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mrgypsum
on 2005-01-17 12:38 [#01463660]
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Now, lets discuss Autechre - Draft 7.30 [WARPMC111P]. Details can be found here
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mrgypsum
on 2005-01-17 12:38 [#01463662]
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does anyone only have this? and not the cd version
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nacmat
on 2005-01-17 12:47 [#01463671]
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why? wanna trade?
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vlari
from beyond the valley of the LOLs on 2005-01-17 12:49 [#01463674]
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Yep, and I recall my fellow Norwegian, mortsto-x, owning one too.
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mrgypsum
on 2005-01-17 12:54 [#01463682]
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no, but draft 7.30 almost sounds like it should have been left as a cassette release - side A lasts until the end of surripere, and side A all goes together quite nicely - side B contains the rest of the album, and those songs fit together to - its almost uncanny how much the album is like this promo - makes me think about draft 7.30 as a cassette release.
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xceque
on 2005-01-17 12:54 [#01463684]
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I own two of the promo cassettes, but since I only own 1 CD version the CD and 1 tape cancel each other out and so therefore... yes! :D
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vlari
from beyond the valley of the LOLs on 2005-01-17 12:57 [#01463687]
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The question is: Is it a jackpot if I have the Draft-CD, -vinyl and -tape?
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AlbertoBalsalm
from ReykjavÃk (Iceland) on 2005-01-17 12:58 [#01463690]
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boring i must say, forgetable. just alot of wanking around, which isn't enough to impress me. cos without the "feeling" (for rhythm, melody etc..), there is no point in fancy sound fuckery.
Reniformpuls is nice though. atleast the first part. Surripere is pretty ok.
i like their older stuff better. and a few tracks from confield.
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xceque
on 2005-01-17 12:59 [#01463692]
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I dunno, but I just remembered I have the vinyl too :)
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2005-01-17 13:02 [#01463699]
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feeling is projected. it's not inherent to music itself.
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deepspace9mm
from filth on 2005-01-17 13:06 [#01463708]
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That's the ugliest artwork i've ever seen, even for a promo.
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mrgypsum
on 2005-01-17 13:18 [#01463726]
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are you talking about the cassette version? you saw that much difference between it and the cd/vinyl versions? wow, what an ear!
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AlbertoBalsalm
from ReykjavÃk (Iceland) on 2005-01-17 13:27 [#01463750]
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yeah, i've only heard the cassette version. but i think that's enough to get the idea how the album sounds.
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mrgypsum
on 2005-01-17 13:28 [#01463756]
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why, the album is great - imo its better than a lot of stuff ive heard from more respectable electronic artists
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mrgypsum
on 2005-01-17 13:29 [#01463757]
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it is very plain jane - possible done on purpose? or did warp really want to save some cash?
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deepspace9mm
from filth on 2005-01-17 13:40 [#01463775]
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No idea... most of the promos i have are just black text on a white background. I'm stumped as to why warp would increase printing costs whilst simultaneously making my eyes want to bleed.
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mrgypsum
on 2005-01-17 13:41 [#01463777]
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its comical because, with the attention that his received - any artists would have done it for free just to get their stuff out there.
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AlbertoBalsalm
from ReykjavÃk (Iceland) on 2005-01-17 13:43 [#01463778]
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i guess i'm just not really that much into abstract electronic music. some of it sounds good, but nothing that makes me cream my pants. anyway, this is just my opinion of the album. i respect autechre, they're really doing their own unique thing. but, it just doesn't float my boat really.
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Taxidermist
from Black Grass on 2005-01-17 13:43 [#01463779]
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I loved this album, but I don't got it on tape, although the murky qualities of tape would have transfered well with the sound of this album
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Taxidermist
from Black Grass on 2005-01-17 13:44 [#01463780]
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Did you listen to the last song????
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AlbertoBalsalm
from ReykjavÃk (Iceland) on 2005-01-17 13:49 [#01463787]
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yeah i mentioned it. it's very nice, i wish rest of the album would sound more like it.
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mrgypsum
on 2005-01-17 13:51 [#01463790]
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i think this is the most accessible ae release and one of their best to date - its got some great cut up hip hop a la vproc, surripere is in my top 5 ae tracks, well side A on this is the best they have ever sounded imo, the only tracks that dont catch my attention the way the others do are theme... and vlal5, they are great and probably the most accessible you will ever get from the ae boys but i cant place them on this release, they somehow dont fit.
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AlbertoBalsalm
from ReykjavÃk (Iceland) on 2005-01-17 13:53 [#01463797]
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that's funny. because i find it to be the most least accessible.
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mrgypsum
on 2005-01-17 13:56 [#01463800]
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that would be confield imo - took me 6 months! and also that isssa release, it is great but it takes some time to 'get', whereas i immediatly loved draft - it remains for me, a mix tape of their own stuff - kind of like a best of, of new stuff.
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deepspace9mm
from filth on 2005-01-17 14:04 [#01463810]
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I've said it before and i'll say it again, i still think ep7 is the best starting point for people new to ae, at least for those who've delved a little into the stinking cesspool that is electronic music. Incunabula and amber are too meandering and "retro" (even though i do like them), and the later stuff is too gritty and abstract for "new" ears.
Ep7: The connoisseur's choice.
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mrgypsum
on 2005-01-17 14:07 [#01463813]
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my theory, and not just for autechre, is to start with the latest and work your way back - it might discourage some, but it works - if you can like where an artist is, you will like were they were - and for me i started with confield! and worked my way back to incunabula. i ended up liking everything except for incuna and amber
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AlbertoBalsalm
from ReykjavÃk (Iceland) on 2005-01-17 14:07 [#01463816]
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ep7 i've never been able to get into.
i like their eps the most. Garbage, Anvil Vapre, Envane and the 2 peel sessions.
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Phobiazero
from the next Xltronic (Sweden) on 2005-01-17 14:43 [#01463904]
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my jackpot: cd, vinyl, cd-promo, cassette
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Phobiazero
from the next Xltronic (Sweden) on 2005-01-17 14:44 [#01463907]
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oh, and the promo slipmat...
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vlari
from beyond the valley of the LOLs on 2005-01-17 14:47 [#01463913]
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Haha, congrats! Do you have some pics/scans of the slipmat? I'm intrigued...
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Phobiazero
from the next Xltronic (Sweden) on 2005-01-17 14:48 [#01463914]
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no, that was a really bad j0ke...
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DJ Xammax
from not America on 2005-01-17 14:52 [#01463925]
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"without the "feeling" (for rhythm, melody etc..), there is no point in fancy sound fuckery".
This album undeniably contains rhythm, melody and fancy sound fuckery. What are you listening to?
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AlbertoBalsalm
from ReykjavÃk (Iceland) on 2005-01-17 14:56 [#01463934]
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yeah, but most of it seems incoherent [IMO]
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vlari
from beyond the valley of the LOLs on 2005-01-17 14:56 [#01463935]
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fun-knee
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AlbertoBalsalm
from ReykjavÃk (Iceland) on 2005-01-17 15:02 [#01463963]
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haha that is so funny because it's not :)
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Phobiazero
from the next Xltronic (Sweden) on 2005-01-17 15:08 [#01463981]
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à know... i told you it was bad, didn't i?
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Exaph
from United Kingdom on 2005-01-17 15:33 [#01464038]
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Pretty cold and emotionless. I do own it, but hardly listen to it. I've tried so many times with this. I much prefer earlier stuff, and how anyone can think that anything other than Incunabula or Amber is the best starting point for Ae is beyond me. Bring back the good old days, and fast. This should have been the Matrix soundtrack, it sounds like its made by machines, void of a heart.
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mrgypsum
on 2005-01-17 15:34 [#01464039]
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go listen to analord
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nacmat
on 2005-01-17 15:41 [#01464059]
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excellent album no matter the format
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Exaph
from United Kingdom on 2005-01-17 15:47 [#01464071]
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I havent stopped listening to analord since i got my grubby mitts on it and i fucking love it; music that is technically superb AND full of emotion. cant wait for more. dont get me wrong i do love ae just not this or confield.
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CS2x
from London (United Kingdom) on 2005-01-17 16:27 [#01464132]
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I like Confield and find it very enjoyable. Weirdly though, I agree with people who say Draft sounds like wanking about...Confield was abstract, but it was also very structured and sounded very polished and finished. Draft really sounds like Ae got some cool plugins and just threw tracks together which mutated with little thought or care; sure there are some funky moments, but it does sound like a "draft" rather then a full album. Even Surripere isn't all that-that drum wankery at the end gets boring and is uneccessarily long winded.
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