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_awt_
from Malmö (Sweden) on 2004-08-27 06:04 [#01315649]
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Hey.. last year of school starting for me now after allot of problems choosing classes to take and what to do in school more then the basics.
well, my mentor teatcher simply ended the whole debate thingy by asking me a simple question, what do you like to do ? and offcourse i answered Make music (expecting her to say something like, electronic music is for your spare time)
but she answered me with an, then you will make music, so now i can manage to get the points i need before ending school by doing stuff that i love, i have allready taken studio tech classes and some basic music classes but now i will also make music for a play/theatre thing that will be showed for several different schools, news papers and just common folks in the begining of next year.
This got me pretty darn exited, just for the fact that my music will be played on the big "town theatre" infront of allot of people..
so now i have started thinking of what to do, i usually make drum n bass and sutch things with a wilder toutch, but now i want to make music that suites this play, i want to make music that goes hand in hand with the emotions of the actors and the different scenes but with a toutch of my own personal music, i have considered classical concept with some modern programming and experimental noise stuff, no not gabber noise stuff. more emotional noise mixed with beutiful string (distorted sometimes maybe) string melodies.
im not sure about this, i would like and appreciate any advices on how to make this as good as possible, im pretty open minded about it, keep in mind though that it's a play not a musical so my music will be running slow in the background as well as having louder parts with a purpose to help the audience feel what the actors are feeling in the different scenes.
i need to think of a good way to sync and mix everything aswell... ideas are welcommed.
the play is about rape victims and rapists, it will probably be pretty intense (the last play they made where very intense)
help/ideas are wellc
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weatheredstoner
from same shit babes. (United States) on 2004-08-27 08:50 [#01315732]
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wow, this is a great opportunity for you. As a fellow final fantasy fan, I suggest lots of "traditional" orchestra sounds mixed with some more experimental elements. Also try showing up for every rehersal with your laptop (if you have one) to accurately see what each scene is about and what is going on in general. I think the hardest part will actually be synching the music up to whats going on the stage.
Since its about rape/victims (and not some mushy/feelgood/happy play) I would say this allows you to use some more 'grittier' sounds and get away with it. For this I refer to the Funckarma song "Lolala" (should be easy to find on soulseek), its got traditional sounds (drums,piano,etc) combined with some experimental gritty sounds struggling to get free in the left/right stereo channels.
If I can think of anything else, i'll let you know.
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Anus_Presley
on 2004-08-27 08:57 [#01315735]
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that's verry nice forr you. a grreat life you lead. but keep it to yourrself forr i don't carre.
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Anus_Presley
on 2004-08-27 08:57 [#01315736]
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i'm only joking!!! orr something.
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elusive
from detroit (United States) on 2004-08-27 09:06 [#01315738]
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Nice score.
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elusive
from detroit (United States) on 2004-08-27 09:07 [#01315739]
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no pun intended!
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_awt_
from Malmö (Sweden) on 2004-08-27 09:48 [#01315757]
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yeahh traditional ill go for im quite sure now, i aint got no laptop yet... but i will still show up on the "practise" for the play and ill be talking with the other students about the different scenes and what they think i should put in the different parts. This doesnt mean that if they want britneys new suicide song for the rape parts i have to agree with it, im in charge of the music totally, i am allowed to do whatever i want.
i spoke to my teatcher about the music and said that i will offcourse not make too noisy stuff becouse i dont want people to get irritated, she told me to do what i wanted, she told me not to forget the character of my own stuff and she said that i should use some drilly stuff =D (she has heard my music, and likes it) very open minded lady, that's great.
good day
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cataLYST
from Waldorf (United States) on 2004-08-27 10:21 [#01315778]
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Thats awesome man! Great oppurtunity indeed.. I've heard several of your songs and their very tight in production and I believe I remember your melodies already incorporating some string action.. I would def. stick with the strings, maybe even more modern with some woodwinds and or brass if you have any you can sequence.. but def made the beat idmish maybe more a textured freeflowing beat.. I was thinking also when the music has to get more intense thats a great oppurtunity to learn more about accenting the beat or melody but how would you know when to do it? Is this going to be rehearsed before?
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_awt_
from Malmö (Sweden) on 2004-08-27 10:25 [#01315782]
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offcourse it will be rehearsed, allot, got almost a year for first making the tracks while also going to the "theatre classes" so i will be able to make music as we go, hopefully finish it all by end of winter then concentrate on mixing and syncing everything a couple of months after that, then the play will be shown for quite some time when it's finished.
thanks for the reply! good evening
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weatheredstoner
from same shit babes. (United States) on 2004-08-27 10:28 [#01315785]
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definately check out that funckarma track, because the noise they use is gritty, but its not annoying and its almost ambient because it fits real well with the rest of the song.
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weatheredstoner
from same shit babes. (United States) on 2004-08-27 10:30 [#01315788]
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of course, it'll all be your own style, and it would be neat to hear some drill in a play, but i cant imagine what it would be like because every play i've been too is kinda cliche.
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2004-08-27 10:38 [#01315799]
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nice.
but it's almost impossible to say what kind of music would fit the play without reading the text and knowing what kind of style it will be produced in.
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Skink
from A cesspool in eden on 2004-08-27 10:50 [#01315830]
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I think qrter is right there.
I guess if it is modern and gritty then the music can be as well.
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_awt_
from Malmö (Sweden) on 2004-08-27 10:57 [#01315839]
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agree, i was only asking for general tips and sutch, the manus script/text is not finished yet so i dont even know, i guess that makes me a bit worried even though i should not worry.
I have a feeling about it as i have seen the play they did before, it was very nice acctually (i normally dont enjoy school plays) but i can honestly say that they did lack allot of music, it was "press play on a cd player" style all over it and the only music that really related to the play was an acoustic guittar + song that a girl played and singed.
so im looking forward to dig into this !
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_awt_
from Malmö (Sweden) on 2004-08-27 10:59 [#01315842]
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im gonna check that track soon, i need a pizza in the belly first =D
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2004-08-27 11:06 [#01315847]
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I have done music with a friend for a play too, a few years back. we had the text (which was pretty awful), but in the end we pretty much did what we felt like at the time.
BUT the director was kind of an ass. we could've presented him with just about any kind of music and he would react kind of bored with a "yeah, nice..". so we decided to make it fun primarily for ourselves.
the friend who I did that with together had done more "soundtracks" for plays and he says that when the director is being vague about what he wants you just do what you feel like doing, so you have something to work from.
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The_Funkmaster
from St. John's (Canada) on 2004-08-27 11:12 [#01315851]
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my advice would be to read through the play a few times obviously, to get an idea what it's about... then discuss with the person or persons producing the play to figure out where the music is going to be needed, like what scenes and stuff... once you've figured out where it is needed, just identify the core emotions of the scenes, and make the music accordingly...
good luck though, sounds like a great opportunity!
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010101
from Vancouver (Canada) on 2004-08-27 11:22 [#01315858]
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Because of the uncomfortable theme of the play I feel the music should go with this theme. Talk to the sound tech and lighting tech and see if you can do a loud/quiet thing in conjunction with the lighting.
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_awt_
from Malmö (Sweden) on 2004-08-27 11:39 [#01315870]
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well, this director is my "personal teatcher" shes an american lady who is really really nice, very open minded but not in the way that she dont give a shit, we have talked things trough and now ill just have to get prepared "record sounds, make good string samples maybe and so on" untill i get the text, after that it's time to go creative and yeah, i will do pretty mutch what i want myself but i will listen to the leading actors of the play aswell, i want it to end up "listenable" but at the same time with a personal toutch and maybe even some disturbing sounds at the right places of the play (i want people to notice that theres something special about the music aswell ;).
but yeah, thank god the director isnt a ass, i dont think i would agreed from the first place if i didnt like the old lady directing this thing.
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_awt_
from Malmö (Sweden) on 2004-08-27 11:44 [#01315876]
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the reading part will not be a problem at all, i dont think i will need to read mutch at all becouse im going to stay on the classes when the actors and directors are managing and practesing the whole thing.
Im planning on making the music step by step showing examples to everyone and trying out different melodies with different scenes and so on, while doing that i will keep the emoitions of the scenes and peoples feelings in mind all the way too create something emotional.. theres different level of emotional yes but i will try to keep the emotions "deep" but still on a pretty "easy" level so that anyone can understand and "feeeeel" with the music =)
thanks for wishing me good luck!
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_awt_
from Malmö (Sweden) on 2004-08-27 11:48 [#01315878]
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yes, i have been thinking of some loud/quit stuff and also light things, the light will pretty mutch be focused on the actors though, at least that's what the light was used to before.
the load quite thing is a really important part imo, letting everone breath "both actors and audience and the sound itself" is pretty important i think, using this in a good way can be really great for the "power/emotions" of the music too, you know what i mean, when the music stops and then come back at the right time it can really strike with a great feeling.
good evening again!
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r40f
from qrters tea party on 2004-08-27 11:53 [#01315885]
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congratulations - i've heard your music and i think you'll do a great job!
have you seen the episode of south park where phillip glass performs at the xmas play? ;)
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_awt_
from Malmö (Sweden) on 2004-08-27 11:57 [#01315888]
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im not a huge southpark fan =D but i do think i have seen it yes, long time ago, remember the becouse aphex has remixed some tack by him, otherwise i dont know mr philip
good day to you
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2004-08-27 12:07 [#01315897]
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also try juxtaposing the music with what's seen/heard - just following the emotion of the scene can get boring very quickly.
try making contrasts.
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_awt_
from Malmö (Sweden) on 2004-08-27 12:22 [#01315905]
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thanks, i will take think allot about that (i guess i will think about most things hopefully)
Contrasts is an important ingrediense indeed, i personally would hate going trugh a whole play just listening to slow half sad melodies and rides.
Im planning contrasts that involves silence, but also big changes from very very calm and silent music to less silent music =)
thanks for the tips! i do take them to my mind i assure you that
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