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venetian snares - horse and goat - 03 - richard devine a+ student fucking, brilliant name. my friend just brought this to my attn: ROFLES |
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A FUCKING + |
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I don't know if I get the exact meaning of the title, but I believe mr devine is much much better compared to venetian snares. |
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Just bought this today. 2 tracks don't suck |
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1 & 5 |
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you read my mind |
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I don't know, Prophylactic Eyehead kind of does something for me. Mneh. |
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1 & 5, absolutely. By far the best tracks on there. |
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aaron and richard are buddies. it's all about some hepatitis sundae for me. |
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i think every track on this album is quite rockin'. listening now, in fact... one of my favorite vsnares releases. |
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not a favourite but thats dificult considering hes done masterpieces such as doll doll doll, making orange things and songs about my cats |
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and witboas and a giant alien force and and and and |
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Check his split single with phantomsmasher. At last some depth in his music. He actually only remixes |
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It doesn't get mentioned often: Otto von Schirach owns VSnares' socks, so every fan check 8.000 BC and chopped zombie fungus |
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i'm surprised there's been no mention of the disturbing pedophiliac fantasy artwork for "horse and goat." don't let yer mom catch you with it... |
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pedophiliac? its just art, lets not get scared for every fucking vagina |
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a prepubescent girl with a lollipop in her mouth and a lollipop in her hairless vagina with a large phallus ejaculating before her *is* pedophiliac, whether you like it or not. i'm not saying it's good art or bad art, or whether it's art at all. i also am not offended. i do, however, appreciate that it's a genuinely controversial image, and thought it seemed likely to generate comments. next you'll be trying to tell me that the pink banana on the velvet underground's album wasn't a sexual reference. |
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paedophilia is a crime this artwork is art... and totally far from being a crime its a radical image, ok... but paedophilia is a crime consisting on having sex with a child... I see nobody having sex with a child here... |
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sheesh, what a sad semantic argument. i said it was a pedophiliac fantasy, i never said it depicted sex with a child. in my second post, when i said it was a pedophiliac image, i meant that it was an image that represented a prepubescent girl in a radically sexualized image. you are wrong about pedophilia, however. pedophilia is the sexual attraction to children, and is not a crime in and of itself. of course, the reason that pedophilia is controversial is the frequency with which pedophiliacs act upon their desires. in some countries, this image would be criminal (not that i necessarily agree with that criminality). whether it is art or not is not the issue. you venetian snares fans are so sensitive (apparently from all the criticism aaron gets) : D |
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this doesnt have anything to do with me liking vsnares I have books of art in my room with more radical paintings than that art is art... and I am tired and bored of puritan minds acording to your definition of paedophilia I still see no paedophilia in this painting sorry |
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and I love snare sand still think that the hccbu artwork is shit so I have no problems with some criticsm |
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I love snares abut think that most of Trevor Brown's artwork is fulfilling paedophilic fantasies. Why do you think he lives in Japan? Because he is wanted by police in UK. Those images are not acceptable in a society where some men are doing their best not to abuse little girls. |
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nacmat, maybe you should contain your criticism until you are in the presence of a puritan mind. in my perception, and i only remark because i think it is an interesting observation, you are exhibiting an astonishing case of denial. i certainly would be interested to hear your thoughts on what ideas *are* put forth by this painting, what the artist is articulating... |
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is it me or are you just playing on words here... = / it is controversial, it does feature a girl with hairless vagina showing and surrounded by phallus and phallic symbols in a childish atmosphere - it is full of (childhood + sexual) symbols combined. i don't think you can deny that. by the way, could you get the alien force... cd eventually nacmat? : ) i think the artwork is beautiful, looks a lot like a draft 7.30-ripoff but still pretty nice. |
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there's even a tampon string protuding from her fandango IT'S SICK I TELL YOU, SICK! trevor brown is on the sex offenders list here in england and can never move back |
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is it a tampon string?, maybe it's a lollipop |
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That artwork is raytrace-tastic. |
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I dig the artwork... I think most of mr Brown's artwork is scary. where does that "paedophile heaven" link go? I'm at school so I can't check. "trevor brown is on the sex offenders list here in england and can never move back" does that mean that he's done something (except paint?) |
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for venetian snares as well as for trevor brown, and lots of other stuff like this (merzbow...), i suspect a lot of the fans to like it just because it's "extreme"/controversial... |
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uzim> yeah... I guess some people are like that.. what I was thinking about the other day is how people would react if they'd catch me with some artwork of Trevor Brown (even if it was just a CD-cover). Just like nacmat, I'm not saying he's the most controversial artist, but his art is really controversial (with all the childmolesting-crimes going on, and most people not being very open about "art"). How would they react? At the moment I haven't got anything of his, but that might change any day. |
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Ever notice the spelling blocks in that picture? FK then ME ? |
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thats the only good thing about the release |
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raytracing is hard :'( |
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not being very open about "art" > we could enter a whole debate about this, what can be considered art or not, when perversion and pornography can be considered as art, if commercial jingles, a child's scribbles and drawings, etc. can be considered as art, how far can people go with "this is art, not [peadophilia/pornography/misogynism/nazi propaganda or whatever]" as an "excuse" (?)... |
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we've opened bigger cans of worms before. Someone start a new topic! |
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"we could enter a whole debate about this, what can be considered art or not" that's not what I wanted to do... and that's why I wrote art like "art". What I meant is more like why people would assume that I liked the art(work of TB). And if something is far away from normal "art" then most people don't care enough or want to get into it (atleast that's the case with music, [and with movies] so I assume it's the same with paintings). |
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... You've got some cds of VSnares, right? So how do people react on the artwork? |
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Wrong. |
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you have your opinion, and I have mine I just want to leave clear that this has nothing to do with the fact that I like the music aaron makes. you have induced that I am some kind of blind fanboy... and I tell you I am not... but yes I like his music. and about the artwork, I am sorry to have my opinion, its just htat I see no crime in it, nor I see paedophilia there..., as I dont think the artist is trying to describe the sexual attraction towards children, he is just playing with elements, and yes, in a radical way |
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i liked you more, when you were an autechre fan boy. |
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it's a lollipop. she's too young for tampons :P |
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you see... indeed I am an autechre fanboy... but not a snares fanboy |
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but, but i was only kidding...i like you no matter what!! |
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I'm a snares fanboy, but I'm sure I've told you that before |
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what does fanboy mean? I like every album I ve heard by snares and I think he is talented... but I understand that not everybody likes him... its just a matter of taste... as not everybody likes underworld, or aphex or madonna so... am I a fanboy? |
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btw I just bought the printf cd for gemm |
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i don't think you're a fanboy...you like his music a lot, but i doubt that alone makes you a fanboy...not that i have problems with fanboys or something...everyone is free to do what they like. a classic fanboy/fangirl as i imagine it is a pimply human, with his room full of posters of his favourite msucian, a collection of every single release, with a book full of newspaper articles, photos,... so, are you a fanboy? :) |
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gemm is some kind of e-bay? if you are realy trying to get everything from venetian snares (have you found A giant alien...force already?) then you're a real fanboy For me you're one of the biggest VS fanboys on this mboard |
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yes I got a giant alien force already... I still mut pay for it though tolstoyed: yes, I would like to get all the music that I can from him, cos I like it, but I have not posters or books or whatever... and I know he is not the best or anything... its just that I like it. |
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I bet nacmat doesn't have autechre posters, newsarticles, etc from autechre, but he's a big fan. |
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