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While a lot of Ae albums improve when listened to through headphones, I find Draft (with it's lack of stereo movement and a lot of "mono" tracks) pales in comparison compared to when listened to through nice big speakers. Track2 and Surripere (the drums) and some other tracks just don't sound as good through headphones....with more panning or stereo effects they'd work better imo. Not dissing the album here, and yes I do have a nice pair of headphones thanks. |
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i'd agree with you on the ep7 topic you made exactly like this, for different reasons, but for this i have no idea what you're talking about. |
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it is real headbanger |
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take it back to the store. |
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i disagree. but i mostly listen to it on vinyl. maybe that makes a difference. |
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i sort of agree..i would love to hear this ultra loud in a dark, empty movie theater by myself. |
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i think the best way to listen to music is to use speakers and headphones at the same time. you get all the head phucking spacial goodness as well as the gut bubbling bass treats. |
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maybe it's your headphones or just you all AE albums sound delicious to me whether on speakers or headphones |
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Maybe you should run the entire album through an auto pan. |
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either that or set up two speakers very far apart and run back and forth between them, |
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draft 7.30 is very mono sounding in general. comparitively speaking to other autechre albums, its just blatantly obvious to me. when i listen to previous autechre albums, the tracks have more stereo width. things dont have to pan in order for something to sound "stereo", draft just has this mono static sound to it when i listen to it. doesnt really mean its bad though, just something i've noticed. |
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That's what I meant disasemble. I just didn't explain it correctly. |
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aha! welp, all is well then :) |
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Draft is a piece of Crap in general. 'nuff said. |
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Or to be more specific. They've become lazy, and just like for us to pay money to listen to them wank off. Their live shows are the proof of that. And if anyone thinks I'm uninformed. You're worng. I know how they used to be quality wise. And it just doesn't show anymore. |
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In my opinion (which everyone will consider the wrong one) I think that they have become too experimental, their music doesn't even sound like anything anymore. In my opinion it went like this Incunabula - A+ Amber - A+ Tri-Repetae++ - A Chiastic Slide - B Autechre (LP5) - C- Confield - F I never bought Draft 7.30, after listening to Confield I don't think I wan't to. There are a ton of better albums I'd spend my money on. |
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Might be Noel Sommerville's mastering? Didn't they used to use that Frank geezer? Can't remember his name now. |
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i totallly agree with you on that point - but i foolishly bought the last two ae cd's only to auction them off on ebay cos i knew i'd never waste time listening to them again |
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arkwright? |
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bloody hell, it must be my birthday! |
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I don't mean to be cruel, but it's almost as if they're trying to abandon the name Autechre all together. There is no more photos or extras for them @ warp records website. And their live shows have gone completely sideways. They don't play any actual songs live anymore. It seems to me that SKAM is where their hearts are at now. Gerscom and the other projects are probably where they have their sites set. |
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apparently autechre are sueing a band for calling themselfs "ae" tossers |
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Good logic, two albums and an EP in two years shows they are abandoning the name. Spacecadet: You just made that up...they haven't said they are sueing anyone...in fact Warpmart are selling the ae album. |
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i agree with you about their live shows. theirs is the worst live show i have ever seen except for maybe four tet. but i really like draft 7.30 *shrug* |
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Hey Ecnadniarb - I was referring to the quality of the work put out under the name of Autechre. They really may be letting it go on purpose is what I was saying. You have to admit. They're really aren't creating the calibur of "music" (If you can call it that anymore) that they once did. |
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Dunno, Confield is my favourite release of theirs and I really like Gantz Graf as well. Draft had it's moments. |
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What ARE Ae like live? |
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i know people who hate the new stuff, love the old. and i also know people who hate the old stuff, and like the new. also, i know people who just flatout hate autechres music. or ones that love every bit of it. nobody is wrong here. nobody has to admit anything that you think. |
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I do think production values have faltered on Draft though, even though I quite like it. It lacks the polish of older stuff, and in places even seems thrown together, if you get me. |
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I think they are going for a grittier sound. I don't think it has anything to do with them being lazy or whatever. I am sure they could recreate the production quality of LP5 if they wanted to. Their more recent releases are difficult for some people whereas the older stuff tends to be more accessible. |
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you cant go back... you can never go back, and why should you? |
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I am loving this album more and more each listen maybe I underrated it at first when I just thought it was great |
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I'm not saying the album ain't good, it's just the flatness and mono feel that gets me. |
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not only through headphones is all I have to say on this. |
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i dont like most of autechre... |
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you guys are crazy talking shit about their live shows, and their cd's, calling them "lazy" saying that autechre don't jam live you just don't dig it, it's not your thing |
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to draft and grantz seem like a stumble to me... i believe they will bonuce back... if not there are plenty to carry the torch on |
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i havent listened to this album since i have no idea when...prbably ever since it has leaked out |
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funny how with each album less and less people like it, and say it's too much of something it's always "too much" of something, or "not enough" of something realize the patterns - and watch out, these kinds of people are also professional journalists who was that moron saying SURRIPERE had too many conga drums? yeah thats what i'm talking about |
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CFERN>> why do gantz graf and draft 7.30 seem like a stumble to you? |
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Again I'll say it, Draft7.30 is ruined by fucking cheap-o normal percussions that nobody wants to hear on Autechre albums, imho. They also like to take the piss off the listener, at mid-point during their tracks. It's the opposite of Confield. |
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Hmmm, i think this could be a transition album kind of like chiastic slide? Chiastic slide to me is very ropey in places and sounds like a band conflicted with ideas. I think maybe they are reassesing what they are doing. I have also noticed there is trend of stuff sounds draft like meam for instance, i would have to check out some of the more recent skam stuff to find out though. |
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ymenard>> you dont dig the album because they use drum samples? |
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What kind of "conflicted ideas" are you talking about, Skink |
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I think draft sounds half finished, like a bunch of sketches i also though at first listen that it was a conflict between freeform and structure and it's like they couldn't be arsed to finish up half the tracks properly or maybe i don't "get it" but the main point is as that i have the same problem with chiastic slide as well, it might mean tha the next stuff they release will be up to their previous standard. |
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well it is called draft |
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I am fully aware of that but you would of thought it being DRAFT 7 revision 30 that it might be a bit more cohesive and a bit more thoughtfully laid out, there still a couple of fucking corking tracks on there though. |
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well i was agreeing with the "half finished" part of your previous post, but about the name DRAFT 7.30 i think naming it "draft" is kind of showing us fans that its just a draft. well all of their stuff is a sort of draft anyway. |
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half finished? not at all, it's a complete album and this isn't just my opinion... like cygnus said, it's not your thing |
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i think everything from lp5 till now is perfection. |
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