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what program do I use to play flac files? |
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winamp you say? what is this, some new kind of witchery!? |
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Get winamp plugins as part of the codec install. Some players like foobar2000 can play them natively. |
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download the 'special' installer, it will play any audio file you could ever want. winamp sucks it |
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windows media or real player no? |
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..realplayer? what..? |
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Gross. For windows media player install the direct show filter |
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no way I can change these files to another format? can I burn these into a cdr and listen to them? |
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aren't 320kb mp3s enough? i mean, there's about zero difference? |
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nacmat, do you have .cue files with the .flac files? or is it 1 flac files per song? i with cue files which store the TOC information and the titles. nero can burn flacs to audio cds with a plugin, if you have the .cue file, tell nero to burn that once you have the plugin. flac is awsome because it is lossless rather then lossy compression like mp3 (maybe you know) download http://cyberial.com/flacinstaller.asp to convert to wavs or whatever too |
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winamps works quite well yeah. |
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alberto, say for example i rip all my cds to very high bitrate mp3 or ogg or whatever, you are right, i wont be able to tell the difference, but say 2 years from now theres a new better amazing compression format, well ill be screwed and have to re rip all my cds and encode in the new format, because it is kind of terrible to go from lossy format to another format. so flac is considered good for that reason, and most of my flacs from cds are around 600kbps...so i wouldnt save all that much sapce by going to like 300kbps lossy. also flac has built in checksumming, i can confirm the integrity of my files easily. |
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in any case, using something foobar, it is also very easy to load all my cue sheets into foobar, and use the diskwriter function to create single song ogg files that are all in the proper directories and have the proper tags and everything. so its easy to create lossy files from the lossless archives. |
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by the way, to further try and pimp the flac format, i rip all my stuff using in secure mode and with offset correction on a plextor. so if i burn a flac/cue back onto an audio cd, that cd will be bit for bit identicle to the original cd. so when i want to give someone a copy of a cd, its very convinient. using any lossy format, the cd you burn may sound mostly the same but it will really be a crappy copy. |
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can i burn my flac files into cdrs without problem? |
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nacmat yes sir, as i said above nero has no trouble if you install the plugin you can install the plugin automatically by installing if your not going to be using nero, i would suggest installing that anyways, and using th e"flac front end" to decode flacs to wavs and burning those. |
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can that file have a virus? |
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no! haha oh i rmember , read this :" " NOTE: Several virus scanners are reporting that FLAC contains a trojan; this is a FALSE POSITIVE. For more info see here, here, here." links here |
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you don't have a virusscanner? EVERYONE INFECT NACMAT'S COMPUTER!!! WOOHOO!! |
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he does have a virus scanner, thats the problem, its reporting a false positive because of the nullsoft installer |
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great I changed the flacs into wavs already thanks a lot dennis now I have analord in wav quality |
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no problem. whered youd pick those up? id like to give them a listen |
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it's actually better than mp3s if you burn CDRs often, since whereas mp3 only approximates the music (albeit very well!), flac is an exact copy of the source material. Lots of audiophiles (and pointless nerds) swear by it. Some portable audio devices support it as well! |
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I am on soulseek bbut now I go to bed and I close computer tomorrow I ll be online my nick is mat_roy |
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most of all, flac is just future friendly, like i say in my above posts. and i do swear by it. |
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<-pointless nerd |
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how do you convert a wav into flac? |
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yann_g that same program that i linked nacmat up above that decodes flacs will encode flacs too. if you want to do it directly while your ripping there sre some good guides on EAC+flacs |
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Ogg is good enough for me; as a matter of fact, href="http://telgarsky.com/matusacode/orgh.html" target=blank>it is very close. |
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mother fucking ass licking SHIT I guess you can't put modifiers (like italics) in lazy links. stupid xlt destruction parser. |
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sneakattack, ogg is awsome, i transcode all my flacs to ogg, its just not future friendly, no lossy audio is. as i wrote above: alberto, say for example i rip all my cds to very high bitrate mp3 or ogg or whatever, you are right, i wont be able to tell the difference, but say 2 years from now theres a new better amazing compression format, well ill be screwed and have to re rip all my cds and encode in the new format, because it is kind of terrible to go from lossy format to another format. so flac is considered good for that reason, and most of my flacs from cds are around 600kbps...so i wouldnt save all that much sapce by going to like 300kbps lossy. also flac has built in checksumming, i can confirm the integrity of my files easily. |
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ogg schmogg |
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oh yeah but you love mp3s and everything they stand for -you have to license the technology to create them (legally) -they suck when compared to ogg -no proper gapless playback support the only thing they have going for them is that the everyone knows the whole peer-to-peer music sharing thing as 'mp3' and they are widely supported by both hardware and software. but you know that more video games that are coming out now use ogg for their compressed audio rather then mp3? because ogg is free and open and it simply sounds better. tremor has been released which is a fixed point implimentation for decoding ogg vorbis and this means that more and more hardware will begin to support it. mp3 sucks shit and that mother fucker is going down. to be honest, most mp3s out there (say, on kazaa....) sound crappy. its better then it used to be with blade enc and all those . recent versions of LAME, can create pretty nice sounding mp3s at 192kbps. so its not like it has to sound that that bad. an ogg at q4 (~128kbps) or q5 will sound as good if not better then a 192kbps lame mp3 though..... so i mean then you are just saving space by using the ogg. (and to be picky what we are all refering to should really be specified as "vobis" even though the extension is "ogg" just because vorbis is an audio codec in the ogg family. FLAC is also part of OGG, as is speex and theora. |
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1) duh 2) I saw you mention it the first and second times, #3 was unnecessary. 3) I'm getting a portable audio player in the mail tomorrow which supports ogg 4) ogg will be around for quite a while, and accessible for much longer after that with a little bit of work since the source is open |
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go to that page I linked above. I wrote it, so it rules. |
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sneakattack, okay sorry, it just seemed that you hadnt read the first half of the thread. which portable are you getting? ive been looking around for a while. and i did check the page it is cool, good job. long live ogg |
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here is some major flac talk going on here |
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flac is pretty major |
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The main problem in your reasoning is that you listen to music with your ears, not your eyes. vorbis has big problems for portable use. too much cpu required to decode (compared to mp3), so battery life under vorbis sucks. The developers know this but it's a bit of a dirty secret. The next major release of vorbis will probably be better here though. Don't get me wrong. I'm glad vorbis exists, it's just not good enough for me to consider over mp3. The killer is indeed hardware support. I've got a whole house audio network based around and they only support mp3 and wav. |
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flac yuo! |
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yeah the thing is, with the tremor i mentioned, when hardware devices start using standalone dedicated chips to do the decoding (like you can buy a mp3 decoding chip for like 5 dollars now) then there wont be as much of a problem with the high computational power required for decoding oggs. ive seen those slim devices things Squeezebox supports most popular formats: AAC (on Mac or Windows), AIFF, FLAC, MP3, Ogg Vorbis, WAV or WMA (Windows only). AAC, FLAC, Ogg Vorbis and WMA files are supported through server-side conversion into uncompressed audio; |
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it appears as though flac is awesome |
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Without getting into a lot of boring detail, I can't use vorbis on those units because some are still on a wireless network that can't handle the bandwidth of a decoded pcm audio stream. If the unit supported vorbis in the hardware instead of decoding on the server, I'd use it. |
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yeah mine gets ogg with a firmware update, so all software =( It is veerry pricey, but my father told me "get any audio player you want" for my xmas/bday present, so after looking very carefully I took . The battery life is the only problem; maybe I should have gotten their G3 (which will have a 2 gig model soon). I'll put a thorough review on xlt a few days after it arrives. |
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