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offline Morton from out (Netherlands, The) on 2003-03-14 13:20 [#00595675]
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I've never heard any NIN tracks.

please give me some advice which tracks / albums to listen
to first, to get into NIN
which would you reommend?

thx in advance


 

offline Morton from out (Netherlands, The) on 2003-03-14 13:20 [#00595676]
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*recommend


 

offline recycle from Where is Phobiazero (Lincoln) (United States) on 2003-03-14 13:22 [#00595685]
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all of them !!!!

broken and fixed ep are way fuckin killer

but buy them all !!


 

offline afxNUMB from So.Flo on 2003-03-14 13:23 [#00595687]
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the great below

just look at their albums and pick from there, its alllll
greatness


 

offline Morton from out (Netherlands, The) on 2003-03-14 13:25 [#00595690]
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haha 'all of them' ?

i'm not bill gates! i'm a poor student
i'll try out the ones recommended
thx


 

offline recycle from Where is Phobiazero (Lincoln) (United States) on 2003-03-14 13:26 [#00595693]
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seriouesly Morton, they are all great you will not find 1
bad nin cd

pretty hate machine is old school industrial, the rest is
pretty good and heavy


 

offline pomme de terre from obscure body in the SK System on 2003-03-14 13:26 [#00595694]
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Downward Spiral


 

offline pantalaimon from Winterfell (United Kingdom) on 2003-03-14 13:27 [#00595696]
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outstanding nin tracks:

head like a hole
the great below
leaving hope
and all that could have been
sin

those tracks are quite varied so i'm sure you'll like at
least some of them.


 

offline earthleakage from tell the world you're winning on 2003-03-14 13:27 [#00595697]
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you've never heard any nin? do you live in a cave?


 

offline Morton from out (Netherlands, The) on 2003-03-14 13:36 [#00595707]
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lol
i just came out


 

offline pantalaimon from Winterfell (United Kingdom) on 2003-03-14 13:37 [#00595708]
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oh and hurt is an awesome track too, how could i forget that
one!!


 

offline uzim on 2003-03-14 13:40 [#00595712]
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first i heard was Head Like A Hole (first track off the
first album, Pretty Hate Machine)... old but good.
not that representative though.

The Downward Spiral and The Fragile needed more time for me
to get into, but i was still young and musically ignorant
so... : )

maybe if you have an autosearch on your p2p program, you can
try to put some of these... (one by period maybe)

· Terrible Lie (live versions are much better)
· Something I Can Never Have (sad, beautiful, quiet)
· Sin (very danceable cool PHM-era track)
· Ringfinger (maybe the best of the period, still sounding
a bit 80's)

· Wish
· Gave Up
(both off the 'Broken' EP... more violent, very good)

· Mr. Self Destruct (quite violent, except a quiet pause
in-between)
· Closer (the classic NIN track, with the "fuck you
like an animal lyrics"... not the best but still the
best-known)
· Ruiner (more electronic sounding, but with also a guitar
solo i like very much, a just sublime melody in the
chorus... this track is near perfection)
· The Becoming (you have to hear this one. it's a bit
disturbing, with Trent's beautiful warm voice, like trying
to keep his calm in a very weird machine / environment...
with screams on the background... the final line, "it won't
give up it wants me dead and goddamn this noise inside my
head", whispered all over the end... a bit hard to describe
but i would highly recommend it)
· Hurt (Trent's favorite, at least it seems so. classic NIN
song.)

· We're In This Together Now
· Please
(both straightforward but very good songs off The Fragile)
· Somewhat Damaged
· Even Deeper
· The Great Below (one of the most beautiful, if not the
most beautiful...)
· Where Is Everybody?
· Ripe (with decay) (very nice instrumental)

+ some non-album tracks i like very much:
· And All That Could Have Been
· Dead Souls (Joy Division cover)
· The Perfect Drug (more drum'n'bass, not caracteristic at
all of NIN but great)
· Closer To God (a remix of Closer, better than the
original imo)
plus y


 

offline MongoloidBaby from Savannah (United States) on 2003-03-14 13:41 [#00595714]
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the downward spiral - seconded

although i really think if i listened to nin for the first
time today, it wouldn't even approach the impact it had on
me when i was in grade school...

I'm still a huge fan, just... i've discovered so much since
then...

also, check out Prick ... it's by Trent's musical pappy,
Kevin McMahon, and I personally have decided that it
surpasses nine inch nails.


 

offline uzim on 2003-03-14 13:43 [#00595715]
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ou can try some of the remixes, most NIN remixes are of very
good quality.

...oops
my list is far too long :/

well, take pantalaimon's list!! great ones! : )
but just please download The Becoming, too.
(not the Still version... the Downward Spiral one)


 

offline Morton from out (Netherlands, The) on 2003-03-14 13:45 [#00595718]
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thx all for the suggestions (uzim: wow!!)
i'm d/l-ing, while listening to 'closer' (the 1st one
d/l-ed) i like it
i'll get some of his albums soon if the rest is good stuff
also

:)


 

offline surrounded from it won't be hard anymore to li on 2003-03-14 13:46 [#00595720]
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well i started with the downward spiral, and that worked for
me :-)

I remember when i first got it, my parents were having a new
kitchen installed. So there were all these people working in
and around our house (drilling and hammering and whatnot).

And i *tried* to listen to the cd, but i could hardly hear
anything because of all the noise they were making, so i
turned it of after the first song...

...when i listened to it again later that day i realised the
noise was a part of the first song ;-) I wasn't used to much
in those days :-p

Some of my favourite tracks:

mr self destruct (that first song)
wish
closer
we're in this together
the great below
piggy
hurt
the perfect drug!! (excellent song!)

too many great songs... i strongly recommend listening to a
whole album instead of just a few songs though.


 

offline MongoloidBaby from Savannah (United States) on 2003-03-14 13:47 [#00595721]
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heh, closer is good, but it's like a joke...

the rest of that album is incredible though... ah it's been
so long since i've sat down and listened to it


 

offline MongoloidBaby from Savannah (United States) on 2003-03-14 13:50 [#00595722]
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oh yeah... mr. self destruct was so new to me... i was
laying in the back of a car listening to it on headphones
and that ending part started kicking in, and i sat up and
looked out the windows to see if it was raining really hard
or something, and then i took off my headphones and realized
it was part of the music... i went "whoa, that is the
coolest thing ever."


 

offline Zombiekev from Ardmore (United States) on 2003-03-14 13:51 [#00595723]
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nin - hurt
nin - closer
nin - piggy
nin - head like a hole
"black as your soul, i rather die than give you control"

...give this shit a gander....

"my sweetest friend"


 

offline pomme de terre from obscure body in the SK System on 2003-03-14 13:54 [#00595728]
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ringfinger?!? jesus, that ones retarded.. (not as bad as
'twist'.. it's demo, heh)

anyhow, i second monobabys Prick recommendation.. Prick is
great. Though all I've heard is the self-titled album. oh
and i only recommend it if you are a nin fan.



 

offline surrounded from it won't be hard anymore to li on 2003-03-14 13:54 [#00595729]
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"· Closer (the classic NIN track, with the "fuck you
like an animal lyrics"... not the best but still the
best-known)
"

When Maxwell covered this song on his unplugged-show he
changed the lyrics into "I want to love you like an
animal
, lol, that always makes me laugh ;-)


 

offline Zombiekev from Ardmore (United States) on 2003-03-14 13:56 [#00595731]
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go back to ireland you 'potato'

for those of you who don't know french
pomme de terre = potato

yeah my droogs!!!!!!! drukqs my face!!!


 

offline pomme de terre from obscure body in the SK System on 2003-03-14 14:02 [#00595741]
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Savannah, GA?


 

offline MongoloidBaby from Savannah (United States) on 2003-03-14 14:02 [#00595742]
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Yep... why?


 

offline pomme de terre from obscure body in the SK System on 2003-03-14 14:04 [#00595744]
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Curious.. you were at the Richard Devine show in Atlanta,
right?


 

offline MongoloidBaby from Savannah (United States) on 2003-03-14 14:07 [#00595748]
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Yeah... were you? Do I know you somehow? Clue me in...


 

offline epohs from )C: on 2003-03-14 14:10 [#00595751]
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the 'downward spiral' is probably the most accessable
for somebody starting out. also there's two versions of
'further down the spiral' which are mostly remixes of
songs off of DS. they are both very good too.


 

offline pomme de terre from obscure body in the SK System on 2003-03-14 14:11 [#00595752]
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I was there.. you don't know me though. I just remember that
post cause I was there (the guy on-stage videotaping).

Anyhow, nice to meet you. We'll have to meet up at the next
decent show that comes to Atlanta.


 

offline MongoloidBaby from Savannah (United States) on 2003-03-14 14:14 [#00595756]
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That's so kooky... do you have a copy of the tape of that
show? I really enjoyed that... I was the guy all in black
with a ponytail who was bugging richard after the show...

actually, speaking of which, I asked him about his work with
nine inch nails that night.

I was just in town for godspeed you black emperor the other
day, that was a much bigger show. I'm trying to get back to
see sigur ros on the 27th, but i'm having a bitch of a time
finding a ride, sadly.


 

offline uzim on 2003-03-14 14:15 [#00595757]
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pomme de terre > i don't care, i like it! : )

surrounded > yes, i knew about that... ^^
how ridiculous!!


 

offline pantalaimon from Winterfell (United Kingdom) on 2003-03-14 14:18 [#00595760]
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what did he say about his work with nin and what's Richard
Devine's music like?


 

offline pomme de terre from obscure body in the SK System on 2003-03-14 14:19 [#00595761]
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Yeah, I've got a copy of the tape..

I live in NC so there has to be something I really REALLY
like to get me to go all the way to Atlanta (which is anly
about 2 hours away). But if something happens and we meet
someday, I'll bring you a copy.. hah. I've never met anyone
from the board before (that I didn't already know).

uzim: :P


 

offline MongoloidBaby from Savannah (United States) on 2003-03-14 14:21 [#00595764]
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richard devine's live show was a kinda mishmash of ambient
creepy electronic noises, his albums are sometimes like
that, and sometimes feel like a marching band made of
complex machinery... he's really good, studied classically
for a really long time to grow up and make noise, which i
found to be a refreshing thing. He hasn't actually worked
with trent yet, but he's waiting on a callback from trent to
go into the studio and kinda give the new nin work a fresh
feel... i told him i was glad he was going to work with
trent because i thought he could liven up trent's work some
:P


 

offline Morton from out (Netherlands, The) on 2003-03-14 14:23 [#00595766]
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?how come i always thought you were dutch?
i really did, dunno why :\

thx 4 all the suggestions everyone :)


 

offline pantalaimon from Winterfell (United Kingdom) on 2003-03-14 14:25 [#00595770]
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sounds good, i might get lip switch, that a good place to
start?


 

offline BILE from São Paulo (Brazil) on 2003-03-14 14:27 [#00595772]
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NIN was good when I was a depressed teenager, but now I find
it impossible to take Trent seriously. I mean c'mon, the guy
complains about how horrible his life is in nearly every
song... and yet he's a millionaire, rich and famous, what
the fuck does he have to complain about?


 

offline MongoloidBaby from Savannah (United States) on 2003-03-14 14:28 [#00595774]
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yeah lip switch is a nice blend of both...

i wanted to buy an album from him there, but he didn't bring
any because he thought no one would want his stuff.

Yeah, pomme, add me on aim: TheMongoloidBaby ... we'll have
to coordinate to get together sometime... sometimes we go to
concerts in charleston too (cex) and wherever else a good
band is playing... it's rare any of them come to *this* town
specifically though.


 

offline pantalaimon from Winterfell (United Kingdom) on 2003-03-14 14:28 [#00595775]
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there is more to life than being rich and famous


 

offline BILE from São Paulo (Brazil) on 2003-03-14 14:30 [#00595777]
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no shit.

but he's so far beyond any possible reason to be as
depressed as he makes himself out to be in all his songs.

it's just a gimmick.


 

offline pomme de terre from obscure body in the SK System on 2003-03-14 14:33 [#00595783]
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I get that alot actually on here.. people think I'm dutch.
(?)

My last name is Holland?


 

offline Morton from out (Netherlands, The) on 2003-03-14 14:35 [#00595785]
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haha :) well that's probably the reason..
can't think of something else

didn't even know that was your last name though.. funny
stuff


 

offline ziggomatic from ??....uv ajed...deja vu....?? on 2003-03-14 15:38 [#00595851]
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the reason his lyrics are the way they are, is because of
the music's style and the way Trent's singing style
goes....

try to take the music of "Mr. Self Destruct" or "Hurt", or
any other song and combine with lyrics about pretty flowers
and diamond rings, and it just doesn't work out....

--but any way...

I would recommend, no, I would command you to listen to all
of The Downward Spiral. NOW!
Then listen to Further Down the Spiral.
Then listen as NIN blossoms in The Fragile. Then go back to
the PHM-era or the Broken-interim and it just gets better.

My FAVORITE songs are:

Terrible Lie (PHM)
Something I Can Never Have (PHM)
Wish (Broken)
Help Me I'm In Hell (Broken)
Screaming Slave (Fixed)
A Warm Place (TDS)
Reptile (TDS)
Eraser (TDS)
The Downward Spiral (FDTS)
Eraser (Quiet) (FDTS)
At The Heart of It All (FDTS)
The Beauty of Being Numb (FDTS)
La Mer (The Fragile)
The Great Below (The Fragile)
The Way Out Is Through (The Fragile)
The Mark Has Been Made (The Fragile)
The Big Come Down (The Fragile)
Leaving Hope (on Still CD)
And All That Could Have Been (Still CD)

...whew.....

deep breaths....


 

offline Anus_Presley on 2003-03-14 15:56 [#00595875]
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i'm glad you have the old avatarr back Morton.


 

offline Morton from out (Netherlands, The) on 2003-03-14 15:58 [#00595876]
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weren't the others any good?


 

offline Anus_Presley on 2003-03-14 16:00 [#00595878]
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yeah but not the talking ant one.

i still like the one you have the most thou.


 

offline Morton from out (Netherlands, The) on 2003-03-14 16:03 [#00595879]
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haha you're right, it was an annoying ant
somehow i had the idea people looked at my posts in an other
way 'cause of that avatar, like i wanted to be some kind of
smart ass, and an annoying one

i'll delete it right away dude :)
and thx, i think i like this one most myself too


 

offline Duble0Syx from Columbus, OH (United States) on 2003-03-14 17:41 [#00595951]
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One should really listen to Pretty Hate Machine. It's the
first album and the beginning of all the goodness. It was
released in 89' so it sounds a bit aged, but it doesn't
affect it's listenability. It's got a "I'm pissed off at
god" theme going for it. Especially track 2.
Broken sounds pretty Garage band-ish. But thats what it was
supposed to sound like. Fixed is remixes of broken.
There are 4 core NIN albums and the rest are remixes
revolving around them.
PHM
Broken
TDS
The Fragile

The rest are remixes.


 

offline teapot from Paddington (Australia) on 2003-03-14 20:29 [#00596018]
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The Fragile & Still are the best releases, then Further
Down...


 

offline Lust Incarnate from the edge of the deep green sea (United States) on 2003-03-14 22:58 [#00596053]
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Start with Pretty Hate Machine, then go to the Downward
Spiral. Both are very yummy. Hell, they are all yummy. Im
hungry. :(


 

offline Zombiekev from Ardmore (United States) on 2003-03-15 08:03 [#00596340]
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the fragile was magnificent


 


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