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Jedi Chris
on 2003-02-11 14:56 [#00551304]
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"The prime minister gave his personal authorisation for soldiers to be drafted in to boost security at Heathrow airport and other sites in London, says Downing Street.
A total of 450 troops have joined 1,000 extra police officers in patrolling the airport as part of a tightening of security at sites across the capital.
The heightened security is linked to intelligence concerns that al-Qaeda may try to use surface-to-air missiles in the UK or US this week. "
I think there is something, big time, that 'we' are not being told here!!!
Did anyone else see this in the news today?
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C738
from Outer Space on 2003-02-11 14:59 [#00551309]
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Nope, but I did read 83% of the british people is against UK joining USA.
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mylittlesister
from ...wherever (United Kingdom) on 2003-02-11 15:09 [#00551318]
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yeah i heard about this
and also apparently they've received a message/video (no one knows yet) from Osama bin laden.....
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Jedi Chris
on 2003-02-11 15:15 [#00551323]
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/2749659.stm
They have tanks there as well?!?!?!
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mylittlesister
from ...wherever (United Kingdom) on 2003-02-11 15:20 [#00551325]
Points: 8472 Status: Regular | Followup to Jedi Chris: #00551323
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hahha, cause MORE mayhem on the roads around heathrow (just one letter away from deathrow)
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mccabe
from fuck knows .......I`m lost !!! on 2003-02-11 15:21 [#00551326]
Points: 908 Status: Lurker | Followup to C738: #00551309
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Our new poll, similar to the research being done inside Downing Street, tells us what progress Tony Blair has made in building support for his policy on Iraq
We've had 90-days of intense anti-Saddam propaganda since we last carried out our huge survey of British opinion over Iraq.
Our new poll, similar to the research being done inside Downing Street, tells us what progress Tony Blair has made in building support for his policy on Iraq, but also what buttons he needs to press to get public backing for a war.
Back in November we asked which country people regarded as the greatest threat to world peace. Number one - not surprisingly perhaps - was Iraq. Second the US. Third - Israel.
Now, though, Iraq has actually slipped down to third place. Second is North Korea. And the country Britons regard as the biggest threat today - the United States. On this evidence, Tony Blair is losing the Propaganda War.
So after endless speeches, dossiers, blurry photos and crackly phone intercepts, how convincing is the case for war?
We asked - true or false: Saddam has chemical and biological weapons. 74% the vast majority think that is true.
He's hiding weapons from the UN - 71% believe that. Saddam has strong links to Al Qaeda? Only 33% think that's true - 34% say it's false the remainder said they didn't know.
Last Wednesday US Secretary of State Colin Powell played America's propaganda trump card at the UN. The Iraqis dismissed it as a stunt.
Was Britain convinced? 62% of people did not think his evidence amounted to proof that Saddam has weapons of mass destruction.
But look at this: 21% of the public - thats one in five - thought his evidence was fabricated.
65% of people think the government's case against Iraq is weakened by Channel Four News revelation that they'd copied chunks of an intelligence dossier from a twelve year old student thesis.
Looking now at what I call truth and consequences. What does the public really think is Tony Blair's motivation for possible war against I
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mccabe
from fuck knows .......I`m lost !!! on 2003-02-11 15:23 [#00551329]
Points: 908 Status: Lurker | Followup to mccabe: #00551326
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Looking now at what I call truth and consequences. What does the public really think is Tony Blair's motivation for possible war against Iraq?
Did people think he was driven by a sense of morality and justice or political self-interest?
A clear gender split on this question - among men, 41% think his motives are pure, 38% think its self interest. But among women only 30% said it was a moral issue, 46%, almost half are cynical about his motives. In fact women across the survey are more sceptical
So what can Tony Blair do?
Three months of case building and look what's happened.
This was the situaion last November - 13% said yes to military action, 9% no, 76% needed persuading.
Today - still 70% of people need to be convinced.
So would a second UN resolution do the trick? If Tony Blair had UN backing for war instantly his problem would be solved 82% would back military action. Without any UN support only 28% would back an attack alongside the Americans.
But here's something very interesting - if Tony Blair got a majority of the Security Council to back military action - even if one or two countries vetoed a second resolution - 62% would go to war.
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mccabe
from fuck knows .......I`m lost !!! on 2003-02-11 15:24 [#00551330]
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Anyway..........i think the tanks are just for show.
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2003-02-11 15:29 [#00551333]
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getting ready for osama here's the latest news from cnn "Purported message from Osama bin Laden calls on Muslims to show solidarity against U.S.-led military action in Iraq."
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pomme de terre
from obscure body in the SK System on 2003-02-11 15:29 [#00551334]
Points: 11941 Status: Moderator | Followup to mccabe: #00551330 | Show recordbag
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ha
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b0nk
from 1969 in the sunshine (United States) on 2003-02-11 15:48 [#00551352]
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i saw on the news that bin laden supposedly released another tape. that with all this hype is a little scary. that surface to air missle shit is scary as well.. i live really close to jfk airport too
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mccabe
from fuck knows .......I`m lost !!! on 2003-02-11 15:56 [#00551360]
Points: 908 Status: Lurker | Followup to b0nk: #00551352
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hehe......im just trying to figure out who`s yer picture of.....either saddam or freddy mercury.......or it could be tom selleck :D
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diablo
on 2003-02-11 16:04 [#00551369]
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I live near Heathrow... right on the flightpath! Whoopie!
In all honesty though, it is impossible to tell what is genuine "defensive"(?) measures and what is possibly propaganda gearing us up for a "war." I really don't know what to believe.
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mccabe
from fuck knows .......I`m lost !!! on 2003-02-11 16:10 [#00551373]
Points: 908 Status: Lurker | Followup to diablo: #00551369
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I`d go with the propaganda........unfortunately :(
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xian_ecci
from los angeles on 2003-02-11 16:37 [#00551392]
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'On this evidence, Tony Blair is losing the Propaganda War.
well you're sure racing ahead.
'What does the public really think is Tony Blair's motivation for possible war against Iraq? '
probably to keep little UK from becomming an insignificant part of world politics, but promoting what they believe in.
if you believe that our actual aim is to oppress and kill inocent Iraqis, then keep bashing your government.
no one wants war. it will happen one way or another.
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flea
from depths of your mind (New Zealand) on 2003-02-11 17:26 [#00551407]
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the whole excercise can be summed up in these words
Scaring the bejesus out of the dissenters into submission for a possible war
personally I have seen this scenario played out many times in many places on this planet...to the letter
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