|
|
ecnadniarb
on 2004-10-07 15:58 [#01355958]
Points: 24805 Status: Lurker | Show recordbag
|
|
Binary.
|
|
horsefactory
from 💠 (United Kingdom) on 2004-10-07 16:00 [#01355960]
Points: 14867 Status: Regular
|
|
then yes.
|
|
mappatazee
from ¨y¨z¨| (Burkina Faso) on 2004-10-07 16:00 [#01355961]
Points: 14294 Status: Lurker
|
|
Unless it's base 1! then it doesn't exist!
|
|
ecnadniarb
on 2004-10-07 16:04 [#01355963]
Points: 24805 Status: Lurker | Show recordbag
|
|
base 1 can't be binary you fool. but base 1 can represent the number 0, which it could be argued doesn't exist, but in another more accurate way does.
|
|
mappatazee
from ¨y¨z¨| (Burkina Faso) on 2004-10-07 16:12 [#01355969]
Points: 14294 Status: Lurker | Followup to ecnadniarb: #01355963
|
|
can't?
|
|
ecnadniarb
on 2004-10-07 16:15 [#01355972]
Points: 24805 Status: Lurker | Show recordbag
|
|
CAN'T. Charles Babbage sent me a letter Ada Lovelace sent him which informed me that, whilst she loved the way he tongued her bean, there was no way she could agree with him that binary could be anything more or less than a numbering system based on nothing more than the values of 0 and 1 in a base 2 stylee.
|
|
sneakattack
on 2004-10-07 16:22 [#01355984]
Points: 6049 Status: Lurker | Followup to ecnadniarb: #01355963
|
|
0 is the additive identity!! Were it not to exist, everything would be ruined!!!!!!
hey check out the ruby language sometime. If you're considering php, I'm considering punching you.
|
|
virginpusher
from County Clare on 2004-10-07 16:22 [#01355985]
Points: 27325 Status: Lurker
|
|
LEE LEE LEE LEE LEELEELEE i'm talkin fuckin lee!
|
|
ecnadniarb
on 2004-10-07 16:24 [#01355987]
Points: 24805 Status: Lurker | Show recordbag
|
|
you will hate me a lot more than if the last statement was true, www.omg.NET see sharp. but not decided completely.
|
|
sneakattack
on 2004-10-07 16:27 [#01355989]
Points: 6049 Status: Lurker | Followup to ecnadniarb: #01355987
|
|
I won't because I haven't looked over the language--no formal opinion yet. I saw some code written in it and felt sorry because it looked identical to java (including nuance).
You can write anything in any language, so in the end it just comes down to convenience and execution speed. If you've got these both in sea-shell or whatever that fancy crap you use is, then hell yeah!
I saw a list of additions for 2.0 and my interest is piqued, so I'll take a look sometime.
It's not really an excellent choice on linux (yes there's mono blah blah), so I haven't really looked into it.. and of course there's that I-just-got-raped feeling with all microsoft stuff, whatever.
^^^^ logorrhea
|
|
ecnadniarb
on 2004-10-07 16:31 [#01355994]
Points: 24805 Status: Lurker | Show recordbag
|
|
I find the Linux is free blah blah blah Microsft is shit because they make so much money blah blah blah arguements, when most of the motherfuckers have a ton of cracked Microsoft software on their own home computers and have never paid for an MS product in their life.
I quite like programming in C#. When I start working again I am going to be focusing on B2B web services because I already have at least one prospective client lined up worth quite a good bit of money, so the more practise I get the better :)
|
|
sneakattack
on 2004-10-07 16:36 [#01355997]
Points: 6049 Status: Lurker | Followup to ecnadniarb: #01355994
|
|
The first 10 linux people I met at my uber-elite blah CS school were total tools, and didn't know their shit either. I abhor microsoft vs. anything arguments in general, but specifically this language one is poignant because I know of some rather powerful minds which were hired to construct java, and then MS just took all their work and called it .NET. Maybe they're doing it better, maybe the next version is unrelated, but I'm just saying the initial step was a little weird, very lazy, manipulative, and not a little stupid.
But I _will_ look at it some time. I've become a real language asshole, so..
good luck on that job when it happens! I have a low paying but mentally rewarding research job lined up for next semester..
|
|
giginger
from Milky Beans (United Kingdom) on 2004-10-07 16:41 [#01356005]
Points: 26326 Status: Lurker | Show recordbag
|
|
BINARY-ME-DO!
|
|
qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2004-10-07 16:51 [#01356034]
Points: 47414 Status: Moderator
|
|
if anyone wants me, I'll be in the binary.
|
|
ecnadniarb
on 2004-10-07 16:55 [#01356042]
Points: 24805 Status: Lurker | Followup to qrter: #01356034 | Show recordbag
|
|
hahahahaha qrter made me giggle with glee at a geek joke. great.
|
|
qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2004-10-07 16:56 [#01356044]
Points: 47414 Status: Moderator | Followup to ecnadniarb: #01356042
|
|
oops.
|
|
elusive
from detroit (United States) on 2004-10-07 17:18 [#01356133]
Points: 18368 Status: Lurker | Show recordbag
|
|
debian, anyone?
i prefer somegood ol' hp-ux
but eh,
how did microsoft take java's work and turn itinto .NET?
|
|
elusive
from detroit (United States) on 2004-10-07 17:19 [#01356136]
Points: 18368 Status: Lurker | Show recordbag
|
|
each OS has it's place....i probably wouldn't be working or remotely in IT right now if it wasn't for windows and the big "push" but on the otherhand they are ruthless cuntrags...money can't get you everything and they are slowly learning that.
...hopefully my government will too (soon)
|
|
giginger
from Milky Beans (United Kingdom) on 2004-10-07 17:19 [#01356139]
Points: 26326 Status: Lurker | Show recordbag
|
|
OH CHRIST!!
|
|
elusive
from detroit (United States) on 2004-10-07 17:19 [#01356141]
Points: 18368 Status: Lurker | Show recordbag
|
|
ecnad, what do you specialize in, web applications?
|
|
sneakattack
on 2004-10-07 17:21 [#01356146]
Points: 6049 Status: Lurker | Followup to elusive: #01356133
|
|
Just look at java, then look at C#/.NET.
I've used debian for about 5 years, linux for ~10
|
|
elusive
from detroit (United States) on 2004-10-07 17:21 [#01356148]
Points: 18368 Status: Lurker | Show recordbag
|
|
sneak, you know the main purpose of .NET is to bring together all languages, right? It works pretty well ... but man talk about a blind jump into it.....M$ killed the marketing on .NET; totally fuked it up but hey ... not that i really want it to excel or anything,kek
|
|
elusive
from detroit (United States) on 2004-10-07 17:22 [#01356150]
Points: 18368 Status: Lurker | Show recordbag
|
|
im not heavy into java or programming (hate it, really).
so im trying to have you explain it to me here.
|
|
ecnadniarb
on 2004-10-07 17:22 [#01356154]
Points: 24805 Status: Lurker | Followup to elusive: #01356141 | Show recordbag
|
|
Not really, I have been more involved in system migration over the past couple of years, but before I took my break I was involved with network based application development, and fancy working in that direction.
|
|
elusive
from detroit (United States) on 2004-10-07 17:23 [#01356156]
Points: 18368 Status: Lurker | Show recordbag
|
|
fuck, im GLAD i don't do programming ... some ppl i know are like ... robots or code monkeys, not my thing at all.
|
|
elusive
from detroit (United States) on 2004-10-07 17:23 [#01356160]
Points: 18368 Status: Lurker | Show recordbag
|
|
sounds good, any details?
|
|
elusive
from detroit (United States) on 2004-10-07 17:24 [#01356161]
Points: 18368 Status: Lurker | Show recordbag
|
|
im patiently waiting the 40gb int. modules :drool:
|
|
sneakattack
on 2004-10-07 17:27 [#01356172]
Points: 6049 Status: Lurker | Followup to elusive: #01356148
|
|
Letting languages interoperate more easily is definitely cool. If you want to see a similar push with unix scripting languages, take a look at parrot (not just scripting languages even--had a C compilation engine last I checked).
Most languages have easy ways to make calls from other languages though, and usually you wrap the calls to match the current languages paradigms, so just allowing the calls isn't really enough..
I love programming. I had to learn java recently for some classes, and won't really use it for any of my own stuff, and initially was miffed by lots of things, but I do respect a lot of the careful design that went into it. It's a very safe language, whereas my mentality is "here's a length of rope. It's up to you whether you hang yourself or bind something".
logorrhea is my new nickname.
|
|
sneakattack
on 2004-10-07 17:28 [#01356176]
Points: 6049 Status: Lurker | Followup to elusive: #01356156
|
|
Careful, each profession has its share of shit jobs. Computer science research/theory is ace.
|
|
elusive
from detroit (United States) on 2004-10-07 17:30 [#01356183]
Points: 18368 Status: Lurker | Show recordbag
|
|
I'm almost done with computer engineering/electrical engineering degree, and do global network eng. right now and look forward to ASIC design hopefully within 5years.
That's my goal. Hopefully I can stick to it.
Programming, meh ... I suck at it (no real motivation for it) dunno why? Glad I found out I don't like it early on, though.
Everyone's using java now. Most/all of my cisco/nortel apps are all java based.. hp open view also
|
|
ecnadniarb
on 2004-10-07 17:33 [#01356189]
Points: 24805 Status: Lurker | Show recordbag
|
|
The shit I was working on is all Java now, it was a big project migrating about 2000000 accounts from an old OpenVMS VAX system across to Sun Starcat servers and having the old and new systems running in parallel for 2 years. I don't like computers though.
|
|
elusive
from detroit (United States) on 2004-10-07 17:34 [#01356194]
Points: 18368 Status: Lurker | Show recordbag
|
|
not after that clusterfuck, i bet.
|
|
Messageboard index
|