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offline giginger from Milky Beans (United Kingdom) on 2004-04-14 08:20 [#01142110]
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Case (SR-71 Peacemaker):
Sploink!

Motherboard:
Sploink!

Processor:
Sploink!

RAM:
Sploink!

Hard Drive *2:
Sploink!

I'm having trouble deciding on a Graphics card and a Sound
card.

There's so many different models of Graphics card that it's
nigh on impossible to work out which is the best!

As for the soundcard. Well, I can only go by recommendation.
Obviously I'm going to want a good one as I'll be making
music on this PC and I want to hook different instruments
into it :)

If anyone could make suggestions as to what I should get or
any component changes you would recommend then please let me
know :)


 

offline Zephyr Twin from ΔΔΔ on 2004-04-14 08:27 [#01142121]
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As far as graphics go, go with ATI's Radeon series. I have a
Radeon 9500 pro and my roomate has the model with basically
the same specs in the Nvidia Geforce series.... his is
always dropping the framerate and occaisonally doesn't
display textures in certain games right (Max payne 2 was
especially bad), and my card is always right on the money.
I've owned Nvidia cards before (but never the GeForce 4
series) and wasnt impressed by them, but I have been
completely satisfied with my 9500 since I got it, and still
am, even though it is on the brink of being made obsolete.

As far as soundcards are concerned, it all comes down to
what you want to do with your computer. If it's going to be
mainly for games/listening to music/surfing the web,
get yourself a Sound Blaster with some crazy surround sound
speakers (they make 7.1channel now with the Audigy 2 ZS). If
you want to use your computer for music production, I would
recommend a Terratec soundcard or possibly a USB solution,
perhaps by M-audio or Digidesign.

Hope this helps mate ;)

BAM!


 

offline giginger from Milky Beans (United Kingdom) on 2004-04-14 08:28 [#01142123]
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That does indeed help. Thank you.

Could you possibly suggest any specific models?

BAM!


 

offline Zephyr Twin from ΔΔΔ on 2004-04-14 08:29 [#01142125]
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just noticed the part about wanting to hook things into
it...

go with terratec if you want more than 2 instruments plugged
in at once, otherwise the suggestions I gave you before
still apply. I think digidesign probably makes some external
solutions that give lots of inputs, but dont quote me on
that.


 

offline giginger from Milky Beans (United Kingdom) on 2004-04-14 08:33 [#01142136]
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I'll investigate the Terratec then.

It'll mainly just be my clavinova plugged in but there may
be some electric guitar action going on :)

Cheers for then tips :)


 

offline Zephyr Twin from ΔΔΔ on 2004-04-14 08:34 [#01142137]
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specific models? hmm... well, as far as terratec goes the
Phase 28 offers a 24/96 interface with lots of inputs
coming off as wires out the back, but if this is a little to
cheap for you, the DMX6 Fire seems to be quite nice...
smae 24bit/96khz digital interface, but you get the nice box
with all the inputs/outputs that can either be housed in a
5.25" drive bay in your computer, or parked somewhere
externally :)


 

offline horsefactory from 💠 (United Kingdom) on 2004-04-14 08:34 [#01142139]
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Get a radeon from here

Something like the "Sapphire ATI Radeon 9600XT Ultimate"
would be sweet. As for the sound card go for an Audigy 2 or
something.

By the way, overclockers.co.uk is the best site I have
found, maybe check their prices of the stuff you've ordered,
you might save some money.


 

offline Zephyr Twin from ΔΔΔ on 2004-04-14 08:35 [#01142141]
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If I hadn't bought my Ozone, I'd say I would probably have
gotten a DMX fire


 

offline Zephyr Twin from ΔΔΔ on 2004-04-14 08:36 [#01142143]
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noice... thats the 256mb one right?

that card is definately hot shit, but I want a radeon 9800
pro! I just dont want to pay 400 dollars. =/


 

offline giginger from Milky Beans (United Kingdom) on 2004-04-14 08:36 [#01142144]
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Very tasty :)


 

offline giginger from Milky Beans (United Kingdom) on 2004-04-14 08:38 [#01142146]
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The links were just to where there was some details. I'll be
doing a full price check :D

That Card looks nice and the TV-Out would be cool as I plan
to have it in my record room where the TV is. Quality for
films that appeared on my hard drive.


 

offline ledge from GSV Sweet and Full of Grace on 2004-04-14 09:13 [#01142183]
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I just built my own PC, spent money on getting quality quiet
components, (ukp140 on case, psu, heatsink and fan), and
then found out the graphics card (radeon 9600 xt) comes with
a tiny fan that's a noisy bastard. If you care about
decibels then to Quiet PC, they do a graphics card
with a huge but quiet heatsink.


 

offline giginger from Milky Beans (United Kingdom) on 2004-04-14 09:25 [#01142193]
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Noise definitely comes into it. My current one is like
Harrier Jump Jet.

The case I've chosen is supposedly quite quiet. I'll have a
look at that site you've said though. Anything that reduces
noise is good by me :)


 

offline Zephyr Twin from ΔΔΔ on 2004-04-14 11:25 [#01142323]
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hahahaha... harrier jump jet.. sounds exactly like mine.

(my case has 11 fans =P)


 

offline giginger from Milky Beans (United Kingdom) on 2004-04-14 11:28 [#01142327]
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fucking hell!

This one has two 120mm fans which should help push the air
around while keeping it quiet.


 

offline AMinal from Toronto (Canada) on 2004-04-14 22:08 [#01143402]
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make sure the video card you choose is quiet - some of them
are really loud, even for people who dont care so much about
noise

also get a quiet CPU fan and power supply.... if those are
reall loud, the AWSOME case you have picked out will be
somewhat wasted

awsome case btw

you can find all this at ww.quietpc.com

i make music w/ my computer, and i really need to silence
it, its loud as a mofo


 

offline giginger from Milky Beans (United Kingdom) on 2004-04-15 02:14 [#01143477]
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I'm pretty pleased with my choice of Case :)

When I've made a preliminary Graphics Card choice I'll
e-mail the shop and manufacturer and ask for a dB rating if
it's not already specified. I think that's the best way.

You're the second person to recommend quietpc.com so it's
obviously a good source of quiet components. :)

BAM!

Thanks for the tips.


 

offline Ceri JC from Jefferson City (United States) on 2004-04-15 03:26 [#01143520]
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Bear in mind you can always get a mixer to add extra audio
inputs (albeit not on different channels, but unless you're
going to be playing with other people at the same time,
that's not a problem) and you can get midi boxes that
increase the number of midi devices that can connect to your
soundcard (and function on different channels, so you could
have a midikeyboard on 1, a knob box on 2 and send midi out
to a drum machine and a rack synth).


 

offline princo from Shitty City (Geelong) (Australia) on 2004-04-15 03:28 [#01143523]
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Hey Chris, I mailed you your record mate! ;)


 

offline giginger from Milky Beans (United Kingdom) on 2004-04-15 03:32 [#01143532]
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That's a point.

Still want a good soundcard though :P

Princo: FUCKING A!


 

offline Ceri JC from Jefferson City (United States) on 2004-04-15 03:34 [#01143536]
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Yeah, just pointing out you might like to consider a really
good one with just 1*midi I/O, Line in etc. rather than a
slightly inferior one (at the same price), but with more
ports :)

BTW, what OS will you be running on your music machine?


 

offline giginger from Milky Beans (United Kingdom) on 2004-04-15 03:36 [#01143538]
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BAM!

I'll probably stick with the copy of XP I currently have and
then upgrade to the 64 bit when it comes out. Although I'm
tempted to make it Dual Boot with Linux. Why do you ask sir?


 

offline giginger from Milky Beans (United Kingdom) on 2004-04-15 03:47 [#01143549]
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Just checked out http://www.quietpc.com/uk and they seem really good
prices. Sweet!

PSU coming from there and I'm considering getting two of
their 160GB drives instead of the one 250 I had planned.

Also getting the HSF for the processor from there.


 

offline Ceri JC from Jefferson City (United States) on 2004-04-15 03:51 [#01143554]
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Ah, just if by some weird chance you were going to be using
98 I could give you a Lexicon soundcard with 8 in, 4 out
audio (and optical). Since my folks got a new PC and gave
the old one away (I just used it for audio capture) I've not
been able to use it.


 

offline giginger from Milky Beans (United Kingdom) on 2004-04-15 04:04 [#01143560]
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Ah right.

Thanks for the offer though mate.


 


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