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revpersona
from Plainfield (United States) on 2003-11-11 12:58 [#00945912]
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Hmmm, where to begin here. This song by Ed Handley (Balil) is THE best Acid song I have ever heard. He took the TB-303 to a new level in this track, it's amazing how well it's done.
I normally don't like the eltist blarg that is pitchforkmedia, but when the 'Trainer' album was reviewed, he when on to mention about this song being left out. "As one skims Trainer's tracklist, two things are missing. One is a minor omission-- namely "Parasight," recorded for a Balil EP on Rising High Records, which remains one of the most emotional and compelling voyages of the Roland TB-303 to this day." I couldn't agree more there, this track takes the sound to a new level. It's also a tad reminiscent of Early-Goa, anyway if you haven't already, go listen!!
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Zephyr Twin
from ΔΔΔ on 2003-11-11 13:04 [#00945926]
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hmm, im trying to find it on kazaa but I dont think I'll be successful... =/
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plaidzebra
from so long, xlt on 2003-11-11 13:11 [#00945937]
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this track was subsequently featured on a rising high compilation (can't recall the name off the top of my head) and was also on warp's artificial intelligence II. should be pretty easy to locate.
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nlogax
from oh, you must be the brains (Norway) on 2003-11-11 13:11 [#00945939]
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it's all over slsk.
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revpersona
from Plainfield (United States) on 2003-11-11 13:20 [#00945955]
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Yeah it was on both the Rising High release and the Artificial Intelligence. I won't be too hard to find.
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Zephyr Twin
from ΔΔΔ on 2003-11-11 13:24 [#00945964]
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nlogax, who is that chick in your avatar... she looks familiar but I can't remember where I've seen her. Is it someone famous?
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Phobiazero
from the next Xltronic (Sweden) on 2003-11-11 14:04 [#00946020]
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some balil tracks
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revpersona
from Plainfield (United States) on 2003-11-11 14:07 [#00946029]
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Yep, I know all of those. Balil is one of my favorites.
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Phobiazero
from the next Xltronic (Sweden) on 2003-11-11 14:10 [#00946035]
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i'm so glad to meet people who appreciate the old-skool black dog era :)
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revpersona
from Plainfield (United States) on 2003-11-11 14:22 [#00946063]
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Oh yeah, old Black Dog is very underrated on this board, and they were huge innovators.....oh well.
Not IF I could only get my hands on some of their rare releases!
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Phobiazero
from the next Xltronic (Sweden) on 2003-11-11 14:24 [#00946067]
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what you got yourself?
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Phobiazero
from the next Xltronic (Sweden) on 2003-11-11 14:27 [#00946071]
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you dont have a "show recordbag" link you know! ;-)
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revpersona
from Plainfield (United States) on 2003-11-11 14:28 [#00946075]
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Just all of their CD releases...Bytes, Spanners, Parallel, and Temple of Transparent Balls.
I usually get around to listening to them every week, great great stuff. I'd love to get that Balil EP CD release.
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revpersona
from Plainfield (United States) on 2003-11-11 14:29 [#00946079]
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Good point....let me donate right now, I haven't gotten around to it...the FAQ will tell me how to use paypal right?
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Phobiazero
from the next Xltronic (Sweden) on 2003-11-11 14:38 [#00946103]
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i'm not sure it's covered in the FAQ (I should know tho)... but it's located in the pinned thread "PREMIUM MEMBERS..."
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revpersona
from Plainfield (United States) on 2003-11-11 14:39 [#00946108]
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Yeah, I'm working it now. I gotta go find my debit card so i can add it to the paypal account, but you'll be getting soon :]
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plaidzebra
from so long, xlt on 2003-11-11 14:56 [#00946130]
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i've never met anyone who's heard this except for the person who gave me a cd rip of the mp3, but has anyone here heard the 9 minute version of uland (only about 4 minutes), which was originally called, i believe, "island paradise"?
does anyone know if the track "island" from the parasight ep is the version from "trainer" or the nine minute version or a different track altogether?
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Phobiazero
from the next Xltronic (Sweden) on 2003-11-11 15:12 [#00946165]
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i guess it's the same 'island' on the trainer promo and on the parasight ep/cd.
didnt know a 9 min version existed? you're saying there are 9 min versions of both uland and island out there?
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plaidzebra
from so long, xlt on 2003-11-11 15:59 [#00946212]
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the track i have is identified as "island praise," but i have no other info. it is about nine minutes long, and is a different, longer version of the track called "uland" on trainer.
i have not heard "island" from the parasight ep so i can't comment.
there was a track by balil on a cassette mix from nl (i think) that had a track called "island paradise," but i haven't heard the mix so aside from the title similarity i don't know if this track is connected.
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plaidzebra
from so long, xlt on 2003-11-11 16:01 [#00946213]
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my earlier post was based on some speculation so may contain inaccuracies, sorry.
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disasemble
from United States on 2003-11-11 16:03 [#00946216]
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balil is indeed excellent.
"otaku" is great. so is flux. and everything else ive heard by him really. his mix of shambala by as one is really nice, its actually on the dial p album, "live birmingham 1995". good stuff.
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Phobiazero
from the next Xltronic (Sweden) on 2003-11-11 16:06 [#00946219]
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his mix of shambala by as one is really nice, its actually on the dial p album, "live birmingham 1995".
ooohh... interesting..... are you sure? *updating dial p tracklisting*
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disasemble
from United States on 2003-11-11 16:08 [#00946222]
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hehe. well, it says live birmingham 1995 on the cd sleeve, so its accurate. but its origin is from a remix that balil did. theres more stuff to the original mix. beginning is different. its pretty long too, very good.
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Phobiazero
from the next Xltronic (Sweden) on 2003-11-11 16:11 [#00946226]
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i'm sure..... great!
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revpersona
from Plainfield (United States) on 2003-11-11 16:11 [#00946227]
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Yes, "Otaku" is one of my favorite Black Dog tracks!
As for the Island/Uland speculation. I'm not exactly sure.....I'm listening to "Island" right now which is 7:16....and it's basically a longer cut of Uland. I mean there very well could be a 9min cut from an obscure release or a live performance...interesting.
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disasemble
from United States on 2003-11-11 16:14 [#00946229]
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uland sounds very differnet to me. almost a remake, but it definitely has influences of "island". maybe an alternate version of some sort. i also hear elements of chesh in both uland and island. melodic structures.
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revpersona
from Plainfield (United States) on 2003-11-12 11:26 [#00947364]
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Thoughts.opinions.criticism about this track?
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plaidzebra
from so long, xlt on 2003-11-12 11:50 [#00947395]
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i've temp posted a lowbitrate version of the nine minute version of "island" (which is identified as "island praise [final mix of "island" and "the whirling of spirits"]") if you want to check it out.
it's definitely not the "parasight" or "trainer" version, so it's either unreleased or is the version "island paradise" from the cassette mix (which is very obscure apparently).
i posted it to my zebox site so phobiazero could check it out, obviously it's not my track so it will only be up temporarily. if anyone wants a cd copy, they can contact me.
balil-island praise
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revpersona
from Plainfield (United States) on 2003-11-12 15:11 [#00947727]
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Nice track indeed, I love Ed's work with Balil.
I found the release that featured this song here
The thing is though, did Ed mix the track just for that release....?
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revpersona
from Plainfield (United States) on 2003-11-12 15:12 [#00947728]
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My html skills are unrivaled!!! New link
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plaidzebra
from so long, xlt on 2003-11-12 18:47 [#00948000]
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how can you confirm that the track on the cassette sampler is the same mix?
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revpersona
from Plainfield (United States) on 2003-11-12 18:54 [#00948005]
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I can only assume...there's only a 150 of those things out there, and the chance of one showing up on slsk is slim to nill. I originally misread the label of the song....hmmm perhaps some engine search on that cassette will shed some light on track timing.
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revpersona
from Plainfield (United States) on 2003-12-13 21:17 [#00990232]
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I just got my hands on two new Balil MP3s (well new in the sense I never heard them before). Both of the songs can be found on this release.
Each of the mixes in Unique, Whirling of Spirits is like a cross between the original and Choke and Fly, while the Norte Route mix is a lot different from the original and the one remix I've heard.
If anyone is interested in hearing either of those songs, let me know I can probably pop on slsk now and again.
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artemis
from Ghent (Belgium) on 2003-12-15 08:18 [#00991960]
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There are some excellent balil tracks missing on the list of phob. Try to get the ART4CD on applied rhythmic tech nology! It contains very rare balil and Kirk degiorgio mixes.
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goDel
from ɐpʎǝx (Seychelles) on 2003-12-15 08:57 [#00991983]
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ah, its good to see a thread about older black dog. nice.
phobiazero, i see you don't have the other version of nort route in the list you currently have (the version thats on art4 mentioned in this thread, which is the same version as can be found on the art ep on R&S). if you need a rip, give me a call.
speaking of rips; does anybody have a good version of the older black dog eps?
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artemis
from Ghent (Belgium) on 2003-12-15 09:39 [#00992029]
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hi godel. I can say that the mix of nortroute on the ART4CD is very different from the version on R&S.
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goDel
from ɐpʎǝx (Seychelles) on 2003-12-15 09:48 [#00992038]
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O_o.
in that case, ive heard a bad wrong rip of the version of the art4cd.
damn. anyway, i've got the original r&s ep right here, so if anybody needs...etc
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artemis
from Ghent (Belgium) on 2003-12-15 10:04 [#00992058]
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The last track of the ART4CD is also a lovely beautifull mix of "the whirlings of spirits". Also Kirk tracks like "clinincally inclined" and "Jam packed" blows up my mind!
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goDel
from ɐpʎǝx (Seychelles) on 2003-12-15 10:17 [#00992065]
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is it correct that there are 3 different versions of nort route available?
1. original version on trainer comp., intergalactic beats comp. and r&s ep.
2. mix on r&s ep 3. mix on art4cd (which is named mix4 for crying out loud)
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artemis
from Ghent (Belgium) on 2003-12-15 10:32 [#00992076]
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This is 100% correct: 1.original version: ART1 (planet E US version) and R&S(Belgian version)intergalactic beats comp. and trainer comp.,
2. Remix: on ART1(ART UK version ) and R&S(Belgian version) 3. mix4: only ART4CD As you see there are also three different version of ART1.
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goDel
from ɐpʎǝx (Seychelles) on 2003-12-15 10:37 [#00992090]
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thanks artemis for clearing that up! :)
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revpersona
from Plainfield (United States) on 2004-02-12 14:55 [#01070444]
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You foo's are missing out!
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The_Funkmaster
from St. John's (Canada) on 2004-02-12 15:21 [#01070466]
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people never have complaints about reviews that praise up the albums you love...
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