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Rene Magritte - Surrealism
 

offline elusive from detroit (United States) on 2004-10-12 20:53 [#01361428]
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so i got my painting framed

finally....and boy was it worth the wait.

I fuking love this image so much.



 

offline DiaZoHeXagoN from The city of angels (United States) on 2004-10-12 20:54 [#01361430]
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it messes with me like one of those escher pictures


 

offline qrter from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2004-10-12 20:54 [#01361432]
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shit. I really like Magritte.


 

offline elusive from detroit (United States) on 2004-10-12 20:55 [#01361433]
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:)


 

offline DiaZoHeXagoN from The city of angels (United States) on 2004-10-12 20:55 [#01361434]
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good work definitely quality right there!


 

offline weatheredstoner from same shit babes. (United States) on 2004-10-12 20:56 [#01361435]
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not bad, although I'm more of a Yerka fan...



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offline elusive from detroit (United States) on 2004-10-12 20:57 [#01361436]
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false mirrors is one of my favs,

i like the one too where magritte is like

there is an image of an open window (looking outside) and he
has a painting infront of most of the window

eh, i cant type it


 

offline elusive from detroit (United States) on 2004-10-12 20:57 [#01361437]
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this


 

offline r40f from qrters tea party on 2004-10-12 21:02 [#01361442]
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i'm really into his art. i've got a great coffeetable book
of magritte's work.


 

offline weatheredstoner from same shit babes. (United States) on 2004-10-12 21:38 [#01361453]
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neat!


 

offline elusive from detroit (United States) on 2004-10-13 06:05 [#01361605]
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"i've got a great coffeetable book about coffeetables"

ok, kramer.


 

offline Monoid from one source all things depend on 2004-10-13 06:21 [#01361613]
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This is not a painting


 

offline Dannn_ from United Kingdom on 2004-10-13 09:43 [#01361758]
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Magritte has his moments. This is not one of them.

Too often I think he just does boring visual tricks that
don't actually say anything or look good.


 

offline Mertens from Motor City (United States) on 2004-10-13 09:48 [#01361767]
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My favorite right after MC Esther. Dominion of Night kicks
ass.


 

offline TonyFish from the realm of our dreams on 2004-10-13 10:14 [#01361787]
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I saw many Magrittes last year at an exposition at the Jeu
de Paume in Paris. I'd say my favorites are href="http://cgfa.sunsite.dk/magritte/p-magritte17.htm">
and La Corde Sensible

I think people enjoy Magritte so much regardless of whether
they generally like surrealism because of his skill as a
painter. Even from a pure aesthetic point of view his works
are wonderful.


 

offline TonyFish from the realm of our dreams on 2004-10-13 10:15 [#01361790]
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oh poo. The Empire of Light


 

offline Mertens from Motor City (United States) on 2004-10-13 10:23 [#01361802]
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YES THATS THE ONE!


 

offline TonyFish from the realm of our dreams on 2004-10-13 10:25 [#01361803]
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:) It's hanging on my wall in movie poster format :)


 

offline elusive from detroit (United States) on 2004-10-13 10:34 [#01361812]
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Dannn_,

Magritte stated that his paintings AREN'T supposed to "say
anything"

... :)


 

offline Dannn_ from United Kingdom on 2004-10-13 12:04 [#01361907]
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That's what surrealists are supposed to say. Surrealism is
supposed to evoke something but the artist isn't necesserily
supposed to intend it to. I'm not suggesting he couldn't
make a point with his paintings because he's shit, but that
painting in particular doesn't interest me because all I see
is a clever technique and the overall image isn't that
interesting. A lot of his work is much more impressive and I
really love a few (Liberator, The Treachery Of Images ),
they hold a kind of mysterious hypnotic calm, and The Lovers
II really scares the shit out of me. Paintings like The
Empire Of Light are great but they don't really leave me
with anything. The same goes for Escher, paintings like this
are popular because you don't have to do anything to enjoy
it, but I find them unsatisfying.


 

offline qrter from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2004-10-13 12:35 [#01361932]
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that's one of my favourites.

I love this one too, although the other one with the rock is
even better:


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offline qrter from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2004-10-13 12:39 [#01361937]
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I really wouldn't equate Escher with Magritte.

Magritte only uses tricks in a part of his paintings, while
Escher's work consists only of tricks. Escher is more a good
graphic designer than an artist.

I don't agree with the idea that you don't have to "work"
when watching a Magritte painting. when I see something like
the one above, I don't just look and think "a big rose in a
room", a whole train of thought follows.

it is (overall) the simplicity of his images, the directness
which evokes a lot of reaction from me. I don't like Dali
(to name someone) for that reason - there's too much going
on, his work is too muddled for me. Dali looks forced to me,
while Magritte seems more organic.


 

offline Mertens from Motor City (United States) on 2004-10-13 12:44 [#01361947]
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Maybe you do not find MC Escher’s prints intellectually
challenging and that's fine. However, love his work
precisely because his ideas are perfect analogies of the
subjects he studied. Just look at his prints on Paradox (Boy
in Print Shop) or Infinity (Angels and Devils on Sphere) and
try to think of a better way of representing those ideas. If
you could do better, let me know and I'll gladly buy it!


 

offline Mertens from Motor City (United States) on 2004-10-13 12:46 [#01361948]
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your image is blank.


 

offline qrter from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2004-10-13 12:54 [#01361951]
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no it isn't.


 

offline Mertens from Motor City (United States) on 2004-10-13 12:55 [#01361952]
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Care to give a little more explanation?


 

offline qrter from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2004-10-13 13:01 [#01361956]
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the image isn't blank, it's right there.


 

offline deepspace9mm from filth on 2004-10-13 13:09 [#01361966]
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I've never been a fan of magritte. I don't like his handling
of the paint for some reason... looks very dry and washed
out. I guess he's one of the more interesting true
surrealists on a conceptual level, but still, never did much
for me. He seems a bit "hypothetical", not very visceral.

Oh yeah, and i'm a fully paid-up member of the I Fucking
Hate Salvador Dali Club. Just thought i'd share that.


 

offline Raz0rBlade_uk on 2004-10-13 13:29 [#01361980]
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i'm a lover of surrealism and I am fond of that painting by
magritte. a good choice i must say. It was wonderful when I
went to the Tate and actually saw a real life magritte (man
with a newspaper is the one that stands out in my memory).


 

offline qrter from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2004-10-13 13:31 [#01361983]
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I'll sign up for that club. platinum membership, please.


 

offline elusive from detroit (United States) on 2004-10-13 13:41 [#01361997]
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im with qrter on this one.

i love the paiting i posted .... you'd be surprised how many
people ive shown it to have just overlookd it.

then they go, wait, what the hell??
and then look a little deeper into it.

art is subjective, but when i first saw this (photo, online)
i was just instantly drawn to it's abstract simplicity.
love at first sight


 

offline elusive from detroit (United States) on 2004-10-13 13:42 [#01361998]
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Oh, and how can you hate art?
Jeezous, you either care for it or you don't

how do you actually arous HATRED from a piece of "art", or
music for that matter

bleh


 

offline Mertens from Motor City (United States) on 2004-10-13 13:55 [#01362005]
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Perhaps hatred for the person which spills onto their art.
From what I hear, Dali was a real cock.


 

offline r40f from qrters tea party on 2004-10-13 14:14 [#01362028]
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as a surrealist and a huge fan of surrealism, this thread
makes me sad. but you're all entitled to your own opinions.
i don't care to argue with them.


 

offline Mertens from Motor City (United States) on 2004-10-13 14:16 [#01362030]
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Don't leave us in the dark. Share your thoughts friend.


 

offline r40f from qrters tea party on 2004-10-13 14:27 [#01362042]
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the work of dali and magritte has been a huge influence on
me and i find their art powerful and moving on many levels.
i guess the rest is up to everyone's personal taste, because
we could debate all day about whether their art is good or
what motivated them, etc.

and i think in general it's important to separate artists
from their art. it's cool to learn about the artists, but
you're missing out if you let their personal flaws take away
from the great artwork they have created. i don't like the
facism the futurists stood for, but their impact and legacy
is undeniably important.


 

offline zaphod from the metaverse on 2004-10-13 14:41 [#01362048]
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escher is really a great visual mathematician, and, like
mertens says, his works are perfect visualizations of
sometimes very abstract mathematical and scientific
concepts.


 

offline zaphod from the metaverse on 2004-10-13 14:43 [#01362050]
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surrealism really only works for me when its incorporated
into media. dali doesn't interest me because its pure
surrealism and there isn't really anything there, its just
some visuals, not really technically that interesting (to my
eye).


 

offline r40f from qrters tea party on 2004-10-13 14:49 [#01362052]
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"its pure surrealism and there isn't really anything there,
its just some visuals"

i don't know what this is supposed to mean. surrealism
relates to dreams, symbolic imagery, the subconcious, etc.
surrealism isn't an asthetic, it is an art movement that
encompasses all mediums (painting, poetry, sculpture, etc).
the fact is that there is more to it than just visuals.


 

offline dequalsrxt from Los Angeles (United States) on 2004-10-13 14:55 [#01362056]
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the term "surrealism" gets tossed around pretty freely
nowadays, but it doesn't really mean what it used to.
surrealism was a very specific political and aesthetic
movement that happened early in this century. i wouldn't
call escher a "surrealist" for example...his images are
dreamlike, but just that. surrealism encompasses more than
that, i think.

i would say jan svankmajer ranks pretty highly among my
favorite artists though. a true surrealist. his last movie
was great...little otik...anyone see it?


 

offline zaphod from the metaverse on 2004-10-13 15:00 [#01362066]
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i'm talking about surrealism that is simply visuals. i know
what surrealism is, i'm actually an art major, i'm just not
interested in it as art. i like when the ideas behind the
movement are incorporated into other mediums (music, movies,
etc).


 

offline 010101 from Vancouver (Canada) on 2004-10-13 16:33 [#01362154]
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Merrit Oppenhiem is my favorite from this period.

She was a true genius


 

offline deepspace9mm from filth on 2004-10-13 18:21 [#01362274]
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I sense the samfactory. My spidey sense is tingling.


 

offline Dannn_ from United Kingdom on 2004-10-13 20:06 [#01362442]
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Don't get me wrong, I don't equate Magritte with Escher. And
I think Magritte has some real masterpieces. The horserider
in the trees image is just one that really winds me up, I
really don't care for the 'double-take' effect as a reason
to like it, and the visual trickery of it doesn't seem to
work on me at all. And that particular painting has nothing
going for it apart from the trick. The Tombeau Lutear or
whatever its called is a really good painting.

I'm a really huge Dali fan as it happens, I think the man
was a total cunt but he's still fascinatingly odd.


 

offline elusive from detroit (United States) on 2004-10-13 20:53 [#01362476]
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Respect your opinion :)



 

offline elusive from detroit (United States) on 2004-10-13 20:53 [#01362477]
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edit: i can respect YOUR opinion.


 


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