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when both took iq tests for officer qualifications in the academy. kerry landed about 120 and bush obtained in the mid 120's. woah :) |
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Before he started drinking |
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he doesn't do drugs. |
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For fuck's sake. |
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ok. now we know. they're both idiots, but Kerry is still the better choice of the two. the best choice would be an intelligent man. |
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i thought iq's were a good tool in showcasing an individuals intelligence through problem solving. or was that the pie eating contest. wait let me refer back to my satellite hat. |
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intelligence? recognision of logical patterns != intelligence. |
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you can be good in math, but still not know what to do when there's a war on. |
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iq's do not only calculate your mathematical skills but critical thinking skills. no matter which way you cut it. iq's are one of the best known exams in analyzing someones ability to simplify a complex problem. |
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and, iq tests are terrible, they dont mean shit and are horribly subjective |
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i gotta remind myself you haven't hit puberty yet. so i'm going to make an effort and accept you for what you are now. |
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err?? IQ is for recognision of patterns and mathematical skills, and has nothing to do with simplifying problems. A problem that exists in math can probably be simplified easier by a person with high IQ, but a real-life problem.. well, that's another story. again: if you know the answer to 2+2, that does NOT mean you know how to run a country. like, a person who knows nothing about physics can see the easiest solution to a problem in physics. |
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that very reply says that you, in your mind has not reached puberty either. |
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i just picked up the phone and i got a recorded message by bill clinton saying something about 'this is one of the most important elections...' then i hung up the phone right after. have u gotten some of these messages in norway? |
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er.. no. we really can't vote for the US president from norway... |
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oh btw what i meant was there are problems such as these that do not include any mathematics in an iq test, like patterns: |
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yes, and if you look at post by me, you'll see my opinions on that.. BTW: is it random that this is topic 66660??? |
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perhaps heheh. its cool we agree to disagree :) i still think it shows that bush at least isn't as dumb as the media here in the U.S. portrays him to be. does it affect whether or not one is wiser in making important decisions. i dont think anyone knows. |
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Good point. Why do you bother US with your GWB-advertising when 90% of the board-members aren't gonna vote? |
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i'm not advertising anything. i doubt anyone is going to vote for bush regardless of what i say. i just think that some people here like to supress others freedom of speech and i wont have it. |
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No supressing here. But we WILL laugh at you, when you're gone :) |
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maybe he's not as dumb as the media over there portrays him.. I wouldn't know, since the only thing remotely up-to-date they show from america is the late night show with david letterman (the other stuff is sitcoms and drama-shows..), and he's been nagging about bush being a cheerleader for about a year, so... but he's badgering both of the candidates, though. Bush IS portrayed as stupid in norwegian media, but they also portray the entire electional circus as stupid, and they do it for both the candidates... like that rock/election-meeting Kerry had in California or something.. there was a rock-concert and Kerry had a election-rally... why do they have those rallies, btw? I think Michael Moore said it best on "the awful truth," when he said "the only people that go to Bush's rallies are people that are already voting for him, and the only people who go to Kerry's rallies are the ones who are already voting for HIM..." |
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you can laugh at me.while you take a shower. while you have sex or even in my face but just dont take me my right to speak my mind. i understand people die for my rights. i simply can't let some punk run my life. (this isn't towards you mort) |
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about freedom of speech.. well.. freedom of speech is non-existant in america. or.. well.. you may say whatever you want, but society will either ignore or imprison you (I'm not talking literally here.. it's metaphors for what happens to for instance socialists in america (surveillance and exclusion from society. not necessarily performed by any governmental institution or "global conspiracy," but rather people around you). Best example: when Ali G dressed up as the gay german guy was talking to the gun-fanatic in some gun-fair, and he asked about gay people and guns or something and the guy, after defending his right to free speech and his right to have a gun to defend himself, ordered Ali G to go away, 'cause he couldn't talk about homosexuals). anyway, I'm done at work for the day. This discussion may or may not continue tomorrow.. depends on if it has been lost in the black dot. |
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yeah i saw that episode and i understand where u come from. i have people who are close to me that are homosexual's. some in our country at the moment have a warfare mentality. i think it snowballed the instance the US became allies with the only democratic nation in the middle east that being israel. right now about half of the country has a warfare mentality, even homosexuals like the ones I know aren't so concerned with their civil rights, which are bareable at the moment. i agree with you that things need to change give it time. people will change eventually. |
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the media in the US don't do half enough to portray (or, more aptly, prove) bush as [to be] the dipshit that he is. and also you should heed phobiazero's comments - iq tests *don't* mean shit |
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who cares what bush's iq is? he's not the one actually doing the brain-work (or do you honestly believe he is?) he's basically a PR guy - he reads from scripts like an ACTOR. |
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like the government would let you know what their presidents' iqs really are. I mean, if bush had an iq of 45, they wouldnt want the whole world to know.... |
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its not about bush' iq is it its about the guy (s) that pull his strings |
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on a side note, i wonder what cheney's iq is :D |
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And he is wired... |
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hey, what he does in his private life... |
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An IQ test measures your ability to solve that particular test, and not much more. It's foolish to judge anybody on them - you can maybe tell a difference between two people if one regularly scores like 10, 20+ points more than the other on each test, but as others have pointed out, that's still a silly thing to use as a basis for evaluating somebody's usefulness as President. If one scored (less than ten points!) lower, but isn't easily influenced and surrounded half by giant rigid flesh-eating ideologues of doom and half by cartoon supervillains, nor unable to reliably control his temper, nor either completely ignorant of the facts or sitting at the bottom of a large barrel filled with self-deception, then I think he might be the better candidate. And that's only going by potential, without even going into the past four years' record. Completely apart from that: if Bush was clever when he was 22, or even when he was 40 or 50, that doesn't mean much. People can deteriorate, you know. You can't argue that I shouldn't go to the dentist now just because my teeth were perfect ten years ago. And there is plenty of evidence that Bush isn't the man he was ten years ago, or thirty. For example, whether he's completely clean now or not, and I'm not entirely convinced that he is, I'd like to remind you that according to his version of the story he only became so at age 40! It's great and admirable if he really managed to do it (which, again, I doubt), but years of cocaine and hard drinking really can leave permanent damage, psychological and neurological, and I think it's showing. |
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face it, bush jr is a complete cunt.... |
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A relevant article from last week's Observer: "The prophets of doom, whom Cheney exemplifies, are precisely right about the importance of this election. But the momentous decision awaiting Americans is not whether they return to power a President who is uniquely qualified to protect the US against terrorism, as Cheney et al would have us believe. It is whether they re-elect a man who, it is now clear, has become palpably unstable." |
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bush snorted the coke? :) eeeenteresting |
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Bush is a nutter, let him ruin america more and more! whooo! |
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"I mean, if bush had an iq of 45, they wouldnt want the whole world to know...." hahaha |
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he not only snorted the coke, he is an alcoholic. |
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he got arrested for drunk driving in conneticuit i think, he's the only president to have a criminal record he probably got arrest for dui in texas too but unfortunately his file is in daddy's library and not available to the public |
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IQ scores fluctuate throughout life by about 5 points (plus or minus) either way, rendering that Official Intelligence Science Fact totally irrelevant. Not that IQ really means anything anyway. |
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For fuck's sake. |
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have you ether done two different iq tests? i got 130 on one and 115 on another.. its all bollocks. i could've guessed on one and had a bad day on the other. the concept is retarded, and irrelevant to real life at all really |
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have you ever noticed that everyone scores around 115 and 140 on internet Iq quizes? Maybe everyone's lying or maybe people that use internet have Higher IQs than 80% of the population |
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if you read more than one messageboard, or most livejournals, you'd see proof against your second hypothesis. |
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IQ quizzes in general mean shit. Mine comes out between 127 and 140 which supposedly means higher than average intelligence. I think it's safe to say I've proven that's bullshit. |
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Qrter: are you implying that the web is full of liars that would say anything in order to gain some acceptance?!?! :O |
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Who cares about IQ? Surely it is presidential skill, managerial powers, vision, decision making skills, drive, determination, sensibility, emotion and adaptability that make a good president? P.S. The US political system is so strange. Am I the only one who is left completely bemused by the whole campaigning / tv things / lack of policy (other than 'terror') / and jerry springer-esque style of it all? |
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