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BlatantEcho
from All over (United States) on 2003-07-12 17:50 [#00776212]
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I really involved you all in the start, mid point, and what is pretty much the end of the best relationship of my life.
Therefore, I feel you all can comment on how it all fell apart. I sent this too her today, and I sorrow filled me, but the that last line is what I learned......
------------ I wish I was adept at explaining my emotions and state without getting all
weird.
In any event, if you're just going to call to catch up after not talking to
me for a week, don't bother, I hate being treated that way.
If you want me, to talk to, to have me there to talk to, fine. I just can't
handle you coasting through a friendship with me, touching base when you
feel like it, while I do all I can, all the time, to be the best thing for
you, friend or foe.
I shouldn't even bother with you, with the way you treat me, you don't
deserve a guy like me. Yeah, I don't know what to say either.
Unfortunately, I'm still stuck between the never and the now, as my brain
won't slit my wrists to bleed the affection my heart still has for you.
George
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BlatantEcho
from All over (United States) on 2003-07-12 17:51 [#00776214]
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sorry about the typos at the top, I'm kind of a mess.
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eXXailon
from purgatory on 2003-07-12 17:53 [#00776220]
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Fuck, this is not THE girl!?!?!
How did all this happen?!
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BlatantEcho
from All over (United States) on 2003-07-12 17:53 [#00776221]
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with a little bit of thinking, I don't make the mess better my making it public now do I?
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2003-07-12 17:54 [#00776224]
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okay. I think it's fine that you talk about your feelings and your worries on the board - posting last letters to girlfriends is crossing a line, though.
that really is between you and her.
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BlatantEcho
from All over (United States) on 2003-07-12 17:55 [#00776228]
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fair enough, delete the topic, just trying to end what I started with you all
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IDn 4 Lyfe
from Yakao (Argentina) on 2003-07-12 17:56 [#00776230]
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i 'GREE matey.
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BlatantEcho
from All over (United States) on 2003-07-12 17:59 [#00776237]
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welp, that's sucks huh?
i drew all the strength to ask this girl out from you guys, I really did.
I consider the lot of you friends. This is the internet, sure, but I feel like you guys have been there for me.
If this crosses some line, then fuck me, I tried real hard to not make it personal against her, and it really isn't, it's how I feel.
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ecnadniarb
on 2003-07-12 18:00 [#00776239]
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You should just have written on a bit of paper
Bitch I don't want you no more, and your mum is a MUCH better fuck than you are (your dad isn't too bad either)...
Llaters Bitch Love George xxx
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BlatantEcho
from All over (United States) on 2003-07-12 18:01 [#00776240]
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"Unfortunately, I'm still stuck between the never and the now, as my brain
won't slit my wrists to bleed the affection my heart still has for you."
----------- I alluded to the brain fighting the heart in another thread.
Oh well, sorry I posted something to personal. feel free to delete at will.
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eXXailon
from purgatory on 2003-07-12 18:05 [#00776250]
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I refer to my second question in my previous post...
I thought things were working out OK between you two? Have I been missing that much???
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BlatantEcho
from All over (United States) on 2003-07-12 18:10 [#00776254]
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first off, thanks for actually giving a shit, I don't get angry often, but yeah, appreciate it.
She just went away this summer, and it all fell apart. I thought things were patched up, but deep down there was, and still is love, but my brain knows this doesn't work.
We agreed to be cool friends for a while, see how it went, but I couldn't take the lack of caring or compassion.
I couldn't handle one e-mail a week. I said I'd just leave her alone, and she didn't like that, I don't know, I really wish it could be all heart, but unless something fundamental changes about the way she treats me and the way I think of her in that regard, this is prolly it.
we'll see what she says in reply, if she bothers.
------------- again, this isn't a personal thing against her, like I said, I still love her very plainly, but it's a personal thing for me to talk about it. No roomates her, no friends around, and I have to be in the library all weekend, this is my only outlet.
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uzim
on 2003-07-12 18:11 [#00776256]
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fuck love... T_T
why can't we all just be friends and love everyone really without all those heartbreaks?? =(
everyone i know who is/was in a love relationship suffers...
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BlatantEcho
from All over (United States) on 2003-07-12 18:14 [#00776257]
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would that work?
it'd be great if it did, but I don't think it could.
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eXXailon
from purgatory on 2003-07-12 18:17 [#00776260]
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What a fucked up thing to do of her....
I really thought you two were perfectly happy together. I wasn't aware of this. Sorry to hear this, man.... :((
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uzim
on 2003-07-12 18:20 [#00776263]
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no, of course it cannot work... sadly.
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BlatantEcho
from All over (United States) on 2003-07-12 18:21 [#00776265]
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no no, I don't really blame her, I mean, I guess it wasn't meant to work.
again, I don't mean for this thread to bash my gf, I do care about her.
I just want to get off my chest the stuff that fucked with my head.
It sucks when you know you prolly can't be with someone you love, that is all I am trying to say......
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ecnadniarb
on 2003-07-12 18:24 [#00776267]
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You are reading too much into your relationship, relax and have fun.
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eXXailon
from purgatory on 2003-07-12 18:25 [#00776268]
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Very much so....
Relationships can fuck you up just as much as they can make you happy. Fucking shame it didn't work out, especially seeing as you two have been happily together for quite a while now I believe...
Again: sorry to hear this :(
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Jedi Chris
on 2003-07-12 18:25 [#00776269]
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You take care of yourself mate! :(
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ecnadniarb
on 2003-07-12 18:28 [#00776270]
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Sorry I can't be like these knob jockeys...you just need to pull yourself together and get on with shit. There is more to life than a girl not talking to you for a week...maybe you were expecting too much from her and it is you with the problem.
So before you start saying she is not good enough for you, perhaps you should take a look at yourself.
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drummond
from coffee, ahh, a burger, ahh on 2003-07-12 18:31 [#00776272]
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writing a letter is such a cop out, tell it to her in her face
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xceque
on 2003-07-12 18:33 [#00776274]
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I think perhaps you need to find a bit of room in your view on people to accept that different people can feel differently about things to the way you do. You might think he's in need of a life and to you it's all a laugh, but clearly not to him.
You don't have to be a knob jockey, just have a little empathy :) and tolerance. A bit of leeway in life isn't a bad thing.
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xceque
on 2003-07-12 18:36 [#00776276]
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oops, that came out a bit more harsh than I intended. Sorry :)
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eXXailon
from purgatory on 2003-07-12 18:36 [#00776277]
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actually, it didn't
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Jedi Chris
on 2003-07-12 18:37 [#00776279]
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agreed
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ecnadniarb
on 2003-07-12 18:39 [#00776280]
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I didn't mean he was a knob jockey...I meant the others :)
I don't think he needs a life either, I just think it isn't good to get yourself really down about stuff and then have a load of people sympathising which can make things work.
I am too drunk to carry on with this self justification.
btw, I am a trained hostage negotiator so I think I should know a little about talking people off roofs.
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ecnadniarb
on 2003-07-12 18:43 [#00776282]
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It wasn't harsh it was nicely put and made me think for a minute about my actions. :D!
I would offer you a beer if this wasn't the internet, coz the last time I offered someone a beer my sdcreen had to be replaced.
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xceque
on 2003-07-12 18:46 [#00776284]
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I could try and create an XML schema for beer, but I don't think it would serialise.
And if you don't understand that, I envy you.
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ecnadniarb
on 2003-07-12 18:50 [#00776291]
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Sadly I do given that I am actually in the middle of project involving the conversion of DTD to schemas and then the extension of the schemas to cover more of the data which has to be transferred from a proprietary format on some shitty old Bull Mainframes running under VAX :(
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Oddioblender
from Fort Worth, TX (United States) on 2003-07-12 19:04 [#00776314]
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sorry to hear that blatantecho. but look on the bright side, sometimes things happen for a reason, as painful as they may be. :-D
i.e. For instance, if i had not been broke up with at homecoming, i would have never met the girl who i lost my virginity to. True story.
From every tragedy in our lives, we learn a lesson.
Here's a good quote to keep you going: "Strength does not come from physical excess; it comes from an indomitable will." - Mohatma K. Gandhi
Stay strong!!
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Oddioblender
from Fort Worth, TX (United States) on 2003-07-12 19:05 [#00776315]
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sorry to hear that blatantecho. but look on the bright side, sometimes things happen for a reason, as painful as they may be. :-D
i.e. For instance, if i had not been broke up with at homecoming, i would have never met the girl who i lost my virginity to. True story.
From every tragedy in our lives, we learn a lesson.
Here's a good quote to keep you going: "Strength does not come from physical excess; it comes from an indomitable will." - Mohatma K. Gandhi
Stay strong!!
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Oddioblender
from Fort Worth, TX (United States) on 2003-07-12 19:06 [#00776317]
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crap i doubled! fuck me in the earhole!
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xceque
on 2003-07-12 19:06 [#00776318]
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Perhaps later
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2003-07-12 19:13 [#00776326]
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NO! now!
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Oddioblender
from Fort Worth, TX (United States) on 2003-07-12 19:14 [#00776328]
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wooo-hooo!
*gets on his sombrero and grabs some whale oil*
pound away!
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The_Funkmaster
from St. John's (Canada) on 2003-07-12 19:15 [#00776329]
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that Gandhi chap really was a smart guy!! :)
man, I know exactly how you feel, trying to push down stronger feelings to try and be friends... maybe you should've just talked to her first about how you couldn't seem to be just friends, and then seen how she replied... I don't know though... the best of luck with everything from this point on... and yes, everything does happen for a reason... think about that, and try to be positive... you'll meet someone else, and you'll be better prepared for her because of this relationship you just had... you're a wiser person now, and a stronger one too...
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The_Funkmaster
from St. John's (Canada) on 2003-07-12 19:16 [#00776332]
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oh, and in reply to uzims post... well yes, it would be nice if there was no heartache in the world from this sort of thing... if we were all just friends, and never tried anything else we'd all be happy... yes, but you would never feel greater happiness that love can bring... sometimes you have to risk pain and heartache to find that greater happiness... it's a risk we all just gotta take!
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Oddioblender
from Fort Worth, TX (United States) on 2003-07-12 19:17 [#00776334]
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WHHHHHAAAAAAAATTTTTTTT????
*can't hear because his earhole is busy*
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eXXailon
from purgatory on 2003-07-12 19:18 [#00776336]
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:D
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Oddioblender
from Fort Worth, TX (United States) on 2003-07-12 19:19 [#00776337]
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But seriously, well put Mr. Funkmaster!
You can always learn from defeat. It makes you stronger. Just like Ryu! Whenever this Street Fighter gets defeated, he takes it as a sign he needs more training..... oops.
My nerd escaped again. Excuse me.
*throws nerd back in cage and takes a cattle prod to it*
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The_Funkmaster
from St. John's (Canada) on 2003-07-12 19:20 [#00776338]
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what? me confused!
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Jedi Chris
on 2003-07-12 19:21 [#00776340]
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Ryu doesn't loose that many fights when in the right hands! :D
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2003-07-12 19:29 [#00776344]
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...almost.......done......urgh...
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Smyrma
from Beloit, WI (United States) on 2003-07-12 21:17 [#00776384]
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BlatantEcho: Good luck getting through all this. I know times like this can be tough. My advice to you is just to be honest. Yeah, maybe you've heard that a thousand times already, but in my experience, trying to disguise how you feel just fucks everything up way worse than it would've been if you were honest about everything.
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ymenard
on 2003-07-12 21:23 [#00776390]
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Just load up "Time out of Mind" by Bob Dylan. It will cure all your problems.
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Oddioblender
from Fort Worth, TX (United States) on 2003-07-12 21:41 [#00776411]
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of course Ryu doesn't lose that many fights. I meant, Ryu, as a person, a character, if he lost a fight, he'd train harder to win next time.
I.E. In SFAlpha II, if you beat him with Sakura, he believes that he must then train even harder! :-D
I am quite the Ryu fan... but watch out for me if I'm using old-school Vega/Bison (not pussy-ass ALpha bison)
cause my pyscho crusher scissor kick flying psycho fist will dismantle all you fucks.
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The_Funkmaster
from St. John's (Canada) on 2003-07-12 22:06 [#00776429]
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Mmmm, I used to love Street Fighter... I'm a Ken man myself... the same moves as Ryu, except that his uppercut thing was a flaming one...
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LeCoeur
from the outer edge of the universe (United States) on 2003-07-12 22:26 [#00776447]
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well BE i'm sorry about the apparent? ending to this relationship, but it's your first and not everything in life has a happy ending. =/
some things to think about.....take it as you will, but i've always been HONEST with you about these things and sometimes honest things are not what one wants to hear at this point...however
i agree with whoever said letters are a COP out, if you can't stop playing games long enough to CALL her yourself (no matter that she didn't call you for a week) and end it over the phone or in person that says something about this relationship RIGHT there. it seems like you've just coasted along and handed the reins over to her.....in any relationship you should have EQUAL say in things, however it seems to me from WHAT YOU'VE WRITTEN that she is the one with all the say so....very bad position to be in. also that letter was.....i dunno....if i received it from a boyfriend/friend.....i would RUN in the opposite direction, not towards the person. again thats my REACTION to it.
secondly....life is not easy, or fun, or beautiful or wonderful all the time. without the bad how would we know how GOOD things can be. life/birth is not without pain.....so it goes to say that everything in life has it's equal an opposite reaction. it's what we LEARN from the pain and the joy that makes life better.....so remember that! no one likes mediocrity in anything....certainly not in relationships.
thirdly, and again it's from what i've seen on this MB only......you don't seem to react to things in a moderate way. it's ONE EXTREME to another....you need to calm down and find some PEACE within yourself. you usually jump towards the more NEGATIVE side of things, than the positive, but having those extreme mood swings isn't good for you or any relationship.
fourthly...you need to not put all this pressure on the person you're dating for your OWN happiness. you need to be responsible for that. it seems like everything is riding on this relationship? what about your other friendships,
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LeCoeur
from the outer edge of the universe (United States) on 2003-07-12 22:28 [#00776450]
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do'h too long.....damn i'm wordy. lucky for me i copied it before hitting reply......so continued....
fourthly...you need to not put all this pressure on the person you're dating for your OWN happiness. you need to be responsible for that. it seems like everything is riding on this relationship? what about your other friendships, your sailing, etc....you should take comfort from those, however while dating you should always have those things around to have OTHER things in your life than just a romantic relationship. you have to bring INTERESTING things to your relationship....it keeps things FRESH and ALIVE...the only way you can is by having OUTSIDE interests that may NOT include her. my bf doesn't like everything i do, and vice versa.....and you shouldn't. you should let her be her own person and you the same, that way you aren't bored around each other, and it is less obssessive. seems like to me you've been putting all your eggs in ONE basket.....and when the basket falls to the ground, everything in your world is crushed. thats a lot of responsibility you've put on someone elses shoulders, and it's not fair to her or yourself.
i could say more, but it's along those same lines. i hope it doesn't make you feel worse or freak out, but you need someone to be honest and tell ya that the choices we make are not always the right ones, and hopefully we learn from those mistakes. there will be other girls, and other experiences in your life that will waiting for you out there in your future....remember while you felt she was perfect for you, you may not have been what was perfect for HER. two sides to every coin.
good LUCK!
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