling a patch that behaves recursively then there's a vague quantum where I can only use my ears to determine exactly what's going on process-wise because I couldn't possibly see and process the numbers in realtime. Any sort of perceptive reaction on my part is going to play a part in the way that we react to the system, or the way we react as part of the system, but, like any quantum value as soon as you kind of ascertain what it is it changes. The problem with it is that it crumbles as soon as you discuss it. I mean, all music is generative. Okay, any music. There's no.. as long as there's a rule and there's a determination in terms of process and you've g |
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it's not that hard to make it as you hear it to be...that's the cleverness in their music. |
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