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I took general astronomy, but now I'm in ASTR 123, the birth and death of stars. this shit is blowing my mind, really, who else takes this? |
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my appologies for the '!' in the subject, that was highly unneccesary. |
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astronomy is the science of the gods. if you aren't already, i suggest you major or minor in it if you can handle the math. |
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I took it for one semester, YES it totally blew my mind, my teacher was great, he was eccentric to say the least. It's amazing learning about how mass bends light and the such. I also took Math Logic & Knowledge with him, great classes. |
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o/t: do you have anything to do with the development of trillian? |
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so I was told, that say you have two galaxies like our own. ~200 billion stars in each if they collide, there are only 30-40 physical collisions, there is so much empty space. IF GALAXYS COLLIDE.......I was sitting in class going......holy fucking shit, why do humans matter at all?! |
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i took astronomy once...couldn't cut it though. it was boring as fuck anyway. |
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I took astronomy last semestre. I think the most fascinating idea we were taught was the hypothesis of "white holes". Trying to wrap my mind around that, and the idea of 'bending space' in general, was quite an adventure. |
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hi desdemona |
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he talks about when space and time were created, and dark matter and shit it makes up 85% of everything, but we can't see it, or have any idea what it is....... WTF!!!?!! blows my mind |
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once you get heavily into the math of astronomy it becomes very very difficult. but if you keep to the notion that the ideas behind the math are mind blowing then its not that bad at all. pomme: no, but i suppose with my screenname you might be inclined to ask. |
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we don't get into the math at all, it's just an entry level course, but I mean, I sit there in class, asking myself wtf the point is. I'll live to 70-80 years old, the galaxy is fucking 14billion years old, wtf's the point? |
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this is more physics than astronomy, but theres a pretty amazing theory called the zero point theory. and, well, its amazing to say the least. theres also a theory making the rounds that einstein was semi wrong about relativity and that the speed of light actually fluctuates. if thats true than it pretty much changes everything in physics. |
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I'm taking a astronomy course this summer, I've been reading alot of different books over the last couple years about the different concepts that can now be realized do to what we now know, and it's pretty cool stuff |
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explain these guys a little bit, sounds intriguing |
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you'll enjoy it man, just keep your mind open, and let it go for a ride, it's great to try and grasp, but simply not be able to let that shit blow your mind |
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it seems pointless if you dwell on how insignificant our time here is. The point is to attempt to comprehend the amazing vastness and complexity of our universe, and perhaps discover the unknown. |
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what i don't get is how one can believe that 85% of all matter is dark matter, and believe that the universe is limitless, how can there be a percentage of infinity? wouldn't any percentage of infinity be infinity? |
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but I mean, the universe is so vast, what is the point of me trying to explain and understand I love how it fucks with my head, but we really are insignificant. |
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I guess I figured that we might be terribly small and short lived in comparison to the rest of the universe, but our structure and composition is so ornately complex that it almost balances out. Think about stars somehow changing little by little to become something as minutely and uniquely detailed as your hand... and capable of making music too. Amazing. |
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but we know the universe is not infinite... at least our univers |
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no one has ever explained to me that the universe was in any way limitless. if it was, though, you could still assume it was expanding in the same composition that it is in now, which is 85% dark matter. |
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holy what the fuck!? |
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i know there's really no "proof", i've just allways thought of it that way, because, to me, it seems even more impossible for there be some sort of end to the universe..like some sort of wall with nothing on the other side.. |
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btw: I should be doing my astronomy work right now! |
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this is a pretty brief explanation of zero point field theory http://www.science-spirit.org/articles/Articledetail.cfm?ar ticle_ID=126 |
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cuz it would be a wall to nothing, the wall itself would be the border of everything? what would hold the wall in? the matter in? I agree with that idea, and if it is not infinite, what is the universe expanding INto?? |
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that blows my mind........ |
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i think these theories are extremely interesting. but in a way, the more that you learn about them, the more and more unanswered questions you'll have. |
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it's expanding until it hits it's maximum size, then will contract again until it condenses into an almost identical copy of the original ball of matter which was the first stuff of the big bang, and will colide with a similiar contracting universe of anti-matter, causing another violent reaction or big bang and starting the opposing expansions of the two opposing universes all over again (corngrowers outlandish origin theory) |
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...wait, i mean it's not all just theory, though. |
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thats the trouble with it all. we'll never really know why this stuff is how it is because it is beyond our comprehension. piece together one bit of the puzzle and twenty new questions arise. and every hundred years or so we figure out that what we thought we knew was just a small, usually misinterpreted bit of a larger theory. what scares me is that the universe is essentially nothing. and the things within the nothing (electrons atoms etc) need an "uncertainty" principal because we're not even entirely sure where they are. |
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of course theres the multiple universe theory as proposed in david deutchs (not sure how to spell his name) writings. ties in with quantum mechanics but christ its weird to think about. |
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it's still rather appealing to have to ability to push our minds to comprehend these things, even if we're left with more questions... the fact that we were given the ability to so thoroughly contemplate and figure out how our universe works as we know it, that has to have some kind of significants |
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uhm, this is fucking crazy, is that a good sumnation of any of this? |
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well yeah. my view is that although life is entirely subjective and lends no real solid answers the entire point lies in the process of thinking you might be close to figuring it out, being proven wrong, and then going back and thinking about it again. that to me is the uniquely human condition. we're tortured with the ability to comprehend, but not to do so enough that it really means that much in the end. its still fun though. |
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to each his own... crazy is the last thing it seems to me, mabey a little overwhelming, but not crazy |
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crazy in how overwhelming it is perhaps? theres an odd logic underneath it all, so crazy it ain't. just very very hard to fully grasp. |
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"the entire point lies in the process of thinking you might be close to figuring it out" I like that, a lot |
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...theres the multiple universe theory... does that have to do with the idea that any action performed in one reality would create an alternate parallel reality almost the same as the first, the only difference being that it included the one action that was performed to create it? |
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i mean crazy more like real hard to understand, not like "impossible" |
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isn't that "Dopelganger Photons" ? |
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yeah I know what you mean, it's all logically grounded in the end, but trying to understand it all sometimes makes you feel like your heads just gonna explode |
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yeah. it ties into quantum mechanics in that its been "proven" to some degree using a pretty famous flashlight through a pinhole experiment. something to do with the photons dispersing. i don't honestly remember all the details. it basically puts forth the idea that there are an infinite number of universes existing in a sort of pile of dimensions and that every single thing that exists now has an infinite number of variations. |
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bingo, just blows my mind |
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dude.. all you guys are stoned aren't you? |
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heres a bit of explanation on the multiverse http://www.qubit.org/people/david/Articles/Frontiers.html |
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actually yes... yes I am :D |
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i knew it! |
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lol, no, just tired and overworked |
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