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fungusman
from Monster Island on 2004-11-22 15:39 [#01402859]
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I'm getting the 21year old blues of WHAT AM I GOING TO DO WITH MY LIFE. I make tracks and thats all I want to do, but until something comes from it Im going to need to support my electronic music ass.
So I was thinking Id goto school but I dont want to put a bunch of fucking effort into something that wont get me a good job. Everyone tells me TAKE SOMETHING YOU LIKE but thats a bunch of bull fuck man. All the stuff I like is self tought, thats half the fun right?
Like say if I took sound engineering , like what the fuck, no one gets jobs after they take those courses man. Id like to get into music production for commercials and junk, but how the hell would I start? I dont know where to go for that stuff. I can just walk up to nissan and say BUY MY SONG FOR YOUR COMMERCIAL right?
Anyway Im kind of lost, all I know is that within the next 5 years I would like get all the dumb bullshit out of the way and be set for life.
Any thoughts or suggestions besides sell your body or kill yourself? Any serious posts would be greatly appreciated! THANKS!
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2004-11-22 15:42 [#01402870]
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in 10 years i doubt you'll still want the money. in 10 years you'll be sorry if you're not going to do something you like...at least that is my experience..
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bryce_berny
from chronno (Canada) on 2004-11-22 15:42 [#01402871]
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going to school is a good idea I think the problem with wanting to make a fuckload of money, is that most of your time will be spent trying to make the money, rather than using the equipment you will presumably spend it on
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w M w
from London (United Kingdom) on 2004-11-22 15:45 [#01402873]
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Set yourself up a nice pyramid scheme. That's where the money is.
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virginpusher
from County Clare on 2004-11-22 15:45 [#01402874]
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I sometimes think along the same lines.
"take something you like" is probably near the worst answer anyone could give. It solves nothing. There is no insight or depth to that answer.
I do believe that perhaps pursuing those courses might help. I know a guy who went to a media institute and hes got some sort of sound production job. Not that i can remember.
I hate this area of life because i am quite not sure of what i want to do either. Its mildly stressful
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2004-11-22 15:46 [#01402875]
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"take something you like" is probably near the worst answer anyone could give. It solves nothing. There is no insight or
depth to that answer. "
that is because it's a simple fact.
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horsefactory
from 💠 (United Kingdom) on 2004-11-22 15:48 [#01402880]
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I really want to do a backflip in my life. Maybe even more than one! Ah, no-one knows, do they?
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fungusman
from Monster Island on 2004-11-22 15:50 [#01402885]
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Yeah I think I should take some multi media garb thing, even though I am pretty confident in my music and shit, people only want a peice of paper man.
At least i would be a better first step I guess : )
Its like the only thing that makes a king is his crown.
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bryce_berny
from chronno (Canada) on 2004-11-22 15:55 [#01402896]
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you either have to be very talented or very lucky to make a living with music
and even then, only 1% or so of the musically talented people go anywhere with it
I am just pulling that figure out of my ass, but really, having a "backup" is probably a good idea
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mrgypsum
on 2004-11-22 15:57 [#01402900]
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:)
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2004-11-22 16:00 [#01402906]
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maybe im wrong...i guess it can be either way really. i know people that prefer money over anything...it's hard to tell when you're 20 what will you prefer later in life. i know i fucked it all up.
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mrgypsum
on 2004-11-22 16:05 [#01402915]
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i would like to have money, but it is not everything, in fact i am losing no sweat over getting it or not, true, its an important factor in my life, but it only goes so far. there are many more important things, and i wouldnt care if i wasnt sucessfull or didnt get rich in my life.
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fungusman
from Monster Island on 2004-11-22 16:10 [#01402925]
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Well thats the thing like, I want to make music. I like to make music, and Im sure if I get a job doing engineering or something I would be like "WOW MY FUCKING JOB SUCKS, Im going to go make tracks now"
Rather then "Wow Im totally fucked with bills working some shitty job"
But then again, I think the main thing is that I want a wife you know? I want kids at some point too. Sounds fucked up I know but its true. And I think Im going to need to have something that I can support a family with you know? So many of my friends are old and single, that can be fun but I mean that can be just a bad as doing the family thing. To me anyway, my life is happy with love and music. The rest materialistic non sence I dont care much for. HENCE me wanting a shit load of money, to help ease social conflicts I have. Its sucks being not having money and seeing idiots waste money on whatever. It stirkes a chord of envy in me which always makes me think "Fuck I should just be fucking stupid like them and buy all this crap and be happy"
I find when you have money, you can just be like "Whatever those people are shmucks."
As bad as it sounds I think I want some sort of social defence for the future. I've been getting to much your a lazy bum all my life. Id like to be in such a powerful possition that I can be as much as a lazy fucking bum as I want and noone can tell me different because Im all set.
--- Anyway I think Im side tracking. ---
What jobs make lots of money? Plumbing and Welding I hear are good, but that seems to mechanical. I would like to be paid for my knowledge in the field more then how well I work with the tools.
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2004-11-22 16:12 [#01402929]
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oh boy...that's heavy.
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fungusman
from Monster Island on 2004-11-22 16:14 [#01402933]
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"i would like to have money, but it is not everything, in fact i am losing no sweat over getting it or not, true, its
an important factor in my life, but it only goes so far. there are many more important things, and i wouldnt care if
i wasnt sucessfull or didnt get rich in my life. "
I want lots of it because I find it useless. I hate having to worry about it. Id like to be able to sit on a lot, so if anything ever happens or whatever I can with ease handel things.
Im not going to buy cars, house etc.
And when you hate money, if you dont have it, life gets way harder. Fuck maybe I should just keep doing what I like doing.
Ahg I dont know.
What jobs are in high demand right now ?
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fungusman
from Monster Island on 2004-11-22 16:16 [#01402935]
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Maybe I should goto school here?
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010101
from Vancouver (Canada) on 2004-11-22 16:18 [#01402941]
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If you want to make loads of money in the music industry the best route would be to study interlectual property law. It means passing the bar but once you are done the cash wont stop
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Aesthetics
from the IDM Kiosk on 2004-11-22 16:51 [#01403011]
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I just found out how to become a millionaire!
first save the game as close to the Mulholland Intersection as you possible, then go to the "track betting" near the Mulholland Intersection and place a bet with all the money you have..if you win, save it and go back and so on if you loose then ofcourse load the game where you last saved it
it might be a coincidence, but when I was going to write the names and colours etc down, I noticed that most of the time
a horse with a name that contains 2 of the same letters next to each other wins
like: diddy ride or donners kebab
I had to visit the betting about 10 times and now I own the max =D
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w M w
from London (United Kingdom) on 2004-11-22 17:04 [#01403022]
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Easy way to make 25 million dollars.
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plantre
from United States on 2004-11-22 17:05 [#01403023]
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the smartest thing i can think of is to buy a cheap house, then once you pay it off, you'll still be young and you can just work part time to pay for electricity and whatever else you have. thats the life, man! and if you were living with someone else, it would be even easier. this is more or less my plan to be honest.
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2004-11-22 17:06 [#01403024]
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hahahaha
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weatheredstoner
from same shit babes. (United States) on 2004-11-22 17:36 [#01403035]
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"I want lots of money"
"I want a wife and kids"
oxymoron.
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AphexTwin11
from OOOOOO (United States) on 2004-11-22 17:52 [#01403053]
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i suggest you join www.xltronic.com
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recycle
from Where is Phobiazero (Lincoln) (United States) on 2004-11-22 17:57 [#01403060]
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yeah make a demo and demand to be on rephlex
put richards face under your boot and suggest your thoughts
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AphexTwin11
from OOOOOO (United States) on 2004-11-22 18:02 [#01403067]
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yeah make a demo and demand to be on warp
put thad's phace under your boot and suggest your thoughts
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plantre
from United States on 2004-11-22 18:05 [#01403072]
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you have to make crappy indie rock to get on warp
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recycle
from Where is Phobiazero (Lincoln) (United States) on 2004-11-22 18:05 [#01403073]
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Go Away
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AphexTwin11
from OOOOOO (United States) on 2004-11-22 18:05 [#01403075]
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walk into oncoming traffick
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AphexTwin11
from OOOOOO (United States) on 2004-11-22 18:06 [#01403076]
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j/k n008, RoFl, 0mG @ u!!!
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plantre
from United States on 2004-11-22 18:06 [#01403079]
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hmm...
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AphexTwin11
from OOOOOO (United States) on 2004-11-22 18:08 [#01403083]
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is that a bob ross?
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plantre
from United States on 2004-11-22 18:09 [#01403085]
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bob ross the subgenius with a P on his fro, yes.
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pOgO
from behind your belly button fluff on 2004-11-22 18:10 [#01403087]
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You should work at the royal mint, then you'd make fuckloads of money
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AphexTwin11
from OOOOOO (United States) on 2004-11-22 18:10 [#01403088]
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i give it 9 out of 10 giggles
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recycle
from Where is Phobiazero (Lincoln) (United States) on 2004-11-22 18:13 [#01403092]
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hahahahah i asked plantre that same ? in another thread
ahahahahha
bob ross is like nebraskan or something.........
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fleetmouse
from Horny for Truth on 2004-11-22 18:18 [#01403099]
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maybe there's a little tree and his friend who live right down in there
lots of happy little things
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AphexTwin11
from OOOOOO (United States) on 2004-11-22 18:19 [#01403100]
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are you nebraskan? Im not really i just live here. Right close to my best friend in the world; Thad Alan Smoyer
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AphexTwin11
from OOOOOO (United States) on 2004-11-22 18:20 [#01403101]
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by the by, did you ever check out that Zeus' REmix track i did?
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2004-11-24 04:31 [#01404182]
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"TAKE SOMETHING YOU LIKE "
Waste of time- there are plenty of philosophy/literary graduates who are now dustbin men.
Do something you don't dislike, that will make you a reasonable living. Unless you are doing a job you love 100% (and know you will for the rest of your life) and are prepared to live in poverty to do it, money will factor pretty highly in it.
So long as the hours/work isn't hellish, it's a lot easier to trog to work each day, knowing you'll have a bit of spare cash to spend on stuff that makes you happy, each month.
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bill_hicks
from my city is amazing it is calle on 2004-11-24 04:37 [#01404187]
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could you name some please? not that i don't believe you or anything.
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oyvinto
on 2004-11-24 04:51 [#01404194]
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i'm finishing my master degree (sivilingeniør@ntnu) summer 2005. but anyway i use most of my time making tracks and that's what i like. i hate my education, and i'm not looking forward to start working. the only plus is the saleries. i'll get MSc in petroleum technology and can get good jobs in the oil companies. but do i want that?
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2004-11-24 04:52 [#01404195]
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Erm, a chap named Andy did history of architecture and is now a gardener. One of the guys I worked with as a labourer had a philosophy degree. I have a friend named Sara who has an english lit degree and now works in a call centre.
Admittedly, none of the above are bin-men, but they are all doing jobs which don't even require a-levels, let alone a degree.
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Monoid
from one source all things depend on 2004-11-24 04:54 [#01404196]
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Life sucks, get used to it...if you are brave...KILL YOURSELF
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2004-11-24 04:56 [#01404197]
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The cash will mean:
a) You will be able to buy more gear/sw to do tracks. b) You can live frugally whilst working and then retire early and spend the rest of your days making tracks.
c) You'll have the cash to put out a record once you have some material you believe in, which will dramatically increase your chances of getitng to the stage where you can live of your music.
Not that I'm extolling the virtues of capitalism or anything.
Don't get me wrong, I don't like work, and I wouldn't do it if I wasn't paid, but money does buy you freedom to an extent :-/
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bill_hicks
from my city is amazing it is calle on 2004-11-24 04:56 [#01404198]
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ok. so we are agreed that you were talking shite. as long as that is clear.
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2004-11-24 05:05 [#01404201]
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as you said above...i'd still pick something i'd love to do over something that pays well...although, it can happen that you won't be able to get the job you want, so maybe picking a school that allows you more options is well in place. i was thinking about the same when i was 20, and i had no idea what i want to do in my life, but now i know i'd definitely study something else, something interesting...also, if you're lucky enough to know what you want to do to the rest of your life when you're deciding what to study, you get to hang out with people that have same interest as you which is great, especially when you get older..at least that's my experience.
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Monoid
from one source all things depend on 2004-11-24 05:07 [#01404203]
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JUST KILL YOURSELF........ :(
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2004-11-24 05:08 [#01404205]
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it sucks, but i bet killing yourself sucks more.
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Monoid
from one source all things depend on 2004-11-24 05:08 [#01404206]
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Life sucks its nawt worth all the hassle
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Monoid
from one source all things depend on 2004-11-24 05:09 [#01404207]
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Im just trying to be helpful
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