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Its something which is supposed to be important. I think its a pretty irrelevant effect what do the rest of you guys think? |
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i think live on surround speakers it's pretty wicked, but otherwise errelevant |
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Yeah thats my point. Though lets face it people never remember it. You never hear anyone go 'oh wait for the stereo panning bit'. |
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do you mean panning in general? pretty important, I think. can mean the difference between a flat, lifeless track and something that has some body. |
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ah or do you mean the swishy bits..? |
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I like the way retro music was mixed, often the guitars and voices would be in one speaker and the drums in the other, things like that. Turn one speaker off and bang, you got a song with no drums or some crazy shit. I don't care too much or even notice stereo on many modern things because of the way they mix it. Autechre could be mono for all I know. But then again, I don't have surround sound or anything, just a typical 2 speaker/woofer setup. |
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I guess. |
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I just think its too below the surface to recognise. Perhaps it adds to the overall effect I don't know. |
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you mean, when it goes back and forth? hmm, depends on the track. otherwise, stereo is crucial. |
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old prog rock was done like that cos it was for people on acid with those 8 speaker setups i think, well i like to think that, it's a nice idea |
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Panning should be banned for any form of music that is designed to be listened on headphones. It is a pet hate of mine. The is nothing wrong with seperating sounds between the lines but the panning of sounds from one channel to the other is overused and annoying. |
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That's how oldskool .MODs sound. hehehe. |
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Yeah thats a good point. In the old days with perhaps a number of speakers it meant something. When I hear hardcore Stereo panning it makes me dizzy. |
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The panning in Interstellar Overdrive is INSANE! Headfuck. |
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Yeah but the MONO Interstallar Overdrive kick's the stereo' arse 10 times ;) I wish groups would wide their stereo usage like some 60's rock. That would be much better. I kinda like how producers like Nigel Godrich are doing so these days. |
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stereo is essential. just listen to a track in mono and then in stereo.. and pan effects are good too, adds to the songs even tho its only subliminal sometimes... |
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i think panning is pretty important it makes the song less flat sorta |
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i have a stereo button on my amp, and a big red [STEREO] light comes on. its pretty old. |
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and inverting the phase of a synth on one channel, even slightly, gives sounds a good effect... i must agree tho, the in-yer-face hardcore pan effects make my head hurt |
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stereo placement is of the utmost importance to getting a good mix. it lets different sounds breathe.... hey, we all need our space. |
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OPHECKS. You made a mistake. Autechre can't be mono. Listen to Amber. It sounds like SPARKLINGLY DUMB UTTER CRAP in mono. No spacey feel in mono. |
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fucking word! |
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i see what you mean about letting sounds have space, thats a good point :) |
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Stereo panning is essential! I hate listening to tracks in mono. |
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Stereo is very important. Panning is mostly unnecessary, IMO |
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richard devine is a panning monkey. at one point i thought rdj album was a bit flat because of a lack of panning, but now I don't think it affects that album in a bad way. I like panning, depends on how it's used. |
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Hmm. I like it when music/sound moves around. |
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of course it's important. |
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listen to the panning on Rubber Soul (beatles album) especially "girl". i love that old way of panning, its crude but works really well! Overall panning is very useful, without panning it would be hard to distinguish one sound from another. panning a track well is a good art to have... |
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this isnt "panning" per se, but datacide - ondas its an atom heart/testu inoue album. each channel is its own song. ie, the left channel is completely different from the right in terms of what sounds are used. but each channel mixes incredibly well with one another, creating an offkilter yet really stable sound between two channels. they actually fit. really fucking excellent album. and its fun too ^_^ |
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it depends on how it's used |
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panning... is that when it switchs from speaker to speaker or so, or when different tracks of a song are on different speakers? Anyways, if it is, V-Proc by Autechres uses crazy panning, and it's awesome! |
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CRRKT |
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there is some panning on draft 7.30 that is too too nice for mr rogers |
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It a lot of cases, it's almost necessary. If you have too much cluttering up the center, things can sound muddy and sometimes distort. |
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Dudes Dudes........ You're totally forgetting Baba O' Reily by the Who In the beginning, the synth swirls around you. Great start to the best rock album of all time. |
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it annoys me when drums pan from right to left as a drum fill is being played, and is meant to sound like you are behind the drumkit. panning left to right makes it feel like you are either infront of the kit or playing left handed. i play me drums right handed, and this kind of stereo panning bugs me. otherwise, i always split my guitar/bass slighly to reduce the muddiness of my tracks. but as far as panning for effect goes, i use it only on occasion. ooh that reminds me, the panning on dark side of the moon is mondo bizzarro, especially in "on the run" when the heliocopters zoom over head. wicked!!! |
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*panning right to left makes it feel like...* |
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There's a cool thing you can do with panning that I rarely do because it requires too much annoying "calculation", well not really that much but I'm too lazy to do it. 1) draw a perfect circly on graph paper 2) number the x axis 0 to uh 64 or something, representing no volume to highest volume (or you may want to replace "a very small amount of volume" with "no volume" 3) number the y axis 0 through, uh 64 or something representing hard left to hard right (number 32 and 33 are right in the middle). 4) now plug in the data of every point on the circumferance of the circle for a sound, and it'll sound like it circles around your head when you play it. |
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well...It can be good at times...Massive Attack used it on Teardrop to great effect...it sounds great on headphones. |
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listen to last rights, and tell me its irrelevant. |
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the reason a lot of old stuff has say drums on the left and guitars on the right is because it was originally released in mono. most studios had a backup tape real recording on the other side of the studio in case the master failed. so in later years the master was mixed with the backup to produce a primitive stereo effect. |
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has anyone noticed "milkman" appears to be mono. if you listen and switch between stereo and mono there is no difference. dunno why he chose to do that... |
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stereo panning can be usefull, and properly used stereo placing is vital. there's nowt worse than listening to something on headphones and its coming more out one channel than the other. it cheeses me right off. but those artists who have effects whooshing from one side to the other like some sort of mad dervish should be whipped, beaten and possibly fisted until they cry for their mummy. it's some sort of weird nostalgia for the sixties where stereo just came into it's own and people like the beatles were going 'ooh, look it's stereo! let's have fun' and going deliberately barmy about it. (i like the beatles, btw) that said, i did use some stereo panning in of of them there ae remixed i did. *hides* |
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stereo or mono doesn't make or break a song, a good song is a good song regardless, think of all the awesome live bootlegs you've heard, these are often low quality and mono, but you still get blown away by them, |
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It's important (example: the beginning of Lenny Kravitz's "Fly Away") |
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hate it.... never got it.... never will.... it all sounds the same without headphones.... I guess I can tolerate it if it's on one single channel the entire song, but the "swishing" previously stated, is for the birds... PeaceLove The Sindustry INC. |
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sry, I mixed it up with "stereo". Still important.. ;) Example: random good quality recorded jazz bigband - when you close your eyes you can imagine where they stand on stage or sth. |
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Anyway, it depends of the system you are using for listening... you probably won't experience any panning with the 2 speakers which came bundled with your soundcard.. :P |
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Panning is important. I think the reason guitars were panned one way and backing vocals the other, was because of how you were supposed to see a band in front of you. I think vocals and drums have always been centered. Ping Pong delays and other panning fx can be annoying if over used. It's ok when Orbital does it on The Box pt2 though :) -P |
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