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mrgypsum
on 2005-01-17 07:36 [#01463190]
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i was just wondering here how many people will go out and buy music that they have downloaded and liked? i would say that i will go out and buy the original edition 80% of the time. of course, this depends on the ease of aquiring the title, for instance, some imports run me between 20 and 25 usd. i think my limit is $25, if i have to pay more for it, then i will just settle for the mp3 version.
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marlowe
from Antarctica on 2005-01-17 07:38 [#01463192]
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NO COMMENT.
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i_x_ten
from arsemuncher on 2005-01-17 07:39 [#01463195]
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yes. i dont care about downloading music because a lot of music is ok but doesn't justify the $$$. its not doing any damage because its something i wouldnt actually buy anway. if i do love it i'll buy it no problem.
above all i prefer having a real physical copy of a recording/album
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Bob Mcbob
on 2005-01-17 07:40 [#01463196]
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i never download, i just buy and that sometimes results in be buying crap, but most of the time i am happy with what i get
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mrgypsum
on 2005-01-17 07:40 [#01463197]
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lately though, orginal editions have become much more important to me than a data file on my pc. i like the fact that i own the music, not as an algorithm makes it, but as the artist made it.
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mrgypsum
on 2005-01-17 07:42 [#01463200]
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i guess, on the flip side, I HATE WHEN I BUY CRAP, i hate when i have to go through all of the trouble of paypal, shipping etc, only to find that the music sucks donkey balls. it really gets to me
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elusive
from detroit (United States) on 2005-01-17 07:44 [#01463203]
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yes i purchase the music that LASTS (i.e., doesnt get boring after 2 weeks of listening) on vinyl only.
i dont purchase CDs, just vinyl.
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Bob Mcbob
on 2005-01-17 07:44 [#01463204]
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thats how ive felt every single time ive bought an album by squarepusher :D i keep saying to myself 'the next one will be better, its xltronic-recommended', but im disappointed every time.
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mrgypsum
on 2005-01-17 07:46 [#01463207]
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i really like squarepusher, to me he is as good as his xlt-holiness rdj *ducks, but the last time this happened to me was with warp, WAP100 cd, there were some good tracks, but THAT SUCKED! i was so angry that i had spent the money for shipping and stuff, grrrrrrr.
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Raz0rBlade_uk
on 2005-01-17 07:46 [#01463208]
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I do feel it's my duty to buy the album if I actually like it. You kinda feel like you're cheating the artist if you don't buy it.
Like I recently downloaded Bilious Paths by mu-ziq and I'll be buying it for sure.
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vlari
from beyond the valley of the LOLs on 2005-01-17 07:49 [#01463212]
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When I d/l, it's usually for checking out new stuff and/or getting tunes that cost alot of dosh on eBay and such. If I come across something I really like, I buy it. Owning a physical copy is so much more rewarding than having a boring MP3 file.
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mrgypsum
on 2005-01-17 07:49 [#01463213]
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the music that lasts, is the music you speak of lasting for all, or just for you? can you really say that a certain piece of music is forever, and all listeners feel this way? isnt all about taste? i understand the vinyl only comment, as it is the best sound under the sun, but i am a cd man myself.
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mrgypsum
on 2005-01-17 07:50 [#01463215]
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You kinda feel like you're cheating the artist if you don't buy it. i dont feel this way, i feel the artist is cheating me if i go and buy crap! this is the completely wrong way to look at it, but we are talking about business as well as art.
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Raz0rBlade_uk
on 2005-01-17 07:53 [#01463216]
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Yeah I think you should change your opinion on that one.
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Phobiazero
from the next Xltronic (Sweden) on 2005-01-17 07:53 [#01463217]
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i love the music i purchase
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Bob Mcbob
on 2005-01-17 07:54 [#01463218]
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there have been a few times when ive heard a couple of songs by an artist, liked them and bought their albums, only to discover they are awful. examples- red snapper, death in vegas, space raiders
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mrgypsum
on 2005-01-17 07:55 [#01463222]
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do you know you love the music you purchase before you purchase it?
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mrgypsum
on 2005-01-17 07:56 [#01463223]
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no thats ok, i think i will keep it, if some artist wants to earn my business, i will have to like what they put out, ....wait - not like, i will have to REALLY enjoy what they put out.
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mrgypsum
on 2005-01-17 07:57 [#01463224]
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do you see this as a very important, as in you do not want this to happen again, or were you not that miffed?
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Phobiazero
from the next Xltronic (Sweden) on 2005-01-17 07:57 [#01463225]
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always
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mrgypsum
on 2005-01-17 07:59 [#01463228]
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then you must listen to it before you purchase it, right?
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Phobiazero
from the next Xltronic (Sweden) on 2005-01-17 08:00 [#01463229]
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unless it's passarani
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X-tomatic
from ze war room on 2005-01-17 08:01 [#01463231]
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Well one example is that I going to buy 'OK Computer', as I think it's one of the best albums I've ever heard, but when I saw that it's still selling for $26 after all this time, I didn't.
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mrgypsum
on 2005-01-17 08:02 [#01463232]
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passarani? what is passarani? i do not understand what you mean, and if that was a joke, i am sorry but i missed it :)
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xf
from Australia on 2005-01-17 08:02 [#01463233]
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oh yes, absolutely.
i have discovered so much fantastic music through peer-to-peer networks; music that if i had to buy to listen, i'd never have discovered. if i truly enjoy an album, i tend to buy it.
i argue that peer to peer has actually helped the industry, and instead of completely killing it, it should be somehow regulated. large riaa-associated music labels should have fucking embraced it; instead, internet and the independence it allows is going to kill them. idiots.
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Bob Mcbob
on 2005-01-17 08:03 [#01463234]
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well yeah i was kinda pissed off, at the time i had very little money and could only afford 1 cd every 2 weeks or so. :(
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mrgypsum
on 2005-01-17 08:04 [#01463235]
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good example - i saw v snares making orange things for 32 on amazon, and i love it, but i passed - a few days ago i saw it in my local record store for 16, you can bet your ass i bought it without a doubt.
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Phobiazero
from the next Xltronic (Sweden) on 2005-01-17 08:06 [#01463236]
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i don't have to listen to a new passarani release before i buy cos i know it will rule!
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mrgypsum
on 2005-01-17 08:06 [#01463237]
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before p2p, it was very hit or miss with me, but it always involved me purchasing the music, now with p2p i can listen before i buy and make my own decision, i find this system much better, very rarely will i go out and buy something ive never heard.
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mrgypsum
on 2005-01-17 08:08 [#01463239]
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sounds interesting, any sound samples (hehe) - i guess i feel the same but instead of passarani, you can substitute autechre.
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Phobiazero
from the next Xltronic (Sweden) on 2005-01-17 08:09 [#01463241]
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there are loads of samples in the discography..... check out "unspeakable future outbreaks" or "22nd century"..
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mrgypsum
on 2005-01-17 08:10 [#01463243]
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i find this very interesting, this topic, because i know people who have not purchased music since napster! i find that a little selfish.
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2005-01-17 08:17 [#01463247]
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Yes, I often Mp3 (rather than buy) pop tracks, that I know will get on my nerves after two weeks, despite being very catchy to begin with.
Anything with any sort of longevity, I tend to buy rather than mp3.
Also, in all truthfullness; I buy more music as a result of downloading it, than I don't buy, because I have an MP3 of it instead.
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mrgypsum
on 2005-01-17 08:25 [#01463250]
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pass.. sounds good
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i_x_ten
from arsemuncher on 2005-01-17 08:27 [#01463251]
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have people forgot that you can check a cd/vinyl in a shop before you hear it? i love going into a small shop where they play it without headphones, and the staff are ususally more informed and want to discuss it.
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xf
from Australia on 2005-01-17 08:32 [#01463258]
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if there was a store local to me that did that with the music i like, i'd totally be there all the time.
i'd suggest there's very few stores anywhere like this, though :-(
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mrgypsum
on 2005-01-17 08:34 [#01463263]
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yes very few, and most that are around have it only for vinyl - youre on your own with cds
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xf
from Australia on 2005-01-17 08:36 [#01463264]
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LAZY_TITLE
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xf
from Australia on 2005-01-17 08:37 [#01463268]
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i just totally pasted that in the wrong thread
time for bed i think.
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Bob Mcbob
on 2005-01-17 08:40 [#01463274]
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every time i get a cd from hmv they say 'ive listened to that, its great'...one of these days im gonna call their bluff and ask them to go on, see if i can get the store guy to say 'yeah i love autechre, he has a great voice'...
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2005-01-17 08:40 [#01463275]
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Things I don't like about listening in store:
-Needles/tables/headphones are often wrecked/awful sound quality (far worse than low quality mp3s in many cases).
-Sometimes you have to queue to use a listening post.
-Most stores have a limit on how many you can listen to. This is bent: sometimes I take a stack of 20 records to the table and I'll buy as many as 10/15 of them.
-Lack of ample space around listening posts.
-I tend to find the staff in a lot of record stores ill informed, over opinionated and a bit try-hard. There are some exceptions, and some stores that I like, but there are plenty where you have some clueless teenager sneering at your taste in music/ignoring you whilst they dick around with the PA.
-Deafening P/A in store (especially in Indie stores) drowns out anything you can hear on the record.
-Usually overpriced.
+On the plus side, with vinyl, you can see if it is warped/skippy/etc. before you buy it.
+Occassional great second hand buys, where the store obviously don't know the real value of a record (I've picked up £50 records for £8, etc.)
Personally I prefer listening to Mp3s at home to trial a release.
I certainly have no qualms about using it to listen to things I've bought, but haven't arrived/I've not been able to collect yet, Or as a way of making things I own on vinyl "portable"/listenable in the car. Also good for in work or when at the PC.
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epohs
from )C: on 2005-01-17 08:42 [#01463281]
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yes, i try to buy the music i like.
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2005-01-17 08:51 [#01463293]
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well, i used to purchase quite a bit, but now i mostly buy only things i really like. so um that purchase/download ratio got pretty bad. i intend to buy way more when my finances improve tho :)
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i_x_ten
from arsemuncher on 2005-01-17 08:52 [#01463294]
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ok maybe i was being a bit one sided. i get totally where you are coming from, tho wanting to listen to more than about 2/3 cd's records isnt a problem really for me, as i can't usually finance for that anyway. i agree tho, it can be totally the other way, and larger stores are full of clueless pricks, apart from there used to be this one guy in hmv, who actually knew a fair bit about electronic music, and recomended four tet to me, and four tet are awesome
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2005-01-17 08:55 [#01463296]
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is awesome. although i wouldn't really call him awesome.
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i_x_ten
from arsemuncher on 2005-01-17 09:01 [#01463308]
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i know its one person smarty pants :P
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2005-01-17 09:02 [#01463310]
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i see. i'll exit this thread now.
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i_x_ten
from arsemuncher on 2005-01-17 09:05 [#01463317]
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you left your jacket
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nacmat
on 2005-01-17 09:51 [#01463406]
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if I like it I buy it
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KADO
from The Belafonte (United Kingdom) on 2005-01-17 10:27 [#01463468]
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I'm addicted to Bleep. Something keeps saying "Go on! You can afford another album, just don't go to the pub tonight... don't buy those fags, have this lovely EP instead"
Warp keeps me healthy ^_^
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