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yes, i really do. this is before radiohead became pretentitous. |
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*is in ultra-shock* !!!oxygen, i need some oxygen!!! |
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I'll agree with you, even though some people will say they are still on it. OK was the pinnacle of Radiohead awesomeness |
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that's not sarcastic btw, i'm really surprised :) and i might add.. a little proud :P |
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i knew you were going to take it like this...didn't know how to bring it up in a less shocking way :) im glad to see you overcome it now haha |
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i like it too... sometimes i like 'kid a' too *!shock!*, and even 'amnesiac' *!shock!* but 'hail to the thief' was *shockingly* horrible in my opinion... |
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httt isn't "horrible" imo, but it is definately their weakest. each track is pretty good on it's own, but they come together pretty lack-luster. |
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i used to love kid a, i still like some tunes, and also some from amnesiac and httt. mostly those songs that are more rock oriented, they should really keep doing that instead of this artsy stuff - but appearntly this is what critics and their fans like... |
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Now come on, OK Computer is pretentious as hell, sounds downright silly. But I can forgive that because on this masterpiece, they back their shit up with awesome tunes. |
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if ok computer is pretentious, then what do you have to say about their later stuff? |
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"OK was the pinnacle of Radiohead awesomeness" couldn't agree more. |
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ok |
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Ok Computer is great. I`ve noticed that when they play the Ok Computer material live these days it doesn`t sound as passionate or as well played as their 1997-1998 period. Same applies for the Bends material. Maybe the like to concentrate on the new songs and practice and develop them more. |
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Amnesiac was the best thing they put out |
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Oh my, the derision. |
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REALLY pretentious. ;-) I still like everything they've done, I like Kid A just about as much as OK, but there's this silliness in their lyrics and everything I can't shake, a self conscious lack of humor and joy, I find it tough to swallow. I think they're brilliant though. |
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I feel so guilty now. You really put things into perspective for me. I will be nicer from now on. Sorry, everyone. I am your friend. Talk to me. |
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as far as lyrics is concerned, i agree it's pretentious. but at least music isn't as pretentious as it was on their last 3 albums. |
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please, no need to feel guilty. ok, perhaps a little |
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ok, i listened to it twice in a row. i think thats good enough for a start. :) |
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damn right... Ok Computer is awesome!! |
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now you just need to get into Autechre and I'll be happy! ;) |
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ok computer is probably my favourite album of all time. either that or endtroducing anyway. |
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kid a is my favorite album of all time. =:o |
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i recently went to a radiohead concert in atlanta, and they rocked my socks, they played songs from every album, it rocked my socks...... every part of it was as much passionate and well-played.... radiohead is timeless.... every rcok band wishes they were this good. |
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i like amnesiac and kid a the best. :) |
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one thing at the time...i'll get into autechre next year.perhaps. :) and everyone, radiohead are ok, but please, don't exaggerate. :) |
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what do you find pretentious about kid a, and amnesiac? (be as thorough in answering this question as you please) |
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after ok computer they just got deeper and deeper into experimenting with electronic sounds and it just doesn't fit them. they were clearly looking up to idm, probably just because they thought it's a cool thing to do, just so they are remembered as inovators or something. i think they are trying too hard to impress the media, critics and their fans. they got this famous for doing good rock music and they should stick with that. im constantly having this feeling they are so full of them selves they think everything they do is pure gold and by the feedback they get from their fans it obviously is :). not to say just bad things tho, kid a and amnesiac both sound alright but they're just to cheesey for my taste to take them seriously. basically it's just them thinking they're doing something breathtaking (if they wouldn't think this they would probably stop doing this kind of stuff after kid a). they're way over hyped, especially from people that have no idea what idm is, so they just think radiohead are pioneers or something, and all this hype about them got seriously into their minds. ofcourse all this is just in my head, but i can't help myself not to think that for spme reason :). anyway, this is "i like" radiohead topic os i better stop with this haha. |
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their old stuff is prime. their new stuff is also prime. they should have changed their name tho after ok computer cause the only thing that lets me know its them anymore is Thom Yorkes odd voice |
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i can definitely see what you mean... and i worry about those who don't know much about idm thinking they are insane electronic musicians or something... there's this one track in particular on httt that i'm thinking of in particular... that said, i think tracks like tree fingers, and kid a are beautiful, however uninnovative they might be... and i'd also say that a track like idioteque, wasn't that far from being an innovator itself (as far as its relation to glitch-rock type stuff which you'll find nowadays)... and ultimately, i want them to express themselves how they want to express themselves... if they really only experiment because they want to seem groundbreaking, i feel sorry for them... but i have a hard time believing, that they would slog through 3 whole albums without a sincere belief that they are doing what they are doing because they want to... ultimately, i'd say i'm only a lukewarm fan of any of their releases... they all seem pretty nice, but i don't find myself listening to them all that much... i'm glad that you were able to back your opinion up, though... because it seems, that too often, people don't have good reasons for liiking or disliking stuff... if i wasn't in the middle of readings for my science fiction course, i would now try to coerce a reason out of you as to why you agree with plaidzebra's heathen statements about the beautiful piece of art that is "tides"... i just might be forced to kill you for that... ;) |
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i agree with what you're saying 100%. except for tides haha. i have to go to work now, so i'll reply properly when i get to work (when i get the time to do so). |
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goddamn son! recognize! arovane shits gold dammut! gold!!! *speaks in tongues, does a ritual dance, attempting to summon forth a new arovane lp* |
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have you listened to The Bends tolstoyed? If you like Ok Computer you might enjoy The Bends if you haven't heard it already! |
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yes, it's alright from what i can remember actually, and i don't dislike kid a, amnesiac and httt either - im not the biggest fan, but there are some alright songs on all 3. i'll give a listen to all their albums this weekend, perhaps i'll start liking them again. :) |
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I'm totally unimpressed with Pablo Honey though |
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is ok computer like httt or more like amnesiac? and what is kid a like? |
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ok computer is the most rockish one, kid a is the most experimental one, amnesiac is experimental as well (but i only listened to it like twice, so i can't really tell) but i like it less to kid a, httt is almost back to rock style. |
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You know by definition the word pretentious is one who projects themselves to be something that they fall horribly short of achieving, and are generally just a bad characature of what they are trying to portray. Pretention usually also implies an air of pompousness about what this artist or group feels they are doing. In contrast I think Radiohead effectivly pull off the type of sound they go for with integrity, maturity and even a sense of humility. Many of their fans like what they are doing now, but I think a lot of their older fans want them to go back to fitting in better with the blur and oasis. I think with an album like httt they tried to include something for the art croud and the pop croud while still trying new sounds and styles. |
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I agree that OK Computer was one of their greatest albums, but I am also glad that they didn't try to rewrite that album instead of Kid A. A lot of the art fans think that Kid A was the album they broke through with, but I disagree. I think OK Computer is just as art as Kid A or anything after, even with the rock sensibility. |
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I own amnesiac and Httt, and i'm not sure about amnesiac, it has some great tunes, but some arent yet for my taste. And i really really love Httt, one of the best records in a long time, it has grown so much on me. So i might check out Ok Computer. And it has to be good because Q magazine said it was the best record of all time. hehe. |
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I agree that Amnesiac isn't as strong. It feels like an outtake or follow up EP to Kid A, which in some ways it kind of is. |
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Yeah, in the book of Amnesiac it says that it was recorded "at the same location at the sametime as KID A" quite special. |
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Now come on, OK Computer is pretentious as hell, sounds downright silly. word. i was afraid i would loose my good taste when i was listening to it. their worst release imo. kid a and amnesiac have good moments. same for their latest. and creep when it came out in the early nineties. |
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yall just don' know. "jibbidy jabbidy radiohead is beeduhleedobee skip bip ba doody" that's all i'm hearing. |
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jibidy jabedy jab radiojabidyheadi |
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the bends was probly their most innovative album coz they were probly not into idm when they recorded it... and there were interesting guitar moments here and there... just is shite though. was really impressed by the fst track and a few others like bullet proof. haven't listened to it for ages. |
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Hey btw OK Computer is more structured like httt, but it is very very melancholy. Has a very dream like quality in the production, like it is somehow detached or occuring slightly below present. Kid A is somewhat similar to Amnesiac and stronger as a whole. Once again Amnesiac could be considered the follow up outtake EP to Kid A. |
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i love melancholy, i might have to get OK Computer. |
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let's see if i can add anything to what i was saying in the morning. "if they really only experiment because they want to seem groundbreaking, i feel sorry for them" i'd love to know this for sure. i don't think they're doing it strictly for the fans or something, im sure they must like what they're doing, they started experimenting, they got brilliant response from people and then they just continued doing that. basically anything they release or do gets big positive response and they don't seem to mind that too much - and judging on that all this hype about them got into their heads, at least a little heheh. i have no idea why there is such a big difference in popularity compared to other bands/artists that plays simmilar stuff. let's take their more experimental side, it isn't all that different to aphex (it is to an "experienced" listener tho hahaha) and aphex is like biggest idm star and imo he could be just as popular as radiohead are, but (again imo) he's doing everything to maintain his level of popularity, he's not selling out, though if he wanted im sure he could. i remember when kid a was released (i wasn't into idm as much as i am now, not even close) i was totally blown away by it, i was playing it constantly and enjoying it very very much. then after a while i started getting into lots of other artists and i forgot about radiohead for a while. last year after couple of years i listened to kid a and it sounded totally shitty (and im being totally honest here) and i was quite shocked at how lame it sounded, especially cos i loved it once. i'll have another listen and see if i still think the same though :). about "tides" - nothing much to it really, it's the same problem i have with autechre - their music sound extremly "mechanical", cold...and i love warm, cheesey sounds :). |
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