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od_step_cloak
from Pleth (Australia) on 2003-12-10 07:00 [#00984741]
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OKOKOK My question is "What the fuck is the difference between a flat and a sharp?"
I mean as far as I know D# is Eb, F# is Gb etc etc etc.
Seeing as I've never had a lesson in music in my life and can barely even understand what thge fuck 5ths and 4ths are (and also I'm just plain mentally retarded), can someone give me a breif explanation?
Why aren't all notes just (letter) or (letter)#?
Oh also Pro(xy) (you guys'd probably know him too) was telling me that an F can also be called an E#. What the fuck?
Please tell me he's wrong so I can go and snicker at his beard and glasses ensemble
:D
(j/k he's a top bloke)
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big
from lsg on 2003-12-10 07:03 [#00984743]
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apparantly there's a difference when you're able to make that singing or playing violin or whatever, a D# is higher than a Eb
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japes
from Suriname on 2003-12-10 07:05 [#00984745]
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Pro(xy) is right.
As far as the flat thing goes, you can have a tune in Eb minor which is essentially the same as D# minor, they just use Eb minor because it "feels" more like E. Basically flats are complete bollocks and utterly useless.
Hope this helps.
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big
from lsg on 2003-12-10 07:06 [#00984747]
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so in germany Bb is called B and B H, that blows my mind
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Bob Mcbob
on 2003-12-10 07:08 [#00984749]
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what does Ae sound like?
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ecnadniarb
on 2003-12-10 07:09 [#00984751]
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You sandpapered your CD before you put in the player.
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od_step_cloak
from Pleth (Australia) on 2003-12-10 07:12 [#00984755]
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Well I can tell you we have a beer in Australia called EB And it doesn't taste very good - especially flat ;-)
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Zeus
from San Francisco (United States) on 2003-12-10 07:13 [#00984758]
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no. D# is not higher then Eb.
At least not in our standard tunning system.
just a different name for the same pitch.
flats are not complete bollox.
the majority of western music is based on triad structures....
for instance, a C major chord is C, E, G. All thirds away from each other.
Thats just how it is...
now, lets say you want a C Minor chord... the correct spelling is C, Eb, G. Technically, C, D#, G is the same thing... but not in terms of theory and harmonic function.
And yes, in Germany Bb is B, and B is H.
Hence Bachs "Art Of Fugue" where he spells his name in the melody, a few bars before he dies. (he died before completing the peice, but it is still performed.)
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ecnadniarb
on 2003-12-10 07:16 [#00984760]
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Yeah it's what that Zues guy said
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big
from lsg on 2003-12-10 07:16 [#00984762]
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i thought he did that a lot of times i learned it should be higher though, when it's just a choir or violin it can be. anywho the tuning we have now probably kicked it out
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od_step_cloak
from Pleth (Australia) on 2003-12-10 07:19 [#00984766]
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Yeah thanks ppl I'm slowly learneding!
Zeus - ahh nice one man, knew I could count on ya.
I guess that as long as they're a diff name for the same thing (and therefore I guess frequency wise the same thing) I shouldn't need to worry about it.
Cheers! :)
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big
from lsg on 2003-12-10 07:23 [#00984771]
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but just a interpretation sounding like little bit anywho: go here when you want to spell your name in music, i like the guys name in chromatic
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Zeus
from San Francisco (United States) on 2003-12-10 07:38 [#00984794]
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no prob :)
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