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Here's something I've been thinking about for a while. How can you stereotype IDM/drill'n'bass? Nothing in this genre of music ever seems to repeat itself very much, if at all. Even if techniques remain the same, the sounds are always 'enhanced' even if they are not particularly different (faster, cleaner, bassier what ever). Okay so I'm babbling, but I was just wondering if you guys could help me think of some IDM clichés. |
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The new Squarepusher ''full'' clip is a retread. There's tons of generic shit IDM, just like there's tons of generic shit rock and what-have-you. |
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there are a few.. but the purpose - so to speak - of this genre, fortunately, is to come up with something new .. alien / different every time .. so people are always working towards that goal.. that isn't always the sole purpose though.. |
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After listening to the briaindance coincidence, µziq and ae for the first time i was annoyed at how many songs started out funky then suddenly aquired an ambient tune in the background, now i dont notice it so much any more. |
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ophecks.. there's a full version of that song out now? |
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Beats me... I'm referring to the longer clip, 4 minutes, the ''Go Plastic''-y track. The 20 second jazzy clip... I think that one is wonderful. |
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I've always felt that µ-ziq's .. umm mu-sic was incredibly generic and like by-the-numbers idm .. like there was no charm to it at all.. just like going through the motions and copying other artists |
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oh ok.. that jazzy one is what I was referring to.. I loved that! |
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I LOVE that bass lick at the arse end of that clip, I want to hear more. If just one of them is legit... please let it be that one. As for µ-Ziq, I dunno... I find his music to be a lot of fun, and I like his production values and melodies... Royal Astronomy has a totally unique style to my ears. But I see where you're coming from, a lot of it seems a bit deriviative... last of the big names to do the drill and bass thing, apparently. |
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I felt the same about µ-Ziq... he didn#t really have much to offer at first, he still doesn't appeal to me now either. What about particular parts of the music itself?... I would have to say a drill'n'bass beat with a light melody in the background has been done to death, if you're going to take a stab at that nowadays you better have some good tricks up your sleeves to stand out. |
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man didnt you listen to tango n vectif? |
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or rude ass tinker |
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I haven't .. I confess I haven't really given him a fair listening .. there are a number of tracks by him I did enjoy.. but nothing has really grabbed me.. I'm meaning to give him a fair evaluation eventually though |
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IDM Cliché No. 1 = ridiculous titles |
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idm always has the best titles ever. look at 2 loneswordsmen's Stay Down, every track has an incredible title in my humble opinion |
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most (popular) idm is from england |
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Using strings at least once on an album. Using a Rap sample. Two words only. To have 1 or 2 tracks on an album in a massively different style to the rest. |
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I think the cliche/trap that most aspiring idm artists fall into is that they think the production needs to be all rapid/confusing and basically drillish .. you know the afx/squarepusher thing.. not too many people can do that well and if it's not done that well it's typically damn-near unlistenable.. |
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using really weird instruments bitching at people who dont "get" idm |
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I'm appauled at how the media repeatedly portrays IDM musicians as a cult of athletic fascist hill billy soccer moms. |
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i dont think my minivan helps that stereotype |
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haha |
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therre arre simply tons of them, it's just harrd to see the wood forr the trrees when you arre in the thick of the jungle. |
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sampling crazy jamacian vocals |
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bogdan radczynski sucks. |
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i second that. i downloaded samurai math beats because everyone was raving about it and it's shit. |
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whaaaat?? bogdan is good, not great.. but good |
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glitchy strings weird beats snarerush + ----------------- IDM |
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ARGH I love Bogdan IDMers are X Grungees... looking for passion in their music again |
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The artists being insular and geeky. |
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so how many more years until the notion of IDM seems dated - it's already been kicking for over 10 years - and the evolution of IDM's sound has slowed down quite a bit in the last four years or so... i mean i don't think the scene will die out - ever - for every form of music their is a clan dedicated to preserving it - but i guess that's my question When does a musical genre stop being innovative and start becoming recycled? |
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µ-ziq definitely has his own, special way with melodies. I can spot his tunes a mile off, that's how much they stand out as being original. Bogdan's good. He's got the accordian, high pitched off key singing and silly beats and stuff. Dirty, lofi, shitty wicked music. |
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i think mikey p (u-ziq) had a hand in creating the sound that we know as idm. I think its unfair to call is stuff a retread, when much of his stuff came out before this 'revolutionary' music. Also, i DO think that their is a stereotype in idm. I think artists use the same tricks a lot of the time, and also it seems to me that its almost NECESSARY to use these tricks. Tis why i love BOC,,,good melodies, and some rather simple rap beats. |
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They must also already have a mate in the industry to get signed. But this is a long term mate. |
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yeah the industry is very 'cliquey' |
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Typical interview: Yeah, Bob was running this label so he signed us. I used to make/modify my own instruments. We didn't really know what it was so we were just messing around with it, distorting things at the input stage. I used to run this little synth through loads of stomp-boxes to get a really nice sound out of it. I got it for 10 quid when nobody wanted them. Now they're like a thousand pounds. "It was mad." |
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The fans,just look at us all. Online geeks.And most of us are music-makers ourselves. |
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'I used to do all my piercings myself' You can take the IDM fan out of the council estate but you can't take the council estate out of the IDM fan. |
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Only joking Gaz. |
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Wrrong fucking thrread. I hate it when Xlt goes all fucked up and I make mistakes. |
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This board is fucking up.... I know what post you meant to post in. |
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People unwilling to share any insight into their music. Glitchy noise Sudden endings er.... |
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IDMers are X Grungees... looking for passion in their music again ...so true |
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so there's more of us? wonderful! |
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LOL @ Paco. Too true! |
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IDMers are 90% of the..... 1.Porn surfers 2.web surfers 3."kids who got beat up at school" |
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EP7 is one bit Autechre cliché. But it's good. |
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putting your face on everything |
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draw a circle on a piece of paper then stare at it for 5 minutes |
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