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http://www.yaledailynews.com/article.asp?AID=23435 Perfect really. First review yet that has really paralled my feeling for this movie. A dreadful film that is only worth watching for the "train-wreck" appeal. |
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i cant wait to see it |
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I agree mostly with this review. I didn't like the film mostly because the characters were just empty shells of human beings. I actively disliked them, and felt that they were just as shitty characters as the people they surrounded themselves with, (the blonde actress, the hip hop guy, the wife on the phone, etc.) Johanson is a yale philosophy graduate who doesn't have the slightest interest in a buddhist temple and its practices? |
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really not worth the hype, When I read: In America's current movie environment, "Lost in Translation" might be the best thing out there, despite its flaws. This reveals its most important function -- as an alarm that our film artists need to try harder and that audiences need to demand more. I would say go out and see Return of the King again, or the Battle of Algiers, that was fucking spectacular. |
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Sofia Copolla just won the oscar for best screenplay. |
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Interesting that this was written by someone at Yale. The mecca of privilage. |
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"It would have nice to see how Murray dealt with ..." Not privileged enough to have an editor, by the looks of it. |
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i've come to accept that this movie sucks. BUT i still enjoy it for a lot of the cinematography. |
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Um no. So she's priveliged.. therefore movie = bad. That's the worst logic I've ever heard. The film was great. It moved me more than any other movie last year. Fuck the critics. |
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most critics are pretty happy to ecstatic with it. |
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it wasn't a fan-fucking-tastic movie... but i don't buy most of the criticisms leveled against it here... the alienation from a lot of hollywood standards that the critic seems to feel here are intentional... and make up the bulk of what is trying to be expressed in lost in translation... your life doesn't have a tight-fitting plot arc... not everyone has flings on their holidays (in fact most people keep to themselves for the most part... so in some ways the interactions of the quasi-lover should be eventful enough in themselves...) -the movie certainly runs the risk of convincing the viewers that the japanese culture is silly and absurd... but the real point is that these kind of constructs are present everywhere... murray can't relate with his business associates, his wife, or the vast majority of the people he encounters in japan... but there are times where the characters do transcend the formal rigidity of societal structures and get to know each other on some level, despite the language barrier (the karaoke scene comes to mind)... in fact i'd say that music is a tool used in the film to transcend the symbolic barriers of language that we have thrown up between cultures and individuals... that said, it was a nice small film and not much more... fuck this terrible year for movies... |
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I met an awesome girl on the train from Boston to New York...We sucked face the entire time. It was amazing. |
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i agree with most reviews... that it's awesome. It really is one of the best films i've seen in recent years and easily in my top 10. Strange that you feel the need to go out of your way to find a review to support the fact that you don't like it. |
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"that said, it was a nice small film and not much more... fuck this terrible year for movies..." not at all, I thought it's the best year for a wile: Big Fish Lost In Translation Spirited Away Dark Water Kill Bill Dogville |
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"how did Johansson's character graduate from Yale while living in Los Angeles with her photographer husband at the same time?" shit yeah, I was thinking about that all through the movie! I tried reading all of that review but it's so off the mark its unbelievable, "visual interpretation is drab and flat"?? haha how can he be taken seriously? |
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"So she's priveliged.. therefore movie = bad. That's the worst logic I've ever heard." read the whole review and you'll find more than just that |
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haha, people who wrote that review totally missed the point of the film... |
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That is probably the most spasticated review I have ever had the misfortune of reading. It's obvious this reviewers idea of subtlety is having a concrete slab dropped on your head. It would have nice to see how Murray dealt with getting rid of the unwanted lounge singer in his bedroom, or to see how she got there in the first place. Isn't that fuckin obvious? Deary me. Some people are just born back to front or something. My opinion of course ;-) |
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hehe, that would certanly make a film much clearer. |
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What a stupid idiot. |
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Well I liked it. So fuck him. |
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I disagree with the most of that review. I can see how some people find it boring cause the most of it is left up to your own imagineation, wich some people don;t like to use when watching a film (You usually find that these people very rarley take the time to read a book) It was quite a slow film and there were parts I feel could have been beefed out a bit (The mentioned bit with the lounge singer in his room) But all in all I thought it was a very moving, beatifull peice of work The "Branding" on it has got nothing to do with it. I'm a total dunce when it comes to names, of actors as well as directors, so this movie could be made by Peter Andre for all I knew, and I couldent name you one movie by Francis Ford without having to google him (Although I've probably seen a few) |
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"Sofia Coppola is the privileged daughter of Hollywood. " - I agree, that gives it all away in the first line. The reviewers are flagellating themselves by proxy for the sin of being privileged, and for seeing themselves in Charlotte's character. Tamas Toro is on the Yale rowing team. Look how Elizabeth Deters that her easy life isn't easy enough. |
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"The characters are hollow, the plot is shapeless, and the visual interpretation is drab and flat." You can tell the reviewer is clueless by his/her prose. What a fuckin balloon-head. |
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i think a lot of people severely misunderstood the movie when she attends the temple she is realizing that nothing means anything to her - she's bored with life im not gonna sit here and explain the whole movie - if you didnt get it you didnt get it however i think on a scale from 1 to 10 its an 8 |
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It needed some fucking wizards goddamit! |
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well, i haven't seen big fish yet, to be fair... but, imo, this year pales in comparison to past years... Kill Bill was definitely good, but not up to snuff with his best... same can be said for the Coen brothers film... last year had Punch Drunk Love, and Spider, and the Pianist... the year before had the Royal Tenenbaums (probably the best film i've seen since the beginning of this decade), and Mullholland Drive, and No Man's Land... George Washington is better than this year's offering All the Real Girls (although, that was pretty darn good, in spite of its flaws)... etc, etc, etc... |
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Man, everyone in this thread was disagreeing with the review. I think we all "got" the film, you pretentious fool. |
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i love this film. |
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except for explodingplasti ofcourse...but he doesn't count |
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wow, i totally disagree with virtually everything in that review. but that's the beauty of cinimatic art. each person has their own interpretation i guess. |
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that review is wrong. on every level. and, yes, i do realise that this is just my opinion. but it's a fact. it is the truth. m'kay? |
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i watched this movie last weekend. i liked it, but thats about it... i smiled and thought "isn't that pretty" but nothing more, i didn't take it as some inoovative, new, breaking-barriers kind of film. i guess the building of a relationship between strangers in a strange land seems incredible to some people. sometimes, people are just lonely. i'm sure anyone would do the same thing, but yeah, i'd prolly end up banging the chick in the end |
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"i didn't take it as some inoovative, new, breaking-barriers kind of film. " when was the last time you saw something like this? and btw, i doubt sofia wanted her film to be any of that... |
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in a year of big, dramatic films - it was nice to see something which reflects the fact that the most affecting things in life are the subtleties. |
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i fucking LOVE this film. That review is a bag of cacky cack pants. The whole point of the film is that it doesnt have a big movie climax, or a big soppy ending like all other romantic films, which just live in the fantasy world that is hollywood. Its such a pretty film too. Man, that reviewer needs to get a new job. |
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yup. I'm not even going to read that review though. Some one quoted something from it where it made reference to how the lounge singer got there and how she left. I am curious as to how that would have improved the movie in any logical sense. It's like explaining to a child the developments in a movie geared towards adults. As to how she got there in the first place... they were sharing drinks and being social. This happens on a day to day basis all over the world. Some guy gets drunk and takes a girl home and doesnt remember. Did you see murrays reaction when he noticed someone else was there? I think its better off that they left that crap out. Just my opinion and thoughts thus far. |
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it apperantly took two great minds to write that review :) |
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"I am curious as to how that would have improved the movie in any logical sense" hahaha, it would probably win it an oscar |
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I didn't like the film mostly because the characters were just empty shells of human beings. I can completely respect your opinion but i would like to mention that i disagree. I like how they are empty. It really gives a certain realism to the film. There is a percentage of people out there in the world that probably feel like they do. From Murray who seems to feel like he should be doing something else in life (ie. making movies or doing broadway) to the girl who on the phone mentioned to another character that she felt like she married the wrong person. (if i remember correctly) There's a world of people that are just out there wandering around with absolutely no direction whatsoever. Taking it day by day and trying to make sense of what their lives have become. The girl spent a lot of that time in the movie trying to figure out her lack of spirituality. I feel like i had more to say but i just had a brain fart! :D!! |
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communication, temptation, love, the paradox of an outside environment... the meeting of two people among a strange land : these are common themes found in film, almost to the point of exhaustion IMO. |
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I can smell it. oh my. |
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I guess it's all about presentation of these themes, don't get me wrong, i liked the fucking movie :þ |
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hmm, i guess i didn't put it right... you said you didn't take it as some inoovative, new, breaking-barriers kind of film - so i replied sofia probably didnt intend to make this film to be inovative or breaking barriers kind fo film. i also asked what was the last inovative breaking barriers kind of film? cuz personally i think there isn't much more inovativity that film makers could put in a film, tho i'd love to see it happen... |
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RIGHT!! THAT'S IT!! I'm going next saturday and THAT'S THE END OF IT!! |
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The characters were anything but "empty shells." The entire movie is focused on developing the characters and it is this familiarity that makes their relationship so interesting. It's almost as if the reviewer didn't even watch the same movie. |
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to tokyo? |
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NO ! to your house. |
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cool any special requests? |
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