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offline bill_hicks from my city is amazing it is calle on 2003-02-10 04:45 [#00548615]
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Anyone catch the launch night last night of this new piece
of shit? It's being marketed towards 20's to 30's. Johnny
Vaughan, Johnny Vegas, some benders, Steve Coogan - it was a
veritable cornucopia of bollocks. I pay £112 a year for
this shit? Marketing - market this you money grabbing
bastards.


 

offline Netlon Sentinel from eDe (Netherlands, The) on 2003-02-10 04:46 [#00548616]
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this is the new digital channel right? is that ever going to
catch on? i saw the end of it on bbc2... painfully unfunny
stuff


 

offline core from London (United Kingdom) on 2003-02-10 04:47 [#00548618]
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for once i agree with sir bill.

i was greatly underwhelmed by the BBC's new take on the
twenty-sumfink market. it was tiresome and cringe-making
within the first 5 minutes.


 

offline TonyFish from the realm of our dreams on 2003-02-10 04:48 [#00548620]
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"I'm as mad as hell, and I'm not going to take this
anymore!" eh, bill?



 

offline bill_hicks from my city is amazing it is calle on 2003-02-10 04:51 [#00548621]
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If these cunts want to keep this farce of a licensing fee
going, then they'll have to start producing some quality
television. I don't know how much that "man in the pub" twat
Johnny Vaughan is on a year but I bet it's about a million
times too much. The funniest thing about him is his
ridiculous attempts to cover up his balding pate.


 

offline core from London (United Kingdom) on 2003-02-10 04:53 [#00548624]
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hahaha


 

offline TonyFish from the realm of our dreams on 2003-02-10 04:57 [#00548627]
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yeah but nothing's going to be done about it because there
are shit loads of vapid morons out there who actually like
this kind of crap and anyway we are particularly good at
complaining about things in the UK, we just sit back,
grumble a little bit and take whatever shit the mass medias
shovel.


 

offline core from London (United Kingdom) on 2003-02-10 04:57 [#00548628]
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tell you what, it's the plummeting quality of tv that
worries me.


 

offline TonyFish from the realm of our dreams on 2003-02-10 04:58 [#00548629]
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*we aren't particularly good at..*
d'oh


 

offline martinhm from York (United Kingdom) on 2003-02-10 05:00 [#00548632]
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I switched on to find Vaughan + Appletons and immediately
turned it off again. Still, I suspect it will be better than
BBC Choice, although I wouldn't know since I don't have
digital.


 

offline core from London (United Kingdom) on 2003-02-10 05:03 [#00548633]
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it's the usual suspect isn't it? martin you just said it.
'vaughan/appletons'... you could probably make a list up
with the media's idea of 'trendy' celebs.

i can see it now...
"palmer-tomkinson..... johnny vegas.... posh spice..."

fucking hell...


 

offline jonesy from Lisboa (Portugal) on 2003-02-10 05:08 [#00548637]
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The Appletons were on??? Shit, I missed it. Their new single
is so dope.


 

offline core from London (United Kingdom) on 2003-02-10 05:09 [#00548639]
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i choose to read that in a sarcastic tone of voice. whether
or not you intend one.


 

offline martinhm from York (United Kingdom) on 2003-02-10 05:09 [#00548640]
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*scanning for sarcasm*


 

offline Ceri JC from Jefferson City (United States) on 2003-02-10 05:09 [#00548641]
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Johnny Vegas isn't funny. He's just a fat guy with a silly
voice. Every UK pub has one...


 

offline core from London (United Kingdom) on 2003-02-10 05:11 [#00548644]
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i agree ceri, i'm sick of him, he makes me cringe!


 

offline jonesy from Lisboa (Portugal) on 2003-02-10 05:18 [#00548650]
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I think his stand up shows are very different to his TV
appearances. I've heard great things. But what I've seen of
him on TV is disappointing.

BTW, if you get chance, go see Daniel Kitson. He's sooooo
good.


 

offline core from London (United Kingdom) on 2003-02-10 05:20 [#00548655]
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i saw vegas live on stage and he only made the audience
embarassed, didn't make me laugh much at all



 

offline bill_hicks from my city is amazing it is calle on 2003-02-10 05:41 [#00548684]
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BBC are caught between a rock and a hard place - they want
critical acclaim but more importantly mass appeal. The way
they think they'll get mass appeal is by pandering to the
lowest common denominator. It IS possible to get mass appeal
and have critical acclaim - the two are not mutually
exclusive, but it takes clever people to make that kind of
TV. And Johnny Vaughan et al are not clever people.


 

offline jonesy from Lisboa (Portugal) on 2003-02-10 05:42 [#00548685]
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Who are?


 

offline danbrusca from Derbyshire (United Kingdom) on 2003-02-10 05:44 [#00548689]
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Oi! You leave Palmer-Tomkinson alone!

Anyway, I was going to watch BBC3 last night but ITV
cunningly scheduled The Second Coming with Christopher
Eclleston opposite it so i watched that. By all accounts so
far it was a good decision.

Still, I'll give Swiss Toni a shot tonight.


 

offline core from London (United Kingdom) on 2003-02-10 05:46 [#00548692]
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what bill said.


 

offline bill_hicks from my city is amazing it is calle on 2003-02-10 05:51 [#00548699]
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In recent memory, whoever commissioned the Michael Jackson
interview - great telly and huge viewing figures.


 

offline jonesy from Lisboa (Portugal) on 2003-02-10 05:56 [#00548704]
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Ha, ha.


 

offline astrid-gil-botn from Londinium (United Kingdom) on 2003-02-10 05:58 [#00548706]
Points: 1649 Status: Regular | Followup to bill_hicks: #00548615



the show that bill_hicks refers to so affectionatley as
"some benders " was matt lucas from shooting stars and was
hilarious - give the thing a chance!

on the other hadn the michael jackson interview was awful
martin bashir was stiff as a board and nothing new came out
of the programme - i preferred michael after watching it -
he's still odd but he's got humanity - martin bashir is as
crap as he's always been


 

offline giginger from Milky Beans (United Kingdom) on 2003-02-10 05:59 [#00548708]
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Man this was the worst channel launch ever. It licked balls.
I forgot about the Second Coming program till I got home so
I only saw the pub bit. Fucking A though :)



 

offline bill_hicks from my city is amazing it is calle on 2003-02-10 07:12 [#00548802]
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Television nowadays seems to be obsessed with being
interactive. All this shit like "we value your opinion".
Fuck that. I want challenging televsion. I want television
to confront me and make me question my views. I don't want
public approved television as voted for by the great
unwashed. I know their opinion and it's shite. They're
brainwashing us. Can't you see? Soon television will be a
succession of interactive real life entertainment nights
hosted by ant and dec and davina and slowly your brains will
turn to mush. And then you won't argue any more. You'll just
consume. Just like the rest.


 

offline pOgO from behind your belly button fluff on 2003-02-10 07:13 [#00548804]
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BBC3 is just BBC choice with a different name. If you don't
like it don't watch it........................ but you'll
miss Swiss Tony !


 

offline danbrusca from Derbyshire (United Kingdom) on 2003-02-10 07:17 [#00548808]
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I might actually use some of the interactive stuff on TV
were it no so fucking slow.


 

offline bill_hicks from my city is amazing it is calle on 2003-02-10 07:17 [#00548809]
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A half hour "comedy" based on one joke. Hilarious.

Watching Swiss Toni is very much like making love to a
beautiful woman.

Except it's not. It's shite.


 

offline Ceri JC from Jefferson City (United States) on 2003-02-10 07:36 [#00548838]
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Yeah, takes the piss. Cable TV is something like 2gb+/sec
bandwidth... why the hell does the "interactive" element
appear to run on a seperate 2kbps line?


 


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