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offline acrid milk hall from United Kingdom on 2004-02-18 17:17 [#01079404]
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"Astronomers claim they have observed a "super-massive" b...


 

offline earthleakage from tell the world you're winning on 2004-02-18 17:22 [#01079409]
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that was cool, i was reading that earlier on. we're all
gonna die now.


 

offline tolstoyed from the ocean on 2004-02-18 17:23 [#01079410]
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i don't care...it's a shitty life anyway.


 

offline acrid milk hall from United Kingdom on 2004-02-18 17:28 [#01079415]
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just doing my civic duty for the people of xlt.
you can either start praying, get your provisions in + live
in the basement, or sit back and smile wryly while all
around you fall apart..

..maybe


 

offline bob from Nottingham (United Kingdom) on 2004-02-18 17:46 [#01079444]
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i'm scared now. thats the end for all of us if it comes over
here...


 

offline acrid milk hall from United Kingdom on 2004-02-18 17:49 [#01079446]
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dont worry, i'll look after you bob.
hows things at the bomb? i was down there the other weekend
for that charity night by the way.
saw derren. but he didnt see me.


 

offline Ophecks from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2004-02-18 18:09 [#01079462]
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Space scares the shit out of me. Whether it be
comets/asteroids, the sun expanding/exploding, black holes,
ozone layers... fuck. We're so puny and weak. Totally
powerless. Space can bum rush us at its leisure.


 

offline acrid milk hall from United Kingdom on 2004-02-18 18:11 [#01079464]
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wish id never started this thread now..
i just seem to be upsetting people.


 

offline weatheredstoner from same shit babes. (United States) on 2004-02-18 18:20 [#01079473]
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not me! I look foward to watching a black hole consuming
things. Think of how awesome and beautiful it would be to
witness a black hole slowly consume earth! HOLY SHIT!


 

offline AlfredPMcLovely from the country that will end up d (Turkmenistan) on 2004-02-18 18:22 [#01079476]
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I'm pretty sure somewhere someone is hard at work trying to
incorporate a black hole with goatc.ex


 

offline wimp on 2004-02-18 18:25 [#01079482]
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Awesome. Keep up the posts like this, Acrid Milk Hall.
Absolutely astonishing.

The Universe just depresses me. The insignifance of being.
The vastness of everything. The futility of living.


 

offline acrid milk hall from United Kingdom on 2004-02-18 18:29 [#01079486]
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if you insist..



 

offline Ophecks from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2004-02-18 18:30 [#01079490]
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I seriously wonder why I should bother going to work
tomorrow. I'm nothing. My work is useless.


 

offline acrid milk hall from United Kingdom on 2004-02-18 18:33 [#01079494]
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relish the futility of it all, bask in the glow of the
universe which dwarfs you + enjoy life for the beauty of the
transient detail.


 

offline wimp on 2004-02-18 18:37 [#01079499]
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Awesome, AMH! God that's amazing.

Ophecks: My philosophy on living, which I suppose is my
"meaning of life" is simply to live. That's all we can
really do. Live, breathe, laugh, suffer. All that good stuff
that makes being alive such a kaleidoscope of ranging
experiences.


 

offline roygbivcore from Joyrex.com, of course! on 2004-02-18 18:45 [#01079506]
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it's too bad there's no video of what happened

i wish i were an astronomer

you get to see cool shit


 

offline -crazone from smashing acid over and over on 2004-02-18 19:14 [#01079534]
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"This unlucky star just wandered into the wrong
neighbourhood"

Dr Stefanie Komossa, Max Planck Institute
(great name for an astronomer)

maybe it's very lucky now; black holes can bring you to the
other side of the galaxy according to starwars.


 

offline bogala from NYC (United States) on 2004-02-18 21:28 [#01079616]
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Uh, event horison.


 

offline bogala from NYC (United States) on 2004-02-18 21:31 [#01079619]
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Do they see this stuff real time? I know the stars we see
with our eyes are snapshots of a time millions of years ago.
Because of the speed at which light travels.


 

offline roygbivcore from Joyrex.com, of course! on 2004-02-18 21:38 [#01079623]
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i dunno i figure "observed" means "we saw that shit"


 

offline bogala from NYC (United States) on 2004-02-18 21:39 [#01079624]
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"this whole and amazing expanding UNiverse"


 

offline Zephyr Twin from ΔΔΔ on 2004-02-18 22:01 [#01079643]
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I think they actually do see them real time, because if you
think about it, all light travels at the same speed, so the
light from events like this start traveling towards us the
instant they happen individually.. did that make sense?


 

offline Zephyr Twin from ΔΔΔ on 2004-02-18 22:14 [#01079657]
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by the way, both of those links are so fucking cool.


 

offline Zephyr Twin from ΔΔΔ on 2004-02-18 22:15 [#01079659]
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I've always been hugely interested in astronomy... in my
astronomy class on tuesday we were actually discussing the
tendency of gravity to pull things from both directions,
like a blimp shape kind of.. you can see it in the pic of
the blackhole.. I've printed these out to show to my
professor tomorrow to see if she's gotten to see that stuff
yet =)


 

offline wimp on 2004-02-18 22:58 [#01079696]
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Light has a speed. The sun's light takes a few hours to
reach the earth.


 

offline acrid milk hall from United Kingdom on 2004-02-19 04:13 [#01079989]
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zephyr twin | they see them long after theyve happened
(depending on how near they are to earth). the light from
the stars you see at night is impossibly old. as wimp said,
light has a speed. but i was under the impression that the
sunlight takes 8.4 minutes to travel the 93
million miles to earth..? if we were far enough away for it
to take hours, things would be a lot colder here.


 

offline ecnadniarb on 2004-02-19 04:14 [#01079990]
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Half of you faggots want someone to rip your black hole
apart.


 

offline acrid milk hall from United Kingdom on 2004-02-19 04:29 [#01080012]
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thought id check these as my curiosity has been roused by
the last few posts:

the nearest star to earth (other than the sun) is 4.3 light
years away. so the light we see from that every night is
already almost four+a half years old.
the distance to the galaxy M87 in the virgo cluster is 50
million light years. so the light we see from stars located
there was being emitted at the same time as the first
recognised primates had begun to evolve.
the distance to most distant object seen in the universe is
about 18 billion light years (18 x 10^9 light years) which
takes us right back to the beginnings of the universe,
according to scientists.
i seem to remember reading this article once along the lines
that the more powerful an interstellar telescope was, the
further out it could look into the universe (ie.without
having to wait for the light to reach earth itself), the
further back it was looking in history. theoretically time
travel. or something along those lines which got a lot of
men locked away in labs far from their wives all excited
about.


 

offline acrid milk hall from United Kingdom on 2004-02-19 04:30 [#01080015]
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hahahaha our 2 last posts could not be more opposite in
theme/content.
id got so far as to say polar.
i actually winced when i read yours. what a horrible
thought..


 

offline Drunken Mastah from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2004-02-19 04:31 [#01080016]
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the fact that light from a star as old as the big bang
reaches earth totally disproves the big bang theory.


 

offline Anus_Presley on 2004-02-19 04:32 [#01080017]
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oh, not again!


 

offline acrid milk hall from United Kingdom on 2004-02-19 04:33 [#01080018]
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thats what i thought
but im only going on what i read..
maybe those outer limits are moving
reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeally slowly..?


 

offline Drunken Mastah from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2004-02-19 04:34 [#01080020]
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or really fast?

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offline acrid milk hall from United Kingdom on 2004-02-19 04:41 [#01080024]
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youre the scientist mate. not me. :)


 

offline Drunken Mastah from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2004-02-19 04:43 [#01080026]
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that, I surely am. i've got seven doctoral degrees in
equational microlensing in quasar clouds, and a doctoral
degree in doctoring of the doctrines set forth by the
doctoral-degree-students of the corporeal realm.


 

offline horsefactory from 💠 (United Kingdom) on 2004-02-19 04:44 [#01080027]
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Dr. Unken Mastah?

It makes sense now.


 

offline acrid milk hall from United Kingdom on 2004-02-19 04:45 [#01080029]
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but you don't like to brag, right?
in fact youre almost embarassed to bring it up.


 

offline Drunken Mastah from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2004-02-19 04:47 [#01080033]
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yes. it took me seven years to be able to tell people i won
all the nobel-prices, and that Margaret Thatcher called me
the greatest fuck ever.


 

offline Zephyr Twin from ΔΔΔ on 2004-02-19 06:42 [#01080092]
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yep, I'm aware of all that, but what I think he was asking
is that, those events happened in real time however long ago
it was (millions and millions of years probably), but since
they happened in real time all those years ago, does that
mean that when the light finally does reach us, will
we still see the event in real time? And to this my answer
was yes :)


 

offline ATSoLe from NYC (United States) on 2004-02-19 07:33 [#01080126]
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I love shit like this because science is fascinating, but I
hate articles that don't point you towards any more in-depth
reading. I think the real questions are: How long did it
take to rip apart that star? How much of it could we
actually "see"? Did we observe and record all of this
event, or did they only start observing it more closely
after shit started getting crazy? Is it essentially a
pinpoint in the sky in the center of a galaxy that flared up
x-ray activity all of a sudden? Is there anything on the
other wavelengths besides x-ray to see? How do they know
that the star was stretched? Is that part theoretical or
observed, oops, wait let me go back and read that article
again.... btw that diamond white dwarf is seriously cool.


 

offline Zephyr Twin from ΔΔΔ on 2004-02-19 09:55 [#01080337]
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I'm pretty sure they began observing it once shit started to
get crazy... the likelihood that they were actually just
staring that this particular star for god knows how long
before this happened is pretty low.. I have a feeling that
once we started picking up the x-ray emissions, we started
to pay attention. as for the star being stretched, it is a
basic property of gravity.. all objects with enough mass to
assert their gravity on other objects are stretching them...
For example, the moon is actually stretching on the earth
but it is manifested as the tides, because the stretching is
much more apparent on water (which is far more volatile than
rock).


 

offline DeLtoiD from Ontario on 2004-02-19 09:58 [#01080344]
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nice!
yeah i was watching this on TV this morning. fascinating.

reminded me of that old move "black hole"


 

offline Zephyr Twin from ΔΔΔ on 2004-02-19 10:00 [#01080351]
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you like it in the black hole.

OOOOOOH!

j/k =p


 

offline DeLtoiD from Ontario on 2004-02-19 10:03 [#01080356]
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ROFL.

mmm black hole sandwhich

;þ


 

offline Zephyr Twin from ΔΔΔ on 2004-02-19 11:03 [#01080483]
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hahah thats a good tongue face


 

offline acrid milk hall from United Kingdom on 2004-02-19 17:55 [#01081002]
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nice to see that science lost out to innuendo in the end.
:)


 

offline big from lsg on 2004-02-19 18:09 [#01081026]
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bet "þ" is an scientific significant though..


 

offline earthleakage from tell the world you're winning on 2004-02-19 18:12 [#01081034]
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you're right, its stands for þollocks we're all gonna die


 

offline acrid milk hall from United Kingdom on 2004-02-19 18:16 [#01081042]
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how do you pronounce that?


 

offline earthleakage from tell the world you're winning on 2004-02-19 18:18 [#01081044]
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something like AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA


 


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