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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2004-11-05 17:03 [#01385209]
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the most obvious one i noticed is that most of it sounds much more melancholic, depressive, dark..
is it just me?
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r40f
from qrters tea party on 2004-11-05 17:05 [#01385214]
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what type of music? electronic music specifically?
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hobbes
from age on 2004-11-05 17:07 [#01385215]
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oh dear....
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r40f
from qrters tea party on 2004-11-05 17:08 [#01385217]
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what did i miss?
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hobbes
from age on 2004-11-05 17:09 [#01385218]
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I find some old stuff well melancholic.
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deepspace9mm
from filth on 2004-11-05 17:09 [#01385219]
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I think it's just you tolstoyed. You're in the crushing grip of a depression so vast you cannot even see it. Get professional help. Or beer.
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2004-11-05 17:09 [#01385220]
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i was thinking music in general actually.
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hobbes
from age on 2004-11-05 17:10 [#01385222]
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train, bus? i dunno you tell me. i think tolstoyed wasn't implying any "genres", just music in general.
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2004-11-05 17:10 [#01385225]
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yeah, i must have listened to more cheerfull music back then or something...
deepspace, there's no help for people like me..
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2004-11-05 17:11 [#01385227]
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well, if you have the time and will, you can comment on every genre specifically :)
j/k
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hobbes
from age on 2004-11-05 17:11 [#01385228]
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even you will be saved.
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nacmat
on 2004-11-05 17:12 [#01385230]
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are we geeks?
I feel like a geek
yes, music is melancholic lately
times are melancholic
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2004-11-05 17:13 [#01385231]
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should i dress up?
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earthleakage
from tell the world you're winning on 2004-11-05 17:13 [#01385232]
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you can have more expressive and varied instead if you want
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2004-11-05 17:14 [#01385233]
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just what i am thinking...although im not sure anymore whether the music is depressing or the depressing mood affects the way i get music.
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2004-11-05 17:14 [#01385236]
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yes please.
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r40f
from qrters tea party on 2004-11-05 17:16 [#01385239]
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sorry, i just thought that music in general is too broad to make a statement like that. of course someone's perceptions about music can and probably will change over the course of their life...
i haven't noticed any overall changes except in production values and technology. commercial music is still basically the same as it was fifty years ago, the avant-garde stuff is still perpetually new.
a lot of people said that the early 90's was a dark and serious time for mainstream music.
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plaster
from splitska 10 on 2004-11-05 17:17 [#01385241]
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it's definetly gone in a weird genre...i had that feeling a few months ago.
like,why is everyone starting to use fiel recordings in music...don't they have any inspiration whatsoever.
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plaster
from splitska 10 on 2004-11-05 17:18 [#01385244]
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well,it brought prodigy and the shamen...nlol
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r40f
from qrters tea party on 2004-11-05 17:21 [#01385249]
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i use field recordings in and as music and i love to hear them. it's one of those things that borders on-non music, so i understand why many people wouldn't get it. but it's using sound in an artistic way that can have the same impact as a musical piece. it's great to listen to.
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2004-11-05 17:21 [#01385250]
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i agree partly..but i think non-depressing good music was easier to find back then, than it is today. out of 100 new albums i've heard this year, there's probably like 5 that were good and not melancholic or depressing. hmm
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plaster
from splitska 10 on 2004-11-05 17:23 [#01385253]
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yeah i agree,but some artists just put unprocessed fieldrecordings ...so it's starts to sound shitty.
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plaster
from splitska 10 on 2004-11-05 17:24 [#01385256]
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you sir are an special brand of humans
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2004-11-05 17:24 [#01385258]
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aren't we all...
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DeadEight
from vancouver (Canada) on 2004-11-05 17:24 [#01385259]
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i disagree... music is in constant flux... but i don't think that one could attribute an overall shift into melancholy or anything... if you think that you just haven't heard the dark underbelly of the 80's... shit is it ever frightening...
and i would also say that a lot of melancholic music feels pleasant, because i find it beautiful... it's tough to describe with words because they've been oriented in such a manner that you can't really describe certain things without sounding like you are contradicting yourself...
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plaster
from splitska 10 on 2004-11-05 17:27 [#01385264]
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we are,but you are a special species
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r40f
from qrters tea party on 2004-11-05 17:29 [#01385266]
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i agree with that.
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2004-11-05 17:29 [#01385268]
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it's not that i don't find it beautiful..it's just that it doesn't help me getting out of this mood im in in the last couple of years..
i like it a lot infact, but maybe it's time to get some music that would actually sound good and be non depressing..
maybe i should just get my old 80's tapes out..
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plaster
from splitska 10 on 2004-11-05 17:29 [#01385269]
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same here
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plaster
from splitska 10 on 2004-11-05 17:30 [#01385270]
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listening to disko would help
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2004-11-05 17:31 [#01385272]
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im downloading bronski beat.
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plaster
from splitska 10 on 2004-11-05 17:33 [#01385274]
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all that 80's style is a bit too weird to me...it's not here it's not there.
it's actually very unique,but it doesn't appeal to me cos of it's gay-ish sound.
and those reverberated roland toms..jesus
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2004-11-05 17:35 [#01385277]
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gayism is excellent...well, at least it has rhythm.
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plaster
from splitska 10 on 2004-11-05 17:38 [#01385280]
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yeah...shake your stick at make me go boom
:)
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2004-11-05 17:41 [#01385283]
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:)
did you ever see a depressed gay person? didn't think so.
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hobbes
from age on 2004-11-05 17:42 [#01385286]
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thanx again for that pet shop boys track.
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plaster
from splitska 10 on 2004-11-05 17:44 [#01385287]
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true...
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2004-11-05 17:44 [#01385288]
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i'll send you that bronski beat feat. jimi somerville song later if you'l be there...im going to go eat my salad now :)
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hobbes
from age on 2004-11-05 17:47 [#01385292]
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sure, i love that song, i think. (:
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DeadEight
from vancouver (Canada) on 2004-11-05 17:54 [#01385295]
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hey Goran, you should check out Ariel Pink's Haunted Grafitti
the Doldrums
he's this crazy dude who the Animal Collective discovered while they were on tour... really bizarre pop that sounds super super lo-fi due to all the filtration it's gone through... i think he actually makes a lot of the bass lines just by beat-boxing... really really uplifting fun pop though... and it's brand new (despite sounding like it's a tape someone found inside their chesterfield in the basement circa 1979)
pitchfork panned the shit out of it... but they are just being silly
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Iroel
from Pisa (Italy) on 2004-11-05 18:37 [#01385324]
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I've been listening to morrissey today...
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ymenard
on 2004-11-05 18:46 [#01385344]
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One thing for sure is that in the last 15 years, PRODUCTION has fucking increased on every aspect of music. Really these days with all the h/s processing, they can make anything sound like a potential pop top40 easily.
15 years ago?
That was 1989. Minni Vanilli ruled the earth. New Kids on the Block. "Soldier of Love" by Donny Osmond FFS!!!! Now look these days how producers have mastered the art of compression. That bass just BOOMS, those drums just CLICK and the high-ends just feel natural, not flat. Even in Country music!!! I'm not even talking about electronic music 15 years ago, that's too easy :)
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yann_g
from now on 2004-11-05 19:17 [#01385389]
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agreed. it's getting fookin dark. i've had enough. i recommend everyone 'good day' by freeform (track 2 off late surfaces). gives a boost, great for a morning listening.
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Taxidermist
from Black Grass on 2004-11-05 19:17 [#01385390]
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Nothing is more depressing that early 1915 era folk.
What about the stuff that was comming out in the depression era?
I have a jazz album from the 1940's that is more depressing than anything I hear being put out nowadays.
The Ink Spots produced music during the 20's that was all about suicide over lost girlfriends and wives.
No. I think music has gotten less depressing. Its definately gotten more well produced. It also has less soul.
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2004-11-05 20:47 [#01385498]
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great, thanks. i'll get that!
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earthleakage
from tell the world you're winning on 2004-11-05 20:54 [#01385502]
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1989 was a great year for electronic music, it was really starting to kick off
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mrgypsum
on 2004-11-05 20:58 [#01385506]
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hey thats a great idea, lets cheer up, i know, what will cheer us up, some bronski beat! theres also this other group called joy division, they are a barrel of laughs. not but seriously, the new team doyobi is not depressing in any way, its actually pretty good, i just got into it, and usually i am a sucker for the dark emotional stuff, and actually like that kind of stuff, but doyobi kicks some arse.
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earthleakage
from tell the world you're winning on 2004-11-05 21:05 [#01385511]
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bronski beat are better than aphex twin. there, i said it.
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mrgypsum
on 2004-11-05 21:06 [#01385513]
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:)
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2004-11-05 21:06 [#01385514]
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not sure about that team doyobi...personally i find it a bit boring :)
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