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GZA - liquid swords RZA - digital bullet check em out |
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I've said this before, but in my opinion the greatest is: Fear Of A Black Planet - Public Enemy. |
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Really that RZA album is good? Come on? I'll have to hear it. The best hip hop album of all time is: Nas Illmatic |
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the rza album isn't good compared to all the other 94-97-and-a-few-other wu solos. liquid swords is just the best though. flawless. in stereo's generally considered better than digital bullet, too, as far as bob digi goes. digital bullet has great songs like build strong though. ah. |
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you also should check out Soul On Ice, and unebeleivably slept on album by Rass Kass |
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Sorry, can't take y'all seriously until titsworth, "Grand whiteboy of all black music", responds... ;) |
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<´90 (pre. jay-see, ...!) EB & R - Paid In full NWA - 100 miles and running or EPMD - Strictly Business |
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from what i've heard it's just really creative take on the same pathetic lyrical theme: "i'm the better rapper, you must believe i'm the best, you are so wack, i have to make up for my insecurity and lack of confidence that i am in denial of with the schoolyard art of dissing" honestly, most rap makes me embarrased. even the lyricists i listen to get sucked into the ol' fuck you love me scheme, but a lot of these people don't do any thing else. IT IS BORING! |
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GZA - 'liquid swords' - arguably the best of the wu-tang related side-projects. tight production (RZA kept it sharp for this one!), not too shabby rhymes. sure, it may not rank with the top-10, but it's worth a listen. and for those dissing rap, you obviously have not had much of a chance to acquaint yourself with what i call "bottom 40" (as in underground hip-hop with a lyrical content far beyond 'booty' and 'bitches') here's a small list of thinking man's rap: 001: Buck 65 'Square' & 'Man Overboard' anything and everything by Atmosphere 002: Mr.Lif 'I phantom' 003: Sole 'Bottle of Humans' 004: Sixtoo 'Psyche Intangible'; 'Psyche Continuum'; 'Songs I Hate (and other people moments) 005: Recyclone 'Numbers' 006: Company Flow 'Funcrusher Plus' 007: Snoop Doggy Dogg "Doggystyle" (though i'm not that sure about that last one! hehe!) |
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we aren't talking about commercial pop rap jupitah |
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I definately agree with the gza recommendation, and although the 2nd bobby digital mistake was a step up from the previous one, it's still territory rza has no good reason to be on. it's a thinly veiled excuse to partake in the excess and frivolity that has been so prevalent in the "hip-hop" that has been embraced (this came AFTER, mind you, wu-tang was the biggest hting in the hip-hop world for at least 2-3 years for doing their OWN).. I just dont see the point in paying rza anymore attention that I would anyone else who does exactly what he's trying to emulate here. it just doesnt make sense to me. especially when they get outside production help and when their inside production makes attempts to sound like other producers. the distinctive qualities in their music and their poetry/message has been lost since about 1998. |
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same happens to me... when it comes about hip hop I prefer to see what titsworht thinks... it makes me feel I am really doing the right thing... but also archrival and theo seem to be good knowers |
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mantronix-mantronix. down by law-mc shan. old school i know,but thats were am from |
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yes, titsworth is the best for hip hop |
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Sorry, can't take y'all seriously until titsworth, "Grand whiteboy of all black music", responds... I know I may get a lot of crap over this one because that's always what happens when you question the "elite" members of this board but out of curiousity, what makes tits the definitive voice on hiphop to you? Is it because you know him for being into hiphop the longest on this board, or is it that you really don't know jack about hiphop and take his replies for granted because it looks knowledgable to you as a layman? |
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so am i the only one that nitices how 90% of rap is this sort of wank? |
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i mean dissing is a pretty pathetic artform is it not? |
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yeah it is and its pathetic and does the genre no real good but due to the shock value of some rappers that crap persists. for me im old school rap if at all boogie down productions - stop the violence public enemy - it takes a nation of millions to hold us back |
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fine selection there,if you dont mind me sayin |
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umm 90% of any genre is wank. well 90% of the overground stuff |
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titsworth: im having a roasted duck for dinner tonight. should i serve red or white wine? ..sorry to hijack this topic guys, but I dont make any decisions until i get the go code from titsworth |
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both those are great, digital bullets is fuckin awsome.... liquid swords by gza is better though. |
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Cypress Hill - Black Sunday House of Pain - Same as it ever was every from the ole Soul Assasins label! |
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pomme, if it's not too late, i think a nice red wine sauce would be absolutely exquisite with your roasted duck. and to the rest of you: uhhh.... heh ;) i don't know what to say really. i love me some "black music" but if i'm not on don't wait for me to say something. personally when it comes to hip-hop i highly value the opinions of people on here like pomme-o, theo himself, ArchRival (the KING of hip-hop on xltronic, bar none), and Meho (let's not forget!), not to mention thethirdball and corngrower! a lot of people here really know their stuff when it comes to hip-hop. i'm flattered people see me as some kind of expert on this music, but really i'm not, i'm just a big fan like some others here. hip-hop topics seem to come up every week. my advice for those curious is to simply look up (using the Search feature on the left) words like "hiphop" "rapper" "emcee" "clouddead" "roots" "kweli" "mainstream" and decide for yourself what kind of hip-hop it is that you want to explore. i certainly don't have a handle on "white rap" and certain other branches of hip-hop so if you want advice on people like sage francis, sole, murs, slug, etc. i'm not the one to come to. |
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ICE-T-home invasion |
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Well... Mack EL - Get N IT The Ypsilanti All-Starz Thats all you need |
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I bought that "Quality" from Kweli the other day. I dig it. |
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mindless self indulgence - tight |
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Abra-Dab (really going for obscurity points here) |
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hee hee, I haven't heard anybody mention MSI in a long time. OK is right: 90% of anything mainstream or readily audible is going to disappoint. but discarding hip hop as an entire genre would really be stupid and devastating. there's SO MUCH fucking great intelligent hip hop out there that people just ignore, it makes me crazy. |
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even the underground. you can find a lot of underground hip-hop that is less ridiculous than the mainstream, but the scene is still flooded with embarassing self-confidence issues. |
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i know what you mean but there is still a plethora of quality releases that aren't like that...theyre often harder to find out about but theyre there. |
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