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x0hx
from Lysdexia (United States) on 2004-09-21 23:55 [#01341926]
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Who got the collection? Hands, please. I want it, just $40 seems pretty good. And they even added *more* stuff on top of the re-issued stuff in the movies. Great.
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zaphod
from the metaverse on 2004-09-21 23:56 [#01341928]
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i bought it, i'm a sucker. lucas can fuck off, i just wanted empire strikes back.
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zaphod
from the metaverse on 2004-09-21 23:57 [#01341929]
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the cooler thing out today is the shawshank redemption special edition dvd. now that is worth buying.
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x0hx
from Lysdexia (United States) on 2004-09-21 23:59 [#01341931]
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heh. What 'bout THX-11380980580850495.69? I've never even seen it. Heard the re-issue is better b/c it has a revamped sntrk. I'll buckle down out of boredom someday and rent it just to say I saw it.
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zaphod
from the metaverse on 2004-09-22 00:01 [#01341934]
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that movie is pretty boring, but well done in a pretentious low budget sci fi kind of way. i'm sure people here will tell you its brilliant though.
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IronLung
from the 91fwy in soCAL (United States) on 2004-09-22 00:20 [#01341938]
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changes made
heres some little differences for the new DVD's. Greedo STILL SHOOTS FIRST...WEAK!!!
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aquagak
from Berlin (Germany) on 2004-09-22 00:51 [#01341945]
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im going to wait untill may 2005 when all 6 are released
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giginger
from Milky Beans (United Kingdom) on 2004-09-22 02:17 [#01341976]
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HAN SOLO SHOULD ALWAYS SHOOT FIRST. ASK LEIA!
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pOgO
from behind your belly button fluff on 2004-09-22 02:21 [#01341979]
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Cheap!
and 3 quid off if you use the code - XX-99GN
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2004-09-22 04:08 [#01342035]
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.."not yet available"..?
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pOgO
from behind your belly button fluff on 2004-09-22 04:19 [#01342039]
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they lie
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epohs
from )C: on 2004-09-22 06:45 [#01342086]
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the final nail in the coffin for lucas was that he switched in hayden christensen for the old dude who played vader.
i mean wtf, there is absolutely no way that's the way he'd originally intended the films to be. if you hadn't seen the prequels when you see RotJ you'd never know who the fucking kid was.
lucas is an egomaniac who keeps picking at the little scab until it becomes a festering infection.
i'm less interested to see episode III than i am dumber and dumberer part deux.
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epohs
from )C: on 2004-09-22 06:46 [#01342088]
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the final nail in the coffin for lucas was that he switched in hayden christensen for the old dude who played vader in the ghost scene at the end of return of the jedi (which was already pretty fucking lame to begin with).
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bogala
from NYC (United States) on 2004-09-22 08:12 [#01342152]
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I enjoy thx. Can't wait for it. Love the old star wars, too. Hate the new ones. Bye
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big
from lsg on 2004-09-22 08:17 [#01342155]
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you star wars fuks!
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Dannn_
from United Kingdom on 2004-09-22 08:41 [#01342185]
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Yeah I don't think I can be bothered with this, the changes he made are not really necessary and I'm not a picture or sound quality nerd so I'll stick with the vwideos.
By the way epohs, Ian Shaw as Anakin in the ghost scene, how were you supposed to know who he was anyway? I don't think you'd seen him before apart from when hes all fcuked up and he hardly looked the same anyway. It's just obvious who he was, who else could it be? Removing his eyebrows when his helmet came off is probably a good move so he looks less human.
The only thing I ever thought needed fixing was some of the blue screen shit on Jabba's pirate boat thing at the start of Return Of The Jedi ( I think) and some of Yoda's mouth movement, particularly on his death scene.
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epohs
from )C: on 2004-09-22 08:49 [#01342203]
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i think you could recognize him from the removing of the helmet scene... but, whatever. it's lame to throw in a character who's not even been introduced yet.
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giginger
from Milky Beans (United Kingdom) on 2004-09-22 09:07 [#01342237]
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Lucas has gone on record as saying:
Films are never finished only abandoned.
Fucking twat.
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beanium
from United States on 2004-09-22 09:27 [#01342273]
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"The blaster fight between Han and Greedo has also been revised slightly. In the 1997 version on the left, Greedo's shot has hit the wall, while Han hasn't fired yet. In the new 2004 edition, Han fires much sooner, so that the shots are much closer together. Also, Han's whole upper body shifts over slightly in reaction to Greedo's shot rather than just his head."
At least that's a slight improvement. The scene makes a bit more sense now.
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2004-09-22 09:27 [#01342274]
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to be more precise:
"AP: Why did you rework the original trilogy into the special-edition versions in the late 1990s?
Lucas: To me, the special edition ones are the films I wanted to make. Anybody that makes films knows the film is never finished. It's abandoned or it's ripped out of your hands, and it's thrown into the marketplace, never finished. It's a very rare experience where you find a filmmaker who says, "That's exactly what I wanted. I got everything I needed. I made it just perfect. I'm going to put it out there." And even most artists, most painters, even composers would want to come back and redo their work now. They've got a new perspective on it, they've got more resources, they have better technology, and they can fix or finish the things that were never done. ... I wanted to actually finish the film the way it was meant to be when I was originally doing it. At the beginning, people went, "Don't you like it?" I said, "Well, the film only came out to be 25 or 30 percent of what I wanted it to be." They said, "What are you talking about?" So finally, I stopped saying that, b! ut if you read any interviews for about an eight- or nine-year period there, it was all about how disappointed I was and how unhappy I was and what a dismal experience it was. You know, it's too bad you need to get kind of half a job done and never get to finish it. So this was my chance to finish it."
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2004-09-22 09:29 [#01342277]
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and..
"AP: Why not release both the originals and special editions on DVD?
Lucas: The special edition, that's the one I wanted out there. The other movie, it's on VHS, if anybody wants it. ... I'm not going to spend the, we're talking millions of dollars here, the money and the time to refurbish that, because to me, it doesn't really exist anymore. It's like this is the movie I wanted it to be, and I'm sorry you saw half a completed film and fell in love with it. But I want it to be the way I want it to be. I'm the one who has to take responsibility for it. I'm the one who has to have everybody throw rocks at me all the time, so at least if they're going to throw rocks at me, they're going to throw rocks at me for something I love rather than something I think is not very good, or at least something I think is not finished."
both from here.
I love this bit: "..I'm not going to spend the, we're talking millions of dollars here, the money and the time to refurbish that..".. yeah, George, you really care about spending a lot of money, especially on something that you will sell an absolute shitload of.
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epohs
from )C: on 2004-09-22 09:31 [#01342282]
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i'd like to erase the memory of episodes I and II.
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pantalaimon
from Winterfell (United Kingdom) on 2004-09-22 10:18 [#01342310]
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thanks for that link, I woundn't have bought the DVD had he not made some of these changes, seems a lot better than the ones relased at the cinema 10 or so years ago... still, I would have liked the 'originals' included.
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recycle
from Where is Phobiazero (Lincoln) (United States) on 2004-09-22 11:23 [#01342363]
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im not getting it after all i already have those 3 films on cassette, the only thing i would like to see is the xtra bonus disk, but im not going to pay $34-$40 for it, ill find a way to see it, i think my 12 year old cousin is getting it
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fungusman
from Monster Island on 2004-09-22 12:43 [#01342503]
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You all need to shut the fuck up. My empire tape is soooooo run down from so many watchs it sick. There is all this white noise type stuff on the bottem of the screen and the sound track is all fuzzy now.
Its about time these came out on DVD!
Hope fully they fixed the Rancor. I remember when the special edition came out the Rancor still looked really really bad, like the blue screen was awful.
And it's so cool to hate ep1 and 2. When king nerd doesnt like something the rest just regurgitate what he didnt like about it. Thats the only reason why people think the first two suck, they just are going with what all the other nerds are saying.
SHEEP!
Episode 2 fucking rocks and Ep one is great too!
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warh0l
from <----- on 2004-09-22 12:46 [#01342508]
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"ive found them, repeat... i've found them"
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epohs
from )C: on 2004-09-22 12:58 [#01342516]
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dude, i don't mean to be rude or anything, but by every single criteria i use to judge the quality of a movie episodes one and two sucked horribly.
the pacing, character development, depth of the plot, uniqueness, everything was mediocre at best, and a miserable embarassing failure if you're being honest with yourself.
the only reedeming factor was that he was pushing the boundaries of digital film making, but they didn't even look that good... I mean, the scale of the digital effects were nice, but hardly mindblowing execution.
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epohs
from )C: on 2004-09-22 12:59 [#01342518]
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* this is of course, IMHO... but, i tried really hard to like episode I when it came out. honestly i did.
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Ophecks
from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2004-09-22 14:26 [#01342569]
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''the final nail in the coffin for lucas was that he switchedin hayden christensen for the old dude who played vader in the ghost scene at the end of return of the jedi (which was already pretty fucking lame to begin with).''
Oh my God.
I remember when the updated versions came out in '97, I had them on tape... the computer animation was pretty jarring, and not in a good way. But it wasn't THAT drastic, it was mostly just window dressing.
But wow.
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fungusman
from Monster Island on 2004-09-22 14:28 [#01342574]
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Grievous is going to is going to rock.
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2004-09-22 14:30 [#01342577]
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you are exactly right, mr. Shope.
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epohs
from )C: on 2004-09-22 14:31 [#01342580]
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i've also heard rumors that lucas changed the dialog, so that now palpatine tells vader that he is lukes father.
i mean, what the fucking fuck!.. if that's true i think georgey porgey is officially ready for the looney bin.
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2004-09-22 14:35 [#01342589]
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if only Gary Oldman hadn't pulled hadn't pulled out.
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hyakusen
from 8=============> on 2004-09-22 14:50 [#01342611]
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another special edition of the same old film for ppl that waht to spend another $ for another dvd on the shelf marked as "star wars series" . number 4775757766 of the edition, and im allways amazed by the power of marketing.
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