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primitive things exist. For example primitive is belief that drawing "evil" blood out of sick is a cure or that heart is seat of intellect. Some people would consider aphex twin and squarepusher to be advanced (not primitive) music. Does complexity of patterns make something appear advanced, is it the chaotic structure or something else? Unusual time signatures do exist in primitive music. I was also able to find so many elements from meditarean folk music (which is too primitive) in aphex and squarepusher's melodies. I haven't heard anything new yet. Primitive music perhaps originates from primitive instruments, although I think that it is irrelevant. Person can create same beat and music patterns by hitting two rocks against each other. Primitive could also mean overplayed, or maybe it is a fad that has ceased to be popular. If that is the case, how is it possible that fads repeat themselves (sometimes in slightly different forms) ? I don't know what primitive means in terms of music. Help me out Thanks! |
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The Bro |
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primitive music = 4/4 120bpm techno where the drum goes "bum-cha-bum-cha-bum-cha-bum-cha," and the melody goes "ti-ti-ti-ti-ti-ti-ti-ta-tatata-ta-ta-ta-ta-ta-ti" |
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Drunken Mastah Don't know man.... those sexually frustrated midgets (reffering to high pitch female vocals) have a right to culture on their own. |
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I saw this thread title and was going to post the EXACT same thing. Now I'll have to write: g1g1ng3r |
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Well humans have a unique, to this degree at least, thing among animals called culture. Culture builds on itself, meaning that as individual humans get born and die, they observe the present culture and sometimes augment it. Steam engines become gas engines, abacuses become computers etc. We presently live in a time when our species is advancing exponentially culturally, of which computers are perhaps a significant part. And since computers are proving superior at organizing sound, at least in terms of measuring small units of time accurately and keeping memory of complex things (a wav file, say).. it's expected that music made by computers will advance in par with the computers themselves. A complex coded program that specifically tells the sound what to do requires more advanced culture than playing drums live or something, so the latter can be called more primitive. |
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There is a difference btw stupid and primitive. I wouldn't like this to be a discussion about stupid music. -my apologies to sexually frustrated migets. |
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Well that seemingly applies to people like autechre at least, but for people like aphex twin and frederic chopin, their brains seem to be more fit for music (at least) for a genetic reason perhaps. |
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wmw, but there are also programs that imitate the human error so sound can be more natural (not primitive, but natural to human ear). I bet that any synth maker would give his/her life to know how to make synths that sound like real (more primitive than computers) instruments. |
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(adding) you did give me an idea for this topic by the way :) I am not trying to elevate the poor quality of the unfinished tune that I don't even like ...... |
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a new theory within human evolutionary theory is that art is just another way for people to prove themselves to be a good partner, genetically speaking. |
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Yeah but emulating "primitive" sound with "advanced" technology is kind of a bizarre case and an exception to the genreal trend of advanced technology being used to produce advanced sound. Well, keep practicing/learning and you should eventually be able to produce something that you like (whether or not anyone else likes it). |
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oh man |
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hahah ... but sometimes I feel there are too many promo-jokes on the board. |
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There's this one crazy male bird of a species that collects a bunch of red (I believe) random shiny things and puts them in a pile to attract his mate. I guess that might be art... |
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I've put a new (though old) primitive track up for all to check ;-) |
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kind of the same principle, yeah. |
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In terms of keeping a constant tempo and accuracy, I agree that advanced technology does make a gap btw primitive and advanced instruments. I think that advanced music does not imply something that is random or complicated but something that is accurate. Still, I haven't heard any electronic composition that can be compared with harmony of philharmonic orchestra. Pleople have tried to imitate philharmonic orchestra with advanced technology... tried and failed. Why ? |
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(sorry about sp errors...) |
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