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The government suppresses drugs because drugs enlighten people. Otherwise hallucinogens which arent addictive nor deadly, would not be illegal. LSD, which was the basis for most of the counter culture movement of the 60s, was a HUGE threat to people in power. Not only did it enlighten people and make them tend to forget about being productive worker bees, it made them start questioning the whole idea of letting a particular class of people rule the world "just because" So if we legalize GUNS, why dont we legalize drugs, huh !? |
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actually you take a LEFT at the first set of lights, then a right. let me know how you make out. |
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drugs do exactly the opposite, they keep the masses in check |
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i can do this to: The recent explosion in these numbers precisely parallels the increased use in narcotics and the accompanying proliferation of drug-related violence - a fact conveniently ignored by politicians who would rather see the blame pinned on the victims of the policies that have caused the problem in the first place. While intoning "Just Say No [to drugs]," President Reagan slashed spending for social programmes, aid to the inner cities and other policies which would have improved conditions for the nation's poorest. Under Reagan and Bush, 70% of the federal drug budget was aimed at law enforcement while only 30% was focused on education, prevention and treatment. Under Clinton, two thirds of the budget was still focused on law enforcement. |
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fools |
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Remember Iran Contra ? What the fuck was that all about |
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stools |
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pro-choice, legal or illegal, as long as no harm is done to others. |
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Drugs are thought for tools |
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the harm is giving the choice |
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new aphex twin album out in october |
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no |
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cant wait |
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drugs are stupid... |
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perhaps you'd like to extend your ill conceived opinion to other areas of life and see how far you get in you utopian anarchy. |
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why should the gov't be able to control what i do to/with myself as long as it has no effect on others? |
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it pretty much always has an effect on others. |
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nice avatar zaphod |
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but there are already laws to deal with that... if you're referring to driving while intoxicated, child neglegt, or theft. however, there are plenty of drug users who do not drive while intoxicated, neglect their children, or steal. why should they be made criminals? |
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Drugs can help you maintain the delusion that your lazy, navel gazing, self absorbed, selfish, wasteful lifestyle is some sort of "political act" |
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I have never ever had a bright thought when high. Only stupid people feel enlightenment when high cause they are one dimensional in real life and unable to see anything from a different angle. |
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i hate when people tell me i'll be more creative when high. that is so much bullshit. it just dulls your mind. |
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i think by creative they meant hungry |
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probably |
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i agree but, what if there were a drug that heightens your awareness and actually increases your mental capacities, would you do it? |
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i agree with corrupted girl. the rationale isn't anarchistic. if we decriminalise drugs and set up more social programs to help the people on them get treatment, these addicts won't have to go around to drug dealers and rob liquor stores to get their next fix. so you would be eliminating the criminal element of drukqs tremendously. |
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last time i checked suicide was against the law. |
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people don't need to be controlled, babied or lied to. we need to be educated, free of expression and feel self-worth. if we had that, there'd be no need for self-destructive behavior, such as allowing an addiction to drugs, alcohol, cigs, food, sex, TV etc. drugs aren't the issue, they are simply symptoms of the true problems. |
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we focus too much on the aftermath instead of prevention and decresing the causes. |
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even in a perfect society people would still have problems, there are no easy answers. |
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i'm not saying drugs are beneficial to one's health whatsoever. it's just a question of how you look at the problem. surely you realize the so-called war on drugs failed from the start and has been a huge waste of money and lives? this is an alternative solution that has been proposed by many others. it gives sick people medical help. how can you argue with that? |
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well said! |
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there ARE easy answers. the problem is the easy answers don't seem to benefit the big man's pockets. of course there will always be problems.. but most of them can easily be diminished. this isn't an all or nothing situation. even a happy medium would be better then how things are now. |
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programs like this will always be around, because there is money to be made in them, what i am saying is, if you legalize drugs, it will destroy people, it will help the addiscts, yes i agree with this, but it will allow people to use drugs in a recreational way, with is very bad. |
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you are assuming that more people will use drugs if they were decriminalised, but studies (that were presented to me by a hard-line republican) have shown that there would not be a significant increase. |
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i think that if you legalize anything, you are opening it up for mass usage, look at alcohol, it is the deadliest drug because it is legal. the usage might not spike, but the people who choose to use it, are screwed because there is unlimited access to it. look at alcohol cigaretts cafeine |
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trying to control people's choices, which these choices are highly based on what you taught them and the kind of country you made for them, will only feed the problems. if you want to change the way things are going because it's negative and destroying a huge part of people and their contentment, then you have to go to the root of the problem. it's like letting your child sit infront of the TV for hours because you're too lazy of a parent to do something beneficial with him... then you get mad and punish your child for pretending to shoot his baby sister with his toy gun just like how he saw on Cops or something. |
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there is a point where you need to be protected from addiction. once you are addicted to a substance, it starts to own you. you because a different person. |
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i totally agree that too much emphasis is placed on the addict as a criminal, i just think that the addict will always be addicted to the substance, and having certain substance illegal, keeps some people from using the most dangerous drugs. i agree with what you guys are saying, just you cannot legalize drugs, its too dangerous for the people using the drugs. |
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yup, you kinda know there's something wrong when all three of those substances are legal and highly used among most of the population and causes many deaths and accidents.. but yet you over-crowd your prisons with weed users/dealers or other users/dealers that are of less or equally harmful as the legal substances. oh and don't forget the thousand of children as young as 3 who are on methamphetamines or similar substances prescibed by their friendly doctors. and you're worried about some grass or some kids tripping on shrooms with their friends on weekends? |
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if the government were to take a fraction of what they pay to fight the failed war on drugs and use it for education, rehabilitation, perhaps drug-awareness programs, you would see way fewer people on drugs. again, drug use is indeed one element of a larger social problem. there are many changes that could be made that would help eliminate the climate for more drug use. but people in general are not waiting for drugs to become legalized to do them. that's a misconception. in fact, many kids start taking them because they're illegal (to rebel). we had prohibition in the 30's - did that stop alcohol? no, it created the mafia. |
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at least the meth heads and coke dealers have a choice and aren't raised on it. i don't think drugs, alcohol or cigs should be legal. but i do think they should be de-criminalized. it's a waste of tax payers money to be keeping thousands of weed dealers in these over-crowded prisons.. that money can go to far better causes.. such as education? what about special programs to help kids with these so called "ADD/ADHD" issues? maybe that way we wouldn't have to put them on uppers when they get excited and hyper.. because god forbid children get excited and hyper! |
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i havent said anything about which drugs, take weed for example, ok say its made legal, scenerio: so now its legal, you can basically get it any CVS i go in and they this new high quality stuff, i buy it and wow, i am really f'ing high, and look i can smoke it without worrying about being arrest, basically i am only harming myself. by the time i am older, i am such a stoner i cant hold down a job, i spend all of my money on legal weed, and the quality so high that i cant function in society when i am stoned i am not a criminal but i am a waste of a human, my life is controlled by weed. |
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i am done on this subject, i agree with what you guys are saying and the us's drug policies suck ass, but drugs are a big issue not just for the us, but for humans in general, the us is just one way to cope with it, its the absolute wrong way, but its a way nonetheless. |
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"just you cannot legalize drugs, its too dangerous for the people using the drugs." that shouldn't be your choice to make. I think rock climbing is too dangerous, but i don't expect anyone to make it illegal. |
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so is driving a car, but these drugs are substances you put in your body, if i put myself in danger, in a sober state of mind i am taking control of my actions, but you lose that control when drugs are involved. |
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rock climbing should be illegal though, i mean look at what passes for in their circles. |
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loose control and do what? there are laws that govern every single concievable action that one could do while under the influence. why not simply inforce those laws instead of creating new laws that punish even the non-criminal drug users. just because one psycho reads catcher in the rye and assasinates a president doesn't mean that the book should be outlawed. quite a few people have read the book, and i'm pretty sure not all of them turned into murderous nutbags. |
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two points: decriminalization and legalization are two different things. decriminalization is not in any way synonomous with encouraging drug use. |
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