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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2003-07-02 05:01 [#00764757]
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Anyone tempted to vote conservative by the 80mph motorway limit and the removal of speed cameras from everywhere except accident blackspots?
Gotta admit it's making me give it some serious thought...
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WeaklingChild
from Glasgow (United Kingdom) on 2003-07-02 05:04 [#00764762]
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WHOAH!!!!! Thats amazing!!!!! I'll never vote those assholes in though....
Maybe i should just take to the streets with an axe and remove the cameras myself!!
I'll be a national hero!
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hanal
from k_maty only (United Kingdom) on 2003-07-02 05:04 [#00764763]
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motorways should have xtra lanes were you can drive like a twat at stupid speeds intill death,or failing that 80 sounds good
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WeaklingChild
from Glasgow (United Kingdom) on 2003-07-02 05:07 [#00764770]
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yeah. :D
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lizardfister
from rainy manchester (United Kingdom) on 2003-07-02 05:08 [#00764773]
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everyone drives at 80 on the motorways anyway and the police don't give a shit unless you go over 90.
the camera thing is a good idea though.
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hanal
from k_maty only (United Kingdom) on 2003-07-02 05:10 [#00764776]
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hows the weather been in madchester ill be back there in two weeks
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2003-07-02 05:23 [#00764793]
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I personally reckon it should all be 90, but you get busted for doing under 60 (unless you're a lorry or there's an accident/heavy traffic), but you get busted the second you go over 90.
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lizardfister
from rainy manchester (United Kingdom) on 2003-07-02 05:27 [#00764800]
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the same as ever... brilliant one day and you think summer is finally here. then absolutely shit the next and you think its going to rain forever.
then its brilliant again and you think......
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lizardfister
from rainy manchester (United Kingdom) on 2003-07-02 05:28 [#00764802]
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we will welcome you back with open arms whatever the weather.
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lizardfister
from rainy manchester (United Kingdom) on 2003-07-02 05:30 [#00764804]
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i think generally that people should get banned more often and more easily for driving too fast, too slow or just plain badly. if you are dangerous on the roads you are a danger to others. BAN THEM ALL!!!!!
end of rant.
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hanal
from k_maty only (United Kingdom) on 2003-07-02 05:34 [#00764806]
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here here,and cheers i cant wait to get back-a night out in manchester is what i need-
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2003-07-02 05:34 [#00764809]
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I think people who drive slowly on the motorways cause a lot of accidents- people who do 60 in the outside lane and force people to overtake on the inside are a hazard, as are people doing 50 in any lane... People who don't understand how to use roundabouts/indicate on them should get banned too.
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giginger
from Milky Beans (United Kingdom) on 2003-07-02 05:51 [#00764826]
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The speed limit used to be 100 in England until the war. Then it was dropped because of petrol rationing. I didn't think cars went that fast then but there you go. So it's hitlers fault that you have to drive slowly
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Jedi Chris
on 2003-07-02 05:58 [#00764833]
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As a law abiding citizen who NEVER breaks the speed limit :P I don't think are enough speed cameras. Hehehhe
I would certainly not vote for conservative based on the fact that they'd allow us to drive faster on the motorways. What you'd find is, that they'd screw you over on something else.....road tax, city tolls, parking rates. You cannot win either way - its like everything. Things are given with one hand, and taken with the other.
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ecnadniarb
on 2003-07-02 06:37 [#00764861]
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conservatives are liars...if you voted them in they would forget everything they promised...pretty much like Labour has this time. Besides when I break the speed limit it is normally with half a dozen police cars behind me anyway, so speed cameras don't arse me too much :D
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giginger
from Milky Beans (United Kingdom) on 2003-07-02 06:39 [#00764863]
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Ceri, I'd like you to notice that ecnadniarb's avatar is not me! It's Ron from Harry Potter you git.
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manicminer
from Paris (France) on 2003-07-02 06:40 [#00764865]
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I wouldn't vote Conservative even if they offered immunity from prosectution for speeding for all those who voted. Or even if they offered me a free car for voting.
Plus I don't think it's a good idea to remove speed cameras. I think there should be more of them. I'm sick of selfish, stupid wankers driving ridiculously fast and putting other people's lives in danger. Anything that discourages them has got to be a good thing. If you want to drive fast, go and use a race track
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Peloton
from London (United Kingdom) on 2003-07-02 06:45 [#00764867]
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Jesus! You're tempted to vote for those fascist fear-mongering oiks just because of that!!?
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2003-07-02 07:00 [#00764876]
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You must admit it's a striking resemblance! :P
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smokehammer
from Saigon (Vietnam) on 2003-07-02 07:08 [#00764887]
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I'm thinking of voting conservative if they scrap the minimum wage, benefits, pensions, human rights, the welfare system and the NHS . Until they vow to bomb Europe they can't really expect to be taken seriously by the electorate.
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2003-07-02 07:14 [#00764891]
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"minimum wage, benefits, pensions, human rights, the welfare
system and the NHS"
I would too if they scrapped those but dropped income tax by 50%.
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Peloton
from London (United Kingdom) on 2003-07-02 07:18 [#00764895]
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And their election slogan would be...
'Private affluence, public squalor'
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smokehammer
from Saigon (Vietnam) on 2003-07-02 07:26 [#00764898]
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yes, the advocacy of slavery needs to be re-incorporated into politics after decades of political correctness.
The tories need to get their act together and return this country to the good old days when the rabble knew their place and toiled without want before their master.
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2003-07-02 07:26 [#00764899]
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You considered joining them? :D
Seriously though, I think their policies on: private healthcare "top up fees", reduction of speed cameras and university loans are very sensible.
And I'm all for abolition of the Human Rights act in this country... we pretty much have the more important acts of them in place already- as a lawyer I know put it, "It's a fucking waste of time in civilised countries like this, the only use of it really is for barratry."
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smokehammer
from Saigon (Vietnam) on 2003-07-02 07:40 [#00764919]
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"I'm all for the abolition of human rights in this country"
we need more lawyers standing up and saying things like this. Maybe our lily-livered namby-pamby leaders will one day take notice and the good old gallows can take pride of place on village greens once again should anyone dare step out of line.
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Loogie
from Oxford (United Kingdom) on 2003-07-02 07:46 [#00764928]
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the 70 mph limit on derestricted roads inc motorways was not introduced until 1967.
the cause was apparantly an AC Cobra clocked at > 160 mph on the M6.
we all have that driver to thank.
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jonesy
from Lisboa (Portugal) on 2003-07-02 07:57 [#00764937]
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Canvassing again Ceri?
These cunts haven't got a clue. Their problem is that the New Labour have stolen their right wing, qausi-facist thunder and they can't come up with anything to get the votes. So they come up with these half-arsed policies.
If I wanna drive at 80 I'll drive at 80. I don't need a bunch of twats in suits to give me permission.
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2003-07-02 08:01 [#00764940]
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We still have (admittedly outr last)working gallows on Portsmouth naval base.
With regard to the aspects of the human rights act I was talking about:
In Bristol there is a particular problem with "aggressive beggars", there are several (about 5 that I recognise) beggars who threaten and intimate people, following them and suggesting violence or reprisals if they don't give them money. Quite rightly, this is seen as a public nuicance when you have to walk past them to get to the shops or work (recent experiments showed that on average crossing the bristol town centre you would be stopped by 7 beggars on average). As a result, beggars who people repeatedly complain about (not all) are banned from the town centre by a new bye law introduced. A 3 or so of the beggars have taken a court action (naturally, at the tax payers expense as they can't afford their own legal representation)
under the new human rights bill claiming it's a violation of their human rights. It won't work, it's simply barratry and 2 fingers at the establishment. Naturally you and I are paying for this...
We live in a democracy- the majority of people in Bristol (even many comparatively liberal ones...) do not want them in the town centre. So why should they be allowed to go there?
Loogie: Yeah the AC cobra was a mental car, my ex's neighbour still had one, best described as a 4 wheel superbike- huge oversized engine with a tiny passenger compartmant and 4 wheels on it basically.
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Peloton
from London (United Kingdom) on 2003-07-02 10:31 [#00765113]
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1998 Human Rights Act
Right to Life (article 2) Protection from torture and inhuman or degrading treatment or punishment (article 3)
Protection from slavery and forced or compulsory labour (article 4)
The right to liberty and security of person (article 5) The right to a fair trial (article 6) Protection from retrospective criminal offences (article 7)
The protection of private and family life (article 8) Freedom of thought, conscience and religion (article 9) Freedom of expression (article 10) Freedom of association and assembly (article 11) The right to marry and found a family (article 12) Freedom from discrimination (article 13) The right to property (article 1 of the first protocol) The right to education (article 2 of the first protocol) The right to free and fair elections (article 3 of the first protocol)
The abolition of the death penalty in peacetime
You'd scrap these because of a hand full of beggars? The words nut and sledgehammer spring to mind.
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Loogie
from Oxford (United Kingdom) on 2003-07-02 10:36 [#00765123]
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shame the new one is so shite :(
that's a good gimmick from the torries, i like that. tony will probably follow it up with an offer of raising the limit to 85
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xigoo
from United Kingdom on 2003-07-02 11:09 [#00765155]
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the conservatives have shown themselves up again. they are just trying to make the right noises so they can get votes.
they are right wing asshols through and through, i hope the public don't fall for the empty promises
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earthleakage
from tell the world you're winning on 2003-07-02 11:16 [#00765164]
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id NEVER vote tory even if they paid me.
but yeah the 70mph limit is out of date you gotta drive to the conditions. unfortunately most drivers don't undestand the premise of this and therefore increasing the speed limit would probably encourage more lunatics rather than help. we nearly hit a car on sunday on the motorway it was doing 45 mph, stupid fuckwit.
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earthleakage
from tell the world you're winning on 2003-07-02 11:18 [#00765166]
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IDS is a nightmare. labour have been getting away with what the fuck they like for too fucking long. blair isn't a great orator but IDS is pathetic. i could destroy him in 10 seconds.
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danbrusca
from Derbyshire (United Kingdom) on 2003-07-02 11:26 [#00765176]
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Yeah, I agree with that. There's no ideology to the Tories these days, it's just jumping on policies they think will be popular with target sets of voters.
In a way, I guess it's good that they're actually offering people what they want, to a degree, but their motivation is simply to get elected, not to actually effect any meaningful change.
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Flipered
from London (United Kingdom) on 2003-07-02 11:51 [#00765196]
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Tories, labour there all the same shite at the end of the day, and lib dems won't make it without paddy pantsdown, So if tories let me drive faster, and help my uni funding, then hell yes i'll vote for them and abuse my selfish rights
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xigoo
from United Kingdom on 2003-07-02 12:20 [#00765228]
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they may be offering the mojority of people what they want, but as sure as eggs are eggs they will come up with 1001 excuses why it can't be done (just remember labour used every excuse under the sun why they could not meet their manifesto pledges)
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