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pantalaimon
from Winterfell (United Kingdom) on 2004-05-13 07:11 [#01186055]
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anyone going to see it? i'm still not sure, kind of gone off hollywood recently.
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giginger
from Milky Beans (United Kingdom) on 2004-05-13 07:13 [#01186056]
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Well they've changed the source material for a start.
Nowhere in the book is Achilles romping with 5 women. Yet that's apparently in the film. I'm all for 6 in a bed action but not at the expense of a films integrity and changing the characters sexuality. That's just ONE thing. But it's the most interesting.
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epohs
from )C: on 2004-05-13 07:13 [#01186057]
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i don't think it'll be much more than massive battleish eye candy.
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Jarworski
from The Grove (United Kingdom) on 2004-05-13 07:13 [#01186058]
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Nah. It had some terrible reviews in the UK press but apparently it's not too bad (slow first hour then heats up) but three hours in the cinema plus a dodgy Pitt accent = wait for it on Sky. Plus, I dunno if I can handle yet another bloody massive CGI army fight...
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mortsto-x
from Trondheim/Bodø (Norway) on 2004-05-13 07:16 [#01186067]
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No. Tired of pompous battle scenes...
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giginger
from Milky Beans (United Kingdom) on 2004-05-13 07:18 [#01186071]
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I'm seeing it on Orange Wednesday :)
HALF FUCKING PRICE BAM!
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slint
on 2004-05-13 07:24 [#01186081]
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achilles was gay a lot of omeric heroes were gay or bisexual i wonder if in this movie achilles is gay
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giginger
from Milky Beans (United Kingdom) on 2004-05-13 07:25 [#01186084]
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Read the second post :D
They've changed it yo!
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slint
on 2004-05-13 07:30 [#01186086]
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achilles with 5 women? come on that's a shame i'm sick of hollywood what the fuck is the link between USA and omeric poems? i'm disgusted
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KEYFUMBLER
from DUBLIN (Ireland) on 2004-05-13 07:42 [#01186096]
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yeh... fuck "Troy" - get your chops around some "King Arthur" action by that master film-maker, jerry brucheimer, out in June. i'm in it so it has to be good!
i bet when i see Troy i'll crack up laughing at the horse-gift bit, thinking of Monty Python and the Holy Grail
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giginger
from Milky Beans (United Kingdom) on 2004-05-13 07:46 [#01186098]
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That's what I've heard. I won't know till i've seen it I suppose. It's a shame they do things like that though.
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loafeye
on 2004-05-13 08:15 [#01186133]
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I heard that Eric Bana(The Incredible HULK! RARRRRRRRR!) is the only reason to see this film. I read a review that said he steals the movie from Brad Pittstain.
Excalibur is the only "King Arthur" flick imo. If you haven't seen it, rent it or better yet buy it and see it ASAP. It is a wonderful movie.
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Ophecks
from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2004-05-13 08:25 [#01186146]
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Leonard Maltin said it was a REALLY good movie, praised Pitt and Bana AND the battles. But Maltin has weird googly eyes so I don't trust him.
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pOgO
from behind your belly button fluff on 2004-05-13 08:32 [#01186156]
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I wouldent mind seeing it but I don;t know if I'll go to the cinema to see it
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KEYFUMBLER
from DUBLIN (Ireland) on 2004-05-13 08:33 [#01186158]
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seen it. fantastic flick alright. They way Arthur's a pure gobshite at the start then turns into a complicated character near the end.
oh yeh and two words... Helen Mirren!!!
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KEYFUMBLER
from DUBLIN (Ireland) on 2004-05-13 08:34 [#01186161]
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(talkin bout "excalibur" there)
pOgO wants to see Brads pits :)
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pantalaimon
from Winterfell (United Kingdom) on 2004-05-13 08:38 [#01186164]
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i'm definately not seeing it at the cinema, looks way too hollywood. The only film worth looking forward too is the likely Cannes winner '2046' by Wong Kar Wai.
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KEYFUMBLER
from DUBLIN (Ireland) on 2004-05-13 08:42 [#01186166]
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check out "Twilight Samurai" too. It got nominated for best foreign film at Oscars and is my film-of-the-year. i thionk its being released generally soon although it may be avail on DVD from Japan.
best sword-action ever filmed! Not gratuitous or anything. Full of pathos a la Kurasawa and the best acting in ages...
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pantalaimon
from Winterfell (United Kingdom) on 2004-05-13 08:44 [#01186167]
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yeah i heard about that, think i missed it at the cinema tho :( The good films are usually only released for about a week here
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Jedy
from dublin (Ireland) on 2004-05-13 08:53 [#01186173]
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i will not waist my money on that crap
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afxNUMB
from So.Flo on 2004-05-13 09:11 [#01186198]
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I'll tell you how it is
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afxNUMB
from So.Flo on 2004-05-13 10:03 [#01186288]
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170 minutes!!! wow, thats almost as long as Return of the King
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pf
from Finland on 2004-05-13 10:08 [#01186293]
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Agreed, too much massive battle scenes, movies aint about that. They should go back to basics..
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fleetmouse
from Horny for Truth on 2004-05-13 10:21 [#01186321]
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I'm very interested in this. Wonder if they worked from the Robert Fagles translation? It's a relatively literal translation that doesn't attempt to force it into English style poetic form.
Funny thing is I took a course on the Iliad and we were discussing who'd play who in the movie version, and when someone suggested Brad Pitt as Achilles we all had a good laugh. :D I understand he had a body double for some scenes because his legs were too skinny even after bulking up.
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X-tomatic
from ze war room on 2004-05-13 13:19 [#01186614]
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Judging from what I've seen from it so far and the changes they made to the story, it'll be a piece of utter crap.
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2004-05-13 13:45 [#01186654]
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so, is brad pitt naked in this one?
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giginger
from Milky Beans (United Kingdom) on 2004-05-13 13:47 [#01186655]
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Only when he removes his clothes.
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2004-05-13 13:48 [#01186658]
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weird... anyway, i shall see it then.
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mc_303_beatz
from Glasgow, Scotland on 2004-05-16 06:58 [#01190561]
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this film was fuckin wicked. saw it last night.
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Anus_Presley
on 2004-05-16 08:17 [#01190612]
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no i won't be going to see the film
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2004-05-16 08:19 [#01190614]
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why?
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Anus_Presley
on 2004-05-16 08:20 [#01190615]
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i don't go to see films. waste of my money.
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2004-05-16 08:21 [#01190617]
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im not going to go in the cinema to see this either, but i will most likely watch it on divx one day. maybe.
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Anus_Presley
on 2004-05-16 08:23 [#01190618]
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i'll watch it when it comes out on TV, maybe. i'm in no rrush.
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pf
from Finland on 2004-05-16 09:04 [#01190644]
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I saw it yesterday, it was ok. nothing special, liked the end. The strange thing was that Brad Pitt was naked allmost half of the movie.
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3051
from Vietnam on 2004-05-16 09:14 [#01190650]
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Movie is a condom.
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2004-05-16 09:32 [#01190667]
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oho. sounds like 5/5 to me!!
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acrid milk hall
from United Kingdom on 2004-05-26 02:51 [#01207797]
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Interesting (I think) that these kind of "Epic" movies (Gladiator, Master&Commander, Troy) used to be the main currency in Hollywood for a long time. They only stopped making them because the huge sets & thousands of extras cost too much i comparison to the box office returns.
Only now, thanks to CGI are they resurrecting these "Classic" genres. It's funny how a step forward in cenematographic technology has allowed film-makers to take a step backwards in subject matter.
Still, I'd rather they used CGI to try and expand reality than to create tacky showpieces. It's nice to see that horrible 90s boy-with-a-new-toy fad of producing dire movies as an excuse to bring an amateur, unconvincing CGI creature to the screen as if to dazzle people. As though we're ALL that stupid. I've been waiting for them to get over the novelty of the power that digital technology has unlocked for the cinema. As far as I'm concerned, CGI ought to be used to integrate impractical elements into the 'reality' of film; rather than to stand out from it like a sore thumb.
Although I haven't seen it yet, films like Troy (along with Lord of the Rings & the others I mentionned) represent a step towards this.
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acrid milk hall
from United Kingdom on 2004-05-26 02:53 [#01207800]
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Bla bla bla, says I..
My god, work is boring today. I need a new challenge in life..
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goDel
from ɐpʎǝx (Seychelles) on 2004-05-26 03:04 [#01207815]
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troy is crap. it's like a bad rip-off of those classic hollywood flicks, but with a large budget. a budget which gives you scenes like a camera shot flying over the city wall while seeing the greeks fight the troyians, all in chique slowmotion of course, and no sounds but the melancholic singing of a female voice. did i say lord of the rings?
and achilles' deathscene. it's hard to describe what it was that made me wonder which scene was worse: achilles' death or trinity's death in matrix3?
wooops, i hope i didnt spoil the story or anything
you'll like troy if you missed brad pitt in action while watching lotr.
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2004-05-26 03:06 [#01207818]
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I'm probably going to see it, but not in the cinema. I'll rent it or download it later sometime...
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acrid milk hall
from United Kingdom on 2004-05-26 03:15 [#01207833]
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Haha.. That scene you described sounds exactly like Lord of the Rings.
But then, I'm sure they weren't the first to do it either.
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Jedy
from dublin (Ireland) on 2004-05-26 03:17 [#01207836]
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excellent
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Raz0rBlade_uk
on 2004-05-26 04:32 [#01207980]
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Just wanna say. Great film. Brad Pitt's performance was sensational.
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acrid milk hall
from United Kingdom on 2004-05-26 05:20 [#01208033]
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Really?
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pantalaimon
from Winterfell (United Kingdom) on 2004-05-26 06:17 [#01208143]
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He's joking
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Raz0rBlade_uk
on 2004-05-26 06:33 [#01208152]
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who me? I wasn't joking
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cuntychuck
from Copenhagen (Denmark) on 2004-05-26 06:46 [#01208160]
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sux
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