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i just saw the new second trailer. THis film is gonna kick the shit |
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the word "shit" will undoubtedly be part of the description, yes. |
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"No" |
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Star Wars Episode III will be better, but ill also see the Matrix03, one day after my b-day November 4th, 1974, hint hint |
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*whew* i've lost all faith in lucas. i'm going to pretend that episodes 1-3 were never really made. |
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do you want us to buy you a Matrix? |
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lol after Reloaded, it can't get much worse. hopefully...... |
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you'd think that, wouldn't you..? |
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i don't need any shit tainting my return of the king experience. |
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episodes IV,V,VI,I and II have been made not III kids |
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YES ! |
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yep, i'm aware. but, after seeing the quality of episodes 1 & 2 i assume 3 is going to be equally sucktacular. so, i'm just going to pretend that none of them were released, as to preserve my undieing love for the original three star wars films (episodes 4-6). |
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They only made 4-6, I don't know what other films your on about. And yeah Matrix Reloaded and probably the new one suck, first one wan't even that good, though at least I could say it didn't suck. |
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as long as M3 is mostly ass kicking and explosions and um... robots kicking ass and blowing shit up.. and oh yeah.. punk ass inocents getting wacked.. and hmm.. uh.. guns shooting the hell out of shit... and dudes getting all filled with holes.. and maybe some more guys getting chopped with sharp things... oh and lots of computer geeks wearing dark sunglasses.. and some fine asses packed into vinyl pants.. if it has that, i will be happy. some tits would be nice too but you can't have everything i guess... sigh. |
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in the first matrix, after that first scene when trinity fucks up those cops and shit; the first time i saw it, trinity kicks that last guy in the face and my friend leans over to me and says, "this is the best movie ever made" i'll never forget that. |
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what did he say after the film? |
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FAWK YEAH |
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wawwww and you got a Kill Bill avatar too you are hype the thing i hate the most with matrix is all the other film taking it for a reference... |
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I for one am really looking forward to the third Matrix film, I thought the second one was awesome. Its released on DVD soon....it will be mine! :D |
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He said something to the effect of "that was fucking awsome" and an abundance of other exclaimations of a similar nature. nothing as memorable as his comment during the trinity fight scene though. |
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I watched the full trailer for Revolutions and it holds no surprises. They should've quit after the first one, not only because Reloaded was a pile of wank but the small amount of mystique that added to the original will be obliterated in a set of uninspired and laughable plot revelations. Oh, Neo meets the "brain" of the machines? You do surprise me. I expected something more from what I thought were groundbreaking film makers. |
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weird, i think im the only one who likes all of it. matrix I & II star wars I,II,IV,V,VI lotr I,II |
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lol same I think |
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star wars = biggest load of corporate bullshit to date |
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i think people's expectations were crazy for the matrix sequels. i mean, it's not like my mind imploded on itself and ran out my ass or anything, but seeing that neo seems to be forming an aliance with the apparant leader of his captors is a pretty interesting plot twist if you ask me. what kind of plot revelation would it take to impress you? |
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please post link to dl the new trailer |
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I loved the first one. I enjoyed the second one. Something missing there. They got too involved in their own grand ideas. Bollocks was it written at the same time. They might've written more than was in the first Matrix but bollocks was it what they filmed. I'm looking forward to the next one but only in the hope that it makes the annoyances of reloaded go away. BEst be the pay off that Silver is boasting about. I want something fucking cool to happen. I don't want it to just be good. I want it to be excellent. At the moment I'm expecting a so-so film. FUCKING DELIVER ON THE PROMISE YOU GAVE WITH THE FIRST ONE! |
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matrix rawks. End of discussion. ps new star wars films suck donkey dick. |
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so somehow, you have the inside scoop on these plot revilations? please elaborate. if it is indeed as predictable as you imply, let's have some predictions. i just think that if anyone sets themselves up to hate M3, then there is no way to go into it with an open, unbiased opinion of the movie. Lets not forget, that these essentially are action films and all of them have at least that. anything else is just frosting on the cake. i understand however, that not everybody likes the metaphorical cake, so i assume they won't go back for 3rds if they know they will hate it right? just let the rest of us eat our cake. i like cake. mmm... matrix cake... mmm |
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hows about we all just agree to disagree eh? if you think the matrix was a festering pile of ass, cool, it's a good thing that not everyone feels the same about everything. if you liked the matrix & reloaded, sweet, kick it in here and spout your geektacular thoughts on it. that seems like it'll make for a more enjoyable thread for everyone. cause, i doubt either side is changing the other's mind. |
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as I’ve said before, I’m relatively skeptical about whether or not neo is actually ‘the one’. the whole basis for the trilogy is that there is a prophecy that someone will come along who will defeat the machines and free the humans. morpheus was told he would find the one, trinity was told that she would fall in love with the one, and neo has been told that he WAS NOT the one. even though there is a small amount of doubt in my mind that the oracle can be believed, I am running on the assumption that she is telling the truth. she told neo what he needed to hear, then at the end of the first film we were lead to believe that he was the one and that she was simply playing her role. I think she was playing her part, but, I also think she was being honest when she said neo didn’t have it. neo obviously has powers that most humans do not have. this could possibly be explained a couple of different ways, one; all humans possess this potential, he is just enlightened to this fact and uses it. or two; he is a powerful anomaly in the system… just not the one. personally, I’d prefer it if it were the second. so, if neo’s not the one but somebody is, who does this leave? someone that morpheus found, and that trinity is/has been/or will be in love with. it could be agent smith/bane. I mean, morpheus found neo, and neo may’ve been responsible for freeing agent smith*. and, if smith’s power grows to the point where he destroys the matrix, and somehow doesn’t kill all the humans connected to it, he will be responsible for freeing them. I’m not sure about the whole trinity must love him thing, but it could be that she crosses over to become a bad guy (I doubt it), or maybe her and bane had some sort of fling before he was possessed by smith (kinda unlikely)… I guess we’ll just have to see. or maybe trinity is the one, since morpheus found her, and maybe part of the end game is that she’s going to |
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have to learn to love herself, or some other sentimental crap. or, maybe ‘the one’ is going to be formed by a merger of some of the characters. who knows, I’m just putting myself on the record as saying that I’m skeptical that neo is going to end up being the one. *smith mentions that ever since he was inside of neo something has changed with him. I think some of neo’s humanity, or oneness rubbed off on him. and conversely, some of smith’s program was left inside of neo, hence how he was able to destroy those sentinels in the real world. I don’t buy the whole zion is a matrix within the matrix even though it makes sense. |
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asses get kicked. It works for me |
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interesting theory. i hadn't considered Smith might be The One. i still like the idea that zion is just a holding world for programs that don't accept the matrix. they DO however accept Zion because they think it's the real world. since the oracle is part of the system it is suspicious that she would help the humans to defeat the machines. it would, however, make sense that she would help them to defeat Smith if Smith was a threat to the system. i suspect the oracle has some alterior motive like this because the end of the matrix would mean the end of the oracle. maybe The One doesn't exist at all, like Niobe suggests in the preview. It would then make more sense that the oracle is not making prophecies but rather just guessing trends in the system based on her knowledge of past versions. she then makes "prophecies" to use Neo and his companions as pawns to achieve her own ends. regardless, i'm excited for it. |
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evolume: good thinking man.. nice. see for me the 2nd one was great, I really liked it, (finally saw it last night with a friend) it had what i wanted, good story building, with action ofcourse. I cannot wait to see the 3rd one, it holds many possibilities! |
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if you can, you should try to catch reloaded on IMAX. i hear that it is going to be re-released IMAX style in some cities soon to help promote revolutions. Revolutions will be opening on IMAX here in seattle as well. |
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yeah, that's theory makes a lot of sense, but i just think that would be kindof a shitty way to end the series. in that theory zion is an error checking device for those humans who do reject the 'reality' of the matrix. a way for the machines to allow for the humans to think they've escaped, but still keep them plugged in. it would explain how neo destroyed the sentinels and how smith was able to escape. but, it would kindof make all the fighting and resistance pointless. i'm torn on whether or not to believe what the oracle says . but, i'm afraid if the w. brothers play her as a control program built into the matrix, which makes morpheus and his followers pawns, they'll have a hard time tieing up all of the loose ends in one film. and if they leave it as an open ended loop scenerio it won't fulfill the 'to be concluded' promise of reloaded. neo appears to be talking to the real controler of the matrix in the trailer. this is intriguing, because he is saying that smith has become to strong for the machines to control and that he will destroy the matrix. but, if the machines allow neo to stop smith then you have to assume the matrix will survive. if the matrix survives then chances are they'll continue to try to destroy zion... unless neo negotiates some sort of truce. if there's a truce between the matrix and zion then zion kinda becomes a bad guy, because they allow all the other humans to remain captive. and, if the machines don't stop destroying zion then either neo has to enter the mainframe or the entire matrix crashes and both sides are destroyed, or the humans win and the matrix is destroyed, and the humans re-inherit the earth. seems like a no-win situation for the poor old machines. |
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we have another great one to see in december " the last samurai" - unfortunatelly with Tom Cruise , but battle and fight scenes wil be breakin' just like Kurosawa would be reborn |
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also, if a rogue program such as smith could evolve from the matrix and destroy it and himself, what makes it so inconcievable that a program could evolve and help the humans escape, thus destroying the matrix? maybe she's the yin to smiths yang... hell, i don't know... i just really enjoy speculating about this movie really. there's another discussion going on over . actually, i've been discussing this on three other boards since reloaded came out. i've never seen one movie that generated so freakin' much talk among geeks. i'd say, for that simple fact the matrix deserves some sort of credit... good or bad. :D |
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shit, i just thought of something. what if smith gets what he wants?... he takes over every human inside of the matrix, takes control of all of the machines that are controlled by the matrix, and destroys zion! he'll in a sense be the only living thing on earth. one fucking huge self sufficient organism. hell... i hope he wins. |
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yeah but they'll never end a movie like that in hollywood. even if they are pawns, i'm sure it will end up with Neo doing something that nobody expected him to be able to do and saving the day. i'll check out those other forums. thanks for posting the link, i was actually looking around today for decent matrix discussions (besides here of course). |
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i'm looking forward to the last samurai as well. i can't hate tom cruise, he's been in a few that i have really liked including Magnolia, and can't forget Top Gun baby. |
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Of Neo is, as they say, a reincarnation then surely it's possible that Trinity nad Morpheus are too. That means that when the Oracle told them what he did then she was telling the truth. It's just not relative to them currently. Neo is a true anomaly to the system and isn't really the one. |
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well, here are some discussions that began right after reloaded was released. they're all pretty good, but they're kinda long. |
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