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offline jonesy from Lisboa (Portugal) on 2003-06-19 07:39 [#00747540]
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/music/2999780.stm


 

online dariusgriffin from cool on 2003-06-19 07:44 [#00747545]
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Clic.

The fun never stops !


 

offline handoverthecart on 2003-06-19 07:45 [#00747547]
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holy shit, i don't know anything about the laws, but i'm
sure that destroying someones computer for an mp3 file is
illegal. that seems like blowing up a kids house because he
stole a candy-bar or soemthing.


 

offline regital from Baltimore (United States) on 2003-06-19 07:46 [#00747549]
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Utah... Figures.


 

offline Ceri JC from Jefferson City (United States) on 2003-06-19 07:47 [#00747553]
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Ha ha, he's a composer himself. Talk about vested
interests!

I'm not worried- I know the good guy hackers will come up
with something that can circumvent anything the evil
government dorks can come up with :D


 

offline Ceri JC from Jefferson City (United States) on 2003-06-19 07:53 [#00747559]
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Ah yeah Jonesy, watched "Once upon a time in the Midlands"
last night, Shane Meadow's film. Really enjoyable, I don't
normally rate films with soppy "feel good" endings, but this
was class.


 

offline jonesy from Lisboa (Portugal) on 2003-06-19 07:56 [#00747566]
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I was disappointed with it. It was a bit Full Monty.


 

offline uzim on 2003-06-19 07:59 [#00747571]
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he looks in a petulant frenzy.
i'd expect him to peel off his fake skin anytime and uncover
his horrifying alien body, and kill everyone.


 

offline tibbar from harrisburg, pa (United States) on 2003-06-19 08:01 [#00747576]
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hahahahahaha he DOES look like he wants to kill everyone on
the board!!!!


 

offline titsworth from Washington, DC (United States) on 2003-06-19 08:14 [#00747599]
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this shit is crazy!!!!


 

offline corrupted-girl on 2003-06-19 08:15 [#00747603]
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oh man.


 

offline Xanatos from New York City (United States) on 2003-06-19 08:23 [#00747618]
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"If we can find some way to do this without destroying their
machines, we'd be interested in hearing about that," Mr
Hatch said.

"If that's the only way, then I'm all for destroying their
machines."

He sounds like Sarah Connor in the mental hospital at the
beginning of T2


 

offline lizardfister from rainy manchester (United Kingdom) on 2003-06-19 08:25 [#00747619]
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idiots like this are in charge of the most powerful nation
in the world? there is no hope.


 

offline Anus_Presley on 2003-06-19 08:26 [#00747622]
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HARRRRRRRRRRRRRRR hahahaha if they rruin my computerr i will
get a plane ticket and stab him and all involved in the
neck. hahahahah motherrfuckerrs


 

offline Dinosaur from United Kingdom on 2003-06-19 08:28 [#00747624]
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how in the hell are they gonna know the difference between
my legal mp3s (ones I made from my own store bought cds) and
the ones I've dled from slsk.
???



 

offline corrupted-girl on 2003-06-19 08:29 [#00747626]
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it's like putting crack in a fruit bowl in every office and
wanting to distroy the people who touch it.


 

offline Anus_Presley on 2003-06-19 08:30 [#00747629]
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they won't.
they shoot firrst and ask questions laterr.
cunts


 

offline Dinosaur from United Kingdom on 2003-06-19 08:39 [#00747646]
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my mate made a good point:

"I wouldn't be saying I'm gonna destroy the Notis' (Nerds of
the Internet) PCs.. The first f'in place they need to start
w/ to fight piracy is China and Russia. The amount of media
stolen by those two countries alone is far worse than all
the US downloaders combined X 10................."


 

offline Dinosaur from United Kingdom on 2003-06-19 08:40 [#00747649]
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don't know if I totally agree, but there's def a prob with
software piracy in china.


 

offline manticore from London (ON) (Canada) on 2003-06-19 08:41 [#00747651]
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"There's no excuse for anyone violating copyright laws "

- Senator Orrin Hatch

"There's no excuse for circumventing international treaties
and invading other countries without the consent of the UN"

- The World outside of the U.S.


 

offline JAroen from the pineal gland on 2003-06-19 08:42 [#00747658]
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whats next... linking scud rockets to your IP adress?


 

offline lizardfister from rainy manchester (United Kingdom) on 2003-06-19 08:43 [#00747659]
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word.


 

offline Ceri JC from Jefferson City (United States) on 2003-06-19 08:43 [#00747660]
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s'true, russia, china and the mediterranean countries steal
sooooo much media it's unreal. Crack down on them before you
have a go at the people who have a small proportion of their
music collection illegally...


 

offline JAroen from the pineal gland on 2003-06-19 08:45 [#00747667]
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us government are fucking power hungry hypocrites

chew on my asshair orrin hatch!


 

offline Anus_Presley on 2003-06-19 08:46 [#00747668]
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is it a crrime forr me to click "yes" and forr me to d/l a
file that someone rripped and made available to me?
if it is, i think its stupid.


 

offline manticore from London (ON) (Canada) on 2003-06-19 08:49 [#00747672]
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i think what we really need is an all-out nuclear holocaust.
in this way the world will be rid of all its problems,
including, but not limited to, internet piracy. =)


 

offline JAroen from the pineal gland on 2003-06-19 08:49 [#00747673]
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plah they should make cds cheaper... fucking music
industry.. and if it wasnt for soulseek and all id never buy
as much cds as i do now


 

offline tibbar from harrisburg, pa (United States) on 2003-06-19 08:49 [#00747674]
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they just assume that because the major label industry is
doing badly is because everyone is downloading whole lp's
and burning them. not true. for one, the reason the major
labels are doing so bad is because they release 14 year old
TRL crap. second, i dont remember myself EVER downloading a
whole lp and burning it without intention to purchase said
lp. i think most people dl isolated songs for comps, to
decide if something is worth buying, etc.


 

offline Anus_Presley on 2003-06-19 08:49 [#00747676]
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hey stop stealing americas idea.


 

offline Anus_Presley on 2003-06-19 08:50 [#00747678]
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no norr have i


 

offline eXXailon from purgatory on 2003-06-19 08:51 [#00747679]
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Pfff! What a hypocrite twat! I can't imagine a member of the
government would pay serious attention to this.


 

offline tibbar from harrisburg, pa (United States) on 2003-06-19 08:52 [#00747682]
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i think thats the case with most people. since the easy
availability of music, i have gotten into a TON more
musicians i never would've heard any other way, becuase they
dont get mtv or radio airplay. we gotta have our version of
radio!!!! i mean, i NEVER wouldve heard bogdan raczynski's
music if i hadnt dl'ed something. and im SO glad i did.


 

offline manticore from London (ON) (Canada) on 2003-06-19 08:52 [#00747683]
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corrupted-grrl, why do you have a pic of some hippy-dippy
dredlockheaded member of i mother earth in your avatar?
that's sooooo mid-90s, yo!

but jokes aside, why is our country responsible for so many
musical atrocities?!?


 

offline manticore from London (ON) (Canada) on 2003-06-19 08:58 [#00747693]
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what the music industry in the u.s. seems to fail to realize
is that it is the shitty quality of mainstream music which
ultimately contributes to people pirating stuff like 50
Cent, etc. en masse - if most of it wasn't of the 'flavour
of the month' variety which you toss away after you've
gotten bored of the no-longer cool top-40 hit, sales would
be far better.
just look at someone like Radiohead - HTTT got leaked a good
couple months before proper release yet they're still
selling by the boatload regardless, because the music is
worth owning.

another problem is prices currently being charged for CDs.
it seems that the industry wants to fight piracy by, of all
things, increasing prices of CDs - talk about giving the
massess an inscentive to fuck buying CDs ever again even
moreso than before!


 

offline Ceri JC from Jefferson City (United States) on 2003-06-19 09:04 [#00747705]
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Perhaps the real reason large labels pants it about p2p is
precisely because it allows people to hear new
music... it means their relationship with the
media/advertising doesn't really count for a lot. Before,
they could pretty much dictate what people heard (and hence
knew about), now it's almost "word of mouth" around the
world.


 

offline titsworth from Washington, DC (United States) on 2003-06-19 09:09 [#00747718]
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radiohead sold 300,000 in the US last week.. i'm sure they'd
have sold 600,000 if not for piracy. it's nice to think that
"good music will be bought" but many of us know from
experience that that isn't true. a lot of friends or people
i know have cd-r's of radiohead and not "the real thing." in
fact, a ton of people i know--literally dozens of
people--don't even buy cd's anymore, they just download
songs and burn them as albums or as parts of a mix cd.


 

offline manticore from London (ON) (Canada) on 2003-06-19 09:11 [#00747720]
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oh no! think of the consequences on the u.s. economy - all
those underpriviledged starving underpaid & overworked media
whore advertisers suddenly out of their job! =(

it's all about maintaining the status-quo. the world's been
always like that, but thankfully, change ultimately always
proves an unstoppable fact of life.

i couldn't be more glad it's becoming more word of mouth.
it's about time we stop being spoonfed by MTV and Top-40 FM
radio


 

offline Ceri JC from Jefferson City (United States) on 2003-06-19 09:14 [#00747724]
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"i couldn't be more glad it's becoming more word of mouth.
it's about time we stop being spoonfed by MTV and Top-40 FM

radio"

I know, I'm sure IDM and related genres will become more
popular as more people hear them via p2p networks etc.


 

offline Anus_Presley on 2003-06-19 09:15 [#00747728]
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that's trrue.



 

offline manticore from London (ON) (Canada) on 2003-06-19 09:18 [#00747732]
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i mean, seriously, in the good ol' days (before any of us
here even existed), it was all principally word-of-mouth
(though the press played a far more significant role in
making or breaking a band than it does now), and so bands
which were actually decent (the beatles, rolling stones
before rehab, pink floyd, black sabbath before ronnie dio,
etc.) sold by the boatloads - though i guess that hardly
explains the rise of ABBA, or the Bee Gees for that matter.
i guess once disco came along, the world started on a
slippery slope down to hell.


 

offline titsworth from Washington, DC (United States) on 2003-06-19 09:19 [#00747734]
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for every Beatles there was a Love, for every Led Zeppelin a
Can. you get me?


 

offline titsworth from Washington, DC (United States) on 2003-06-19 09:20 [#00747737]
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for every John Denver a Nick Drake...


 

offline Anus_Presley on 2003-06-19 09:23 [#00747741]
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the Bee Gees !!!!

Fucking rrocked


 

offline manticore from London (ON) (Canada) on 2003-06-19 09:23 [#00747742]
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true, but in terms of the quality of music, there was a far
smaller disparity between led zeb and can than there now
exists between, say, creed and sigur ros.

nowadays there's just a lot more crap that becomes
mainstream simply because that's the only stuff most people
get exposed to.


 

offline titsworth from Washington, DC (United States) on 2003-06-19 09:27 [#00747748]
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all i'm saying is people are very selective with their
money.. now that they can "sample" music (ie: burn it and
never buy it, let's be honest.. a lot of people are like
this) they can explore "weirder" music w/o any risk. that
unfortunately does not necessarily mean these artists like
sigur ros are getting any money. people don't go out to the
record store to learn about the album leaf or telefon tel
aviv, they go to their computers.


 

offline Inverted Whale from United States Minor Outlying Islands on 2003-06-19 09:29 [#00747750]
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Overheard in computer store:

"We can add in the C4 explosive option for only $20
more..."

"er ... what? no thanks..."


 

offline Zeus from San Francisco (United States) on 2003-06-19 09:39 [#00747771]
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im not worried

i dont see this ever happening. it goes against too many
laws. Privacy laws, and property laws.

But even if it DID happen, I would worry.

Why? Because all the really good computor people dont get
jobs in the US govt, making shit pay. Theyd go to some
private company. And these are the people that will save us.
They will be able to protect computors, and probably, even
backfire it to the government computors.

It will be nasty... but hey, dont fuck with the hax0rz!


 

offline Zeus from San Francisco (United States) on 2003-06-19 09:39 [#00747773]
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I wouldnt*


 

offline corrupted-girl on 2003-06-19 09:46 [#00747781]
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dude that ain't i mother earth


 

offline mc_303_beatz from Glasgow, Scotland on 2003-06-19 09:53 [#00747787]
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I hardly buy CDs anymore as I am too careless and scratch
them so it isn't worth it. With MP3 I can download at a whim
and burn to disc and make replacements.


 


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