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CS2x
from London (United Kingdom) on 2004-10-26 13:40 [#01372712]
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Hey,
How comes Richard Devine doesn't get more recognition? I just got his 2 albums and his E.P Lipswitch, and I think he's fucking increadable.
I know nobody would agree here, but I think he's ahead of Autechre and others in the whole sound-manipulation/alien structures area of music, as well as his stuff being darkly atmospheric and immensely complex. He even used nine computers and 5 custom built analog synths to write one of his tracks!
Check him out.
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Morton
from out (Netherlands, The) on 2004-10-26 13:53 [#01372739]
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9 computers? WHY?!
i got lipswitch btw, it's pretty good but could do with some more variation imo
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Dannn_
from United Kingdom on 2004-10-26 13:53 [#01372740]
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He tries to hard, to no avail.
Well some avail, but not that much.
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CS2x
from London (United Kingdom) on 2004-10-26 13:56 [#01372754]
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What do you mean, no avail!?
His music is mind-fucking, original, atmospheric and bizzarely funky...with some out-of-this-world sounds to boot. What more could you ask for?
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Morton
from out (Netherlands, The) on 2004-10-26 13:57 [#01372755]
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what a self-criticism
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r40f
from qrters tea party on 2004-10-26 13:57 [#01372759]
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all i know is that he has gotten an A+
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ecnadniarb
on 2004-10-26 13:58 [#01372760]
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I really like Richard Devine but he doesn't have the emotinal aspect as much as autechre do (in my onion). Anyway I am off to have a burger with fried opinions.
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weatheredstoner
from same shit babes. (United States) on 2004-10-26 13:59 [#01372761]
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I've only heard Asect:Dsect, its got some good tracks.
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roygbivcore
from Joyrex.com, of course! on 2004-10-26 13:59 [#01372762]
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hes ok
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JAroen
from the pineal gland on 2004-10-26 13:59 [#01372763]
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is that an avatar in your picture?
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ecnadniarb
on 2004-10-26 14:01 [#01372768]
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No, of course it is, when I thought of it, well the rest goes unsaid.
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sadist
from the dark side of the moon on 2004-10-26 14:03 [#01372775]
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emotional aspect ?? fuck man listen to corina chirac of asect-desect !!
why doesn't he get more recognition ? because he's boring...
i mean i listen to him now for some time, and most of his songs are exactly the same...
the same effects and everything.
going so fra that i listen to asect-desect only to the 5 song... after that it's the same
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ecnadniarb
on 2004-10-26 14:05 [#01372778]
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in my opinion.
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weatheredstoner
from same shit babes. (United States) on 2004-10-26 14:09 [#01372789]
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what about songs like "flask" and "randale" ?
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sadist
from the dark side of the moon on 2004-10-26 14:14 [#01372799]
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okay - you are right in this case. but i think that most of his songs sound very similar. the same samples etc., the same techniques
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Vestron
on 2004-10-26 14:15 [#01372801]
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i absolutely love Asect:Dsect, but 5 computers? and for 1 track? if this album was released in 1995 I'd completely understand...but now? ummmm...maybe he could give away 2 or 3 computers to some bums or die-hard fans or something, I'm sure the quality of his music won't suffer
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yann_g
from now on 2004-10-26 14:16 [#01372803]
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if he were god he would be richard divine so wtf are u talkin aboot?
none equals ae, even less surpass them. that's just because they're god.
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Morton
from out (Netherlands, The) on 2004-10-26 14:17 [#01372804]
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no no no,
9 (read: NINE) computers!
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ecnadniarb
on 2004-10-26 14:17 [#01372805]
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You have to understand exactly what he was doing to understand why he used so many...but sadly you just wouldn't "get it"...you are probably a listener of "UDM".
Peace my brother.
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sadist
from the dark side of the moon on 2004-10-26 14:18 [#01372807]
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word
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sadist
from the dark side of the moon on 2004-10-26 14:19 [#01372811]
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and what if he would use 15 pc's ?
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yann_g
from now on 2004-10-26 14:19 [#01372812]
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LOL
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yann_g
from now on 2004-10-26 14:21 [#01372814]
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the track would be 5/3 times better (that is approx 1.6666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666667)
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sadist
from the dark side of the moon on 2004-10-26 14:24 [#01372818]
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that's why afx uses 1 pc
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sadist
from the dark side of the moon on 2004-10-26 14:32 [#01372832]
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richard reminds me of otto von schirach - but richards music is much more mature. otto is just funny
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CS2x
from London (United Kingdom) on 2004-10-26 14:40 [#01372838]
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I don't know why he uses so many computers-there's one that controls the others, one used for final mixdown, etc...
I think his music is meant to be cold and futuristic and alien sounding rather then "emmotional."
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mimi
on 2004-10-26 14:41 [#01372839]
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his best song is an autechre rip off anyways, off of lipswitch; generally his stuff sounds intricately boring as hell......i just don't really care.
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thecurbcreeper
from United States on 2004-10-26 14:43 [#01372840]
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in most cases, strip away the dsp trickery and you have some goofy sounding drum tracks.
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mashnote
from mol (Belgium) on 2004-10-26 14:46 [#01372844]
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i agree with the one saying he uses too much of the same sounds, techniques. other than that, i think he's cool. but not ae, phoenecia,.. cool.
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2004-10-26 14:47 [#01372846]
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personally i love him..and i love his live act!
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isnieZot
from pooptown (Belgium) on 2004-10-26 14:59 [#01372853]
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guess what happens when you do that with autechre. I dig richard too. maybe it all does sound a bit the same. but you can say the same about autechre.
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yann_g
from now on 2004-10-26 15:05 [#01372857]
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ae evolved a lot, creating new sounds/processes on each release, their sound has always been different (though they haven't explored many different directions as autechre). who knows what their solo/'side' stuff is?
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sadist
from the dark side of the moon on 2004-10-26 15:05 [#01372858]
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no you cannot
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isnieZot
from pooptown (Belgium) on 2004-10-26 15:06 [#01372860]
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make me
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sadist
from the dark side of the moon on 2004-10-26 15:11 [#01372870]
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i think yann_g's post says everything
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CS2x
from London (United Kingdom) on 2004-10-26 15:14 [#01372874]
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He has a style, and I don't care if some of his stuff gets samey-it's still captivating.
"in most cases, strip away the dsp trickery and you have some
goofy sounding drum tracks" --That's ridiculous, the same could be said for lots of artists! The whole point is you can use DSP trickery to program complex sounds/beats out of anything!
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Vestron
on 2004-10-26 15:48 [#01372906]
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If Devine changed his techniques on every album we wouln't have Asect:Dsect and that would be a real shame because it's a great album. You see, Asect is basically an upgraded version of Lipswitch. Actually, don't even listen to Lipswitch anymore, you have version 2.0 (Asect!), and when version 3.0 is out...Asect, like Lipswitch, is obsolete!
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CS2x
from London (United Kingdom) on 2004-10-26 15:58 [#01372924]
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Aleamapper is very different to both those releases so I don't agree.
He's done an EP and an album which are similar, and Aleamapper which is far darker and less beat orientated.
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roygbivcore
from Joyrex.com, of course! on 2004-10-26 16:55 [#01372973]
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i'd take otto over r. devine any day
otto's music may be imature and silly but it's actually entertaining
i'm tha gangsta of DSP fuck with me i know trigonometry
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Rambling Madman
from the future (United Kingdom) on 2004-10-26 17:09 [#01373003]
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9 computers?!?!........ maybe he used 6 speak & spells, a G3, C64 & a P4 2.4ghz..... this sounds like the kind of crap I've been used to hearing about Aphex over the years.
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optimus prime
on 2004-10-26 17:18 [#01373021]
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what is this thing you humans call 'love'?
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melack
from barcielwave on 2004-10-26 17:21 [#01373027]
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hes is a strange guy.
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weatheredstoner
from same shit babes. (United States) on 2004-10-26 17:50 [#01373093]
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Richards girlfriend is fuckin hot.
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Zeus
from San Francisco (United States) on 2004-10-26 18:05 [#01373125]
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yeah RD is cool.
He is very cold sounding... but cold is an emotion too. Its just hard to take a lot of.
When Im in the mood, I love his music. But if not in the mood, I can't listen.
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deepspace9mm
from filth on 2004-10-26 18:15 [#01373134]
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Oh WOW i don't care. My opinion on richard devine barely stretches to "he is almost as interesting as soggy crisps".
Barely.
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idle interloper
on 2004-10-26 18:24 [#01373146]
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Hmm. The existence of soggy crisps are a sort of pardox... So are you saying that he is interesting?
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yann_g
from now on 2004-10-26 18:28 [#01373151]
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Richards girlfriend is fuckin hot.
looks like she is
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Clic
on 2004-10-27 03:55 [#01373638]
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I like Richard Devine. Sometimes his stuff can get a bit masturbatory, but beside that, I enjoy his music quite a bit. His live show is quite an experience.
"8000 BC" by Otto Von Schirach is great. I would like to hear what "Global Speaker Fisting" sounds like, but unfortunately, Asphodel LTD don't believe in doing their jobs.
Phoenecia have to be my favorite from the Schematic crew, though.
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mimi
on 2004-10-27 04:01 [#01373644]
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hey hey, speaking of schematic, how about that secret frequency crew? pretty cool stuff, well except for their lame artwork, but i guess if you like robotic dolphin's it's all right...
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CS2x
from London (United Kingdom) on 2004-10-27 04:02 [#01373647]
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Phoenecia...what do they sound like? I'm interested into getting into more music that sounds like this.
While I do ENJOY Autechre more then Devine a lot of the time, I still think he is technically superior.
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