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Most dissapointing album/EP of the year so far?
 

offline Archrival on 2003-11-03 11:54 [#00931964]
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For me its easily Smojphace.

I think the year overall been pretty good tho.

How bout u?


 

offline Archrival on 2003-11-03 11:54 [#00931965]
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Oh I forgot the LFO lp.


 

offline nlogax from oh, you must be the brains (Norway) on 2003-11-03 11:57 [#00931976]
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uh, Spokes without a doubt.


 

offline virginpusher from County Clare on 2003-11-03 11:58 [#00931981]
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The entire Amen Andrews series.


 

offline tolstoyed from the ocean on 2003-11-03 11:58 [#00931983]
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smojphace was lame...i mean better than nothing but nothing
special either

i dont think any other artists that i like disapointed me,
actually i wasnt disappointed in smojphace either - at least
its good for my rdj collection :)


 

offline Ophecks from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2003-11-03 12:03 [#00932001]
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Smojphace will go down in history as the biggest kick in my
nuts ever, album-wise. Spokes is also disapointingly
boring.

Nothing else sticks out, it's been a really adequate year.
That's not a good thing though.


 

offline titsworth from Washington, DC (United States) on 2003-11-03 12:04 [#00932003]
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most disappointing album is yours because you never sent me
one :)

seriously though:
50 cent - get rich or die tryin'
dead prez - RBG
afx - smojphace
autechre - draft 7.30

they all could've been a lot better given past efforts..
most disappointing are definitely afx and dead prez, i've
never seen such sudden turns in artists before


 

offline aphextriplet from your mothers bedroom (United Kingdom) on 2003-11-03 12:04 [#00932004]
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damnit someone say something good about spokes, i ordered it
and it hasnt arrived yet


 

offline purlieu from Leeds (United Kingdom) on 2003-11-03 12:05 [#00932008]
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Think Tank. I absolutely love other Blur, my second or third
favourite band. I can't stand Think Tank, though. Horrible.
Thing is, I was expecting it to be pants, and yet I was
still disappointed.


 

offline titsworth from Washington, DC (United States) on 2003-11-03 12:10 [#00932023]
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ok, here i go, and i'm being completely serious: spokes is
amazing. i may change my mind later but spokes is the best
plaid album yet. it's short but every track is a banger. i
like it better than the warp albums this year from LFO and
autechre (and aphex if you want to count that). the only
warp album i liked more was the new prefuse album.

'think tank' disappointed me too after '13' but it's still
one of my favorite albums of the year. the new prince paul
and massive attack albums are mildly disappointing as well,
but both are still excellent--just very different from past
material.


 

offline Refund from Melbourne (Australia) on 2003-11-03 12:25 [#00932059]
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smojphace


 

offline Refund from Melbourne (Australia) on 2003-11-03 12:35 [#00932083]
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I actaully really like spokes,.. it manages to sound heaps
varied, whereas their last album didn't


 

offline nacmat on 2003-11-03 12:37 [#00932091]
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none


 

offline gl1tch from The Meantime (United States) on 2003-11-03 13:06 [#00932163]
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No doubt - Draft 7.30 I was utterly bummed by it.

At least with Smojphace you could expect Rich to do
something odd.


 

offline D-Steak from Kansas City, Mo. (United States) on 2003-11-03 13:09 [#00932168]
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Titsworth - is RBG really that bad????

Lets Get Free has gotta be one of the best rap albums
recorded, along with Gimini and DJ Dangermouse's Ghetto Pop
Life.

My roommate got the Dead Prez mix tape that came out a
couple weeks ago and it doesnt sound too bad.



 

offline nacmat on 2003-11-03 13:11 [#00932174]
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its strange I love draft and I like smojphace


 

offline E-man from Rixensart (Belgium) on 2003-11-03 13:22 [#00932202]
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empty the bones of you for me...

after clarence park i was probably expecting too much from
chris clark but what a let down it was...
really i wonder why everybody praises it so much, it's not
so bad but i find it uninspired and dull...

draft7.30 i like very much, tho a bit disapointed because i
expected something different, but it's very good atmospheric
music.

as for smojphace, i wasn't disapointed because i wasn't
expecting anything, it was a complete surprise
i thought rich wouldn't have gone the speedy-breakbeat route
with the bug remix, but it's really stunning what he did
with the voice and the complete lack of melody
the noise tracks are again not what i expected but after one
or two listen new patterns arise and a certain feeling of
aphexness come alive in them, making them less o_0 than the
first time i heard them


 

offline E-man from Rixensart (Belgium) on 2003-11-03 13:24 [#00932204]
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:-|
the new lfo brought me much listening plaisure...

to each their own i guess :-p



 

offline D-Steak from Kansas City, Mo. (United States) on 2003-11-03 13:34 [#00932218]
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nice pic E-man

i got that on my wall and wake up to it every mornin.

its next to my He-Man poster :D


 

offline titsworth from Washington, DC (United States) on 2003-11-03 14:29 [#00932287]
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unfortunately 'RBG' is that bad, for me. 'let's get free' is
one of the best hip-hop albums of all time, no question, so
that's why it was so disappointing that they dropped the
social commentary/expose in favor of a "gangstas with a
cause" pose. instead of talking about tons of different
topics with intelligence and passion, it's all tales of
proactive ghetto warfare or knee-jerk whitey is evil/kill
'em all hogwash. it's better than i'm describing it but i'm
gutted they dumbed down their lyrics and production (it's
1/2 produced by outsiders like kanye west, and while the
music is good, dead prez had a perfect sound) in order to
impress a lower class black audience who will mostly never
hear about them regardless because they'll never be on the
radio, BET, or MTV as long as they have a radical message
(and it's just as radical now, just more focused on what to
do about it instead of what it is).


 

offline virginpusher from County Clare on 2003-11-03 14:41 [#00932313]
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I just want to add that i was one of those folks who just
really like Draft 7.30


 

offline weatheredstoner from same shit babes. (United States) on 2003-11-03 17:55 [#00932839]
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spokes really is the best plaid to date, so if you didn't
like spokes, then that doesn't say much about their earlier
works.

most dissapointing? Tosca's Dehli 9 (disc 1) They didn't
put much effort into this release. The second disc is much
better, but its a bunch of ambient piano pieces with neat
effects.


 

offline epohs from )C: on 2003-11-03 19:45 [#00932920]
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granted i've only heard smojphace one time, it was on my
stock dell speakers at work, and it was on low volume, but
serriously i can't understand how some of you guys are
saying that you really like the noise tracks.

i'm honestly not trying to be a jerk here. i'd just like to
understand what you can 'enjoy' about listening to them.

i've heard noise tracks before, and while i didn't like most
of them i could see how someone might. but, with those two
tracks i find it a stretch even considering them music.
they sound very similar to what it sounded like when i used
to put our old TRS80 data cassettes into a stereo.

i think maybe aphex was making a statement about
the whole noise genre, or maybe it was a kind of 'fuck you'
to his fans... a sort of trolling his fanbase or something.

i don't think i've ever heard an aphex track that i actually
didn't like... he's got stuff that i don't particularly
enjoy, but i wouldn't go so far as to say i 'disliked' it...
except for those two tracks.

can a fan of kpt1 & 2 calmly and rationally explain what it
is about them that you like? i mean, if some new artist
released an album of 8 tracks like that would you go to the
store and buy them and acually listen to it in your car? if
so, what about it appeals to you?


 

offline Aphexisatwin from your mom's room (United States) on 2003-11-03 19:51 [#00932926]
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spokes


 

offline Aphexisatwin from your mom's room (United States) on 2003-11-03 19:53 [#00932927]
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it's the beauty of nature.... no matter how unnatural it
is....


 

offline JivverDicker from my house on 2003-11-03 19:54 [#00932928]
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lower class black audience? that's a bit stereotypical of
you.


 

offline titsworth from Washington, DC (United States) on 2003-11-03 19:57 [#00932930]
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do you listen to dead prez?

they've literally said in interviews they want to reach "the
hood". they're gutted that those they consider their core
audience don't know who they are.


 

offline JivverDicker from my house on 2003-11-03 20:00 [#00932932]
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Is it bad to speak the language of who you are trying to
reach?


 

offline titsworth from Washington, DC (United States) on 2003-11-03 20:03 [#00932934]
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it's not about speaking the language.. if i understand what
you're saying. the slang they use is the same but they've
completely changed directions; listen to "let's get free"
then download the vaulted/shelved "RBG" and compare. they
talked for the last couple years now about how disappointed
they were that the only people who caught onto them were
(supposedly) middle class white college students /
backpackers and that their next album would be aimed at the
ghetto.. it's not a question of phrasing, it's a complete
artistic change


 

offline JivverDicker from my house on 2003-11-03 20:07 [#00932943]
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So they've changed their approach. Is it a possitive thing
to shoot them down at this point?


 

offline titsworth from Washington, DC (United States) on 2003-11-03 20:12 [#00932951]
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are you winding me up sir? don't be bitter, the plaid album
is great but there's plenty of room in my rotation ;)

seriously though it's just personal disappointment, i'm not
shooting dead prez down. i just bought their new "mixtape"
album (paula will be bringing it, she picked it up) and i
bought the one they put out last year too. i think they're
doing themselves a disservice by dumbing down their lyrics
and their production, it's never a good idea no matter who
you think is going to suddenly latch on, BUT even doing so
they still remain dope artists i will continue to enjoy.


 

offline JivverDicker from my house on 2003-11-03 20:16 [#00932963]
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only a bit! I try hard doing my crap music, maybe it's
shit, but I like it! I'll mail you where we're recording in
a bit...


 

offline titsworth from Washington, DC (United States) on 2003-11-03 20:19 [#00932965]
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your efforts are paying off, you just need to put out more..
maybe you can set up a zebox or mp3.com.au site to post
tracks weekly? i'd love to hear some more, the last ones
were excellent.


 

offline JivverDicker from my house on 2003-11-03 20:21 [#00932971]
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I've mailed you some pics of the studio we are thinking of
going to in a bit.


 

offline JivverDicker from my house on 2003-11-03 20:22 [#00932972]
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the graffiti account


 

offline titsworth from Washington, DC (United States) on 2003-11-03 20:24 [#00932974]
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ok cool i'll check it out in a bit, i hope you have a great
time. no Guy right?

give some thought to posting demos or whatever on your
jivverdicker mp3 site, it'd be fun


 

offline titsworth from Washington, DC (United States) on 2003-11-03 20:35 [#00932991]
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it hasn't arrived yet, i'll give it another minute..

here're some mp3's you should download if they're new to
you

Pharoah Sanders - Upper Egypt And Lower Egypt
Jean Leccia Interpolation - I Worship You (solesides.com
weekly download, shadow sampled this for "building steam",
beautiful 70s ballad)
Spragga Benz - Watch What You Say


 

offline The_Funkmaster from St. John's (Canada) on 2003-11-04 01:22 [#00933226]
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Autechre - Draft 7.30

it was ok... maybe I haven't listened to it enough, but I
guess the fact that I don't have much desire TO listen to it
says a lot...


 

offline Toejam from Perth (Australia) on 2003-11-04 01:43 [#00933240]
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I've only just got into autechre.

Didn't go for Amber and Incunubula, though. My next buy will
be lp5 for sure.


 

offline The_Funkmaster from St. John's (Canada) on 2003-11-04 01:46 [#00933244]
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get amber man... it's one of their best!!

I hope you also have Chiastic Slide and Confield too...

Chiastic Slide, Amber and Confield are ym favorites of
theirs in that order probably!


 

offline Jarworski from The Grove (United Kingdom) on 2003-11-04 02:09 [#00933270]
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Spokes by a mile. People who say it's their best are not
Plaid fans. You can't be since it's hardly anything like
their earlier stuff.


 

offline welt on 2003-11-04 07:32 [#00933554]
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hail to the thief


 

offline euphonicfilter from illadelphia (United States) on 2003-11-04 07:35 [#00933565]
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tie 'tween spokes and the outkast 2cd


 

offline flea from depths of your mind (New Zealand) on 2003-11-04 07:41 [#00933572]
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26 mixes for cash
smojphace


 

offline ecnadniarb on 2003-11-04 07:42 [#00933575]
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Hmm, I dunno, I have been disappointed with a lot, but oddly
none of the releases mentioned in this thread would figure
highly on my list of most disappointing. Oddly Smojphace
was exactly as I was expecting after Drukqs, arrogance can
easily destroy an artist, and there were aspects of
arrogance all over Drukqs.


 

offline polygon_ring from somewhere else on 2003-11-04 07:45 [#00933580]
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evey album/ep disappointing in the eyes (or most precisely -
the ears) of different people. a matter of taste.


 

offline blobula from BElgraDe on 2003-11-04 07:52 [#00933586]
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spokes


 

offline JAroen from the pineal gland on 2003-11-04 07:56 [#00933591]
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SMOJPHACE!


 

offline Morton from out (Netherlands, The) on 2003-11-04 07:59 [#00933597]
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YES !


 

offline mortsto-x from Trondheim/Bodø (Norway) on 2003-11-04 08:01 [#00933602]
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Smoj!


 


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