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this isnt music-relatd, but im desperate! i dont feel like paying for a computer tech because i know this is supposed to be basic stuff, and i figured some of you might be familiar with computer networks... anyway, here goes: ive got 3 computers, running on win2000, that are on the same network and connected to a hub. i want to add a fourth computer, running on win98, but cant figure out how. the ip address for the first 3 computers are: 10.10.10.11 10.10.10.12 10.10.10.13 so i figured i'd give the fourth computer this ip: 10.10.10.14 however, when i search for the other computers, it finds nothing! what am i doing wrong? thanks a lot for anyone you can give me a hand. |
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i think elusive is the networking god around here. Wait till he logs on, which should be sometime soon i think. |
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good, i'll wait for sure. thanks. |
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try ping'ing the other computers first, that'll tell you if it's an IP issue or a Windows network issue. |
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you can message me if you like. dozier77 on AIM |
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as far as i can remember, you need to make sure that all of the computers are on the same workgroup in Windows XP the default workgroup is MSHOME (i think), but the default workgroup in earlier versions of windows is WORKGROUP make sure that they're the same Also, it'd be a good idea to make sure that you've got at least one directory on each computer shared your IP addresses seem fine, although usually for private networks IP ranges start 192.168.xxx.xxx that shouldn't really matter, but it can't hurt to try changing the IP numbers |
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the 10.x.x.x class A is also a private network, just not quite as popular unless you really need a whole class A. and you don't technically have to be in the same workgroup, since you can 'explore the entire network' and access all workgroups that are connected. |
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yeah i know about the workgroup thing, but in my experience i've always come to a halt with windows and other workgroups but seeing as it's only for personal use, i can't do much harm to set all the macines on the net to the same workgroup it does sound weird though maybe the NIC is fucked? |
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yeah, no reason not to if it's just a little home network. it could be anything at this point, there's been no troubleshooting to rule anything out. |
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yeah..this could be a million things NIC fucked Cable fucked Cable not the right type (crossover is a NO-NO for hubbed networking) Cow infestation in the NIC port could be anything! |
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i left the laboratory, so i cant try anything at the moment. how do i ping the computers? and how will i know if it's a windows network or ip issue? the other 3 computers work fine, as they were connected months ago by someone who's obviously more qualified than i am... thanks to both for trying to help me out btw. |
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the cable isnt a crossover, so you can rule that out. from what i wrote, did i do everything right up to now? because im clueless! |
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goto command prompt by going Start Menu > Run... and type "cmd.exe" then at the prompt, type "ping" followed by a space and then the IP address you want to ping if the connection is there, you should recieve packets back if you're not receieving, then there's a problem |
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i'd take screenshots and post them but i'm lame and not an elite user or whatever it's called. |
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well, yeah i can't see anything wrong with what you've mentioned so far, but there are a lot of issues that need to be taken into account one of them being that Windows isn't exactly a piece of piss to network with.....then again, no OS is easy to network with!! as long as you have the IP addresses set, the right cabling, working NIC's, and preferably all the machines are on the same workgroup they should be fine, it should all work. i can't remember if there are issues trying to get new generation NT based Windows up and running on a net with older DOS based versions of Windows.......damn my head |
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lol yeah you're lame, you didn't spell elite 31337 heh |
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what would be the next step if the connection is good? |
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make sure that all the settings are sound stuff like workgroup. make sure that there are no conflicting computer names......that might cause a problem make sure that on all of the machines you have the same protocols and clients installed. for a modern network you only really need TCP/IP anyways, and you must have them installed else you wouldn't be able to set the IP addresses make sure that the option to share files and folders is switched on i can't think of anything else at the moment that might be causing a problem are firewalls installed? that could be problematic if there are any firewalls, disable them |
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the names are ok, everything on every computer is shared, and there are no firewalls... i'll try to do the ping thing next time im there. thanks a lot for the help. when i get an update, i'll resurect this thread, hoping both of you will see it :) |
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np mate :) i hope that you can resolve it, i know it's a pain in the arse when you're trying to do something, and it should be simple but it just won't go right i should see it, i'm basically in here from 5pm until 11pm weekdays!!!! pretty much 24 hrs a day at the weekend! lol |
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good luck to you! |
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i tried the ping thing, it came back negative... thats bad news right?.. |
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yes.. maybe your cable is fucked? |
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nah, the cable is fine. that i'm sure,a t least. |
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Check you have the subnet set correctly on the computer you are adding otherwise it won't be seen by the rest of the network. |
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