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are you fans interested in the views/review of this non fan?..I kinda got stuck watching it because a family member invited us to go... I wont bore you with my opinion unless you guys are genuinely interested.. |
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no no, i hate star wars too, tell all |
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Star what? Star Trek? Yeah Im down with that. |
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star wars, i think- oh and i like the new pic a lot more, amon, definately non-nauseating cheers |
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voyager is better than the new star wars movies. enterprise is better than the new star wars movies. george lucas hired robots to do the prequels. he tells them what to do through remote while taking a warm bath in his house made out of money. |
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well okay..here is a bit of a blow by blow... As with all of Lucas products..this film is about set pieces...the reason for the majority of the fan base's revulsion with the Phantom Menance was the dreath of setpieces..two in total..pod race and the final apocalyptic battle driod polygon massacre..which was so confusing that you couldn't help but cheer for the intricately detailed and imaculately crafted hordes of driods. Here there were about five set pieces hence it keeps the fanbase more engaged...and they are admitedly impressive...original? no not by the hairs on the chinny chin chin.. First of all let's establish something..Attack of the Clones to me looks reads and sounds like a mad scramble to gain ground lost to the Lord of the Rings...and Lucas's answer is rather than surpassing it by using hard work, rain storming and imagination..is by simply borrowing as much..and as often as possible..how else can you explain the casting of Christopher Lee as the arch nemesis and the mysterious transformation of the Planet Naboo into a cross between the Shire and the Elf Kingdom...or the suddenly gothic architecture of the planet with the bot forgery... this is getting a bit long.. next part coming soon.. |
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how soon is "soon"? |
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episode 2 is a non interactive video game. i had to restrain myself from screaming "why am i not playing this?" in the theater. |
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What happened to naboo? Looked pretty much the same to me...I don't recall seeing elves... |
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elves are fuckin everywhere, man. i can't even go outside anymore. |
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now ;B 1st set piece..the mad scramble across the xeroxed Bladerunner/anime city scape..Excess is always Lucas's solution..he will borrow (I remember this same chase scene being ripped off slightly more convincingly in Judge Dredd) or steal but then as if to wash down guilt with a shot of whiskey...he staurates and overloads...admidetly this is the best looking city scape that belongs in a cyberpunk flick and now inexplicably thrust into a sword and sorcery (read lightsabers and the Force) epic that I have ever seen..nice touch making all the Chinese/Japanese style ideograms and passing them for aline garble..the finsihing touch of this forgery I think...the chase itself is preposterous..a meaningless plot glitch that is a mere excuse to set up and deliver the city scape set piece...and dont those neon signs from where the worm thingies (Cornenberg or Dune..take your pick..and did I actually hear somebody mention Spice Merchants...SPICE MERCHANTS!!..helloo/..I see a lawsuit brewing) look an aweful lot like the Abe's FMV where he is strolling past the Meat Munchies etc signs?...Abe's makes a more detailed and blatant appearance later in the flick... |
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is that it? i don't you're being harsh enough on it |
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eh, whatever. coruscant looks cool. |
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Abe's is an excellent game, Attack of the Clones is an excellent film, what does FMV stand for? |
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naboo was full of magnifiect castles and the focus was on the architecture in the previous movie..now all of the sudden the focus is on lush fields where they frolic..(in a scene I called Sound of Music with two legged alien cows)...read Shire..and then lounging around by the waters in low key horticultural/shrubry laced decks...(the first kiss..another pointless scene in the middle)..plus the eventual wedding..) a total shift of focus on the locale..dont you think? |
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the sound of music.. exactly what me and all of my friends thought. |
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I am trying my best not to be harsh on it!! :) Xanatos..FMV is FUll motion VIdeo or somesuch...it's a Playstaion term for the CGI movie bits that introduce..forward and conclude the games... |
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hahaha.. |
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True, the scene with the fields was pretty lame. |
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no doubt..the CGI imagery is stunning... |
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when yoda started fighting the old guy i thought someone snuck crack in my drink. didn't it take like 3 people to write this movie? fuck.. |
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yep, FMV stands for full motion video, and although it originated with the Playstation as a different term for CGI (like flea pointed out) it has now pretty much become the term that everyone uses now-a-days. *the videogame geek takes a bow* |
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Oh, and um, I thought episode 2 had nice visual effects but a sagging plot, proof that Lucas cannot write a script to save his own ewok. *tries in vain to make up for the last post, which was totally unnecessary and useless* |
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blah blah this and that happens...actors present their best stoneface that they can muster..chewing bitterly on lines that are never more than plot acceleraters..and we arrive on Kamino... The closest that this film ever comes to originality..the sleek alien creature would have been a fantastic invention had not a vastly superior version of it made a guest appearance at the climax of AI. I said original..but that is by movie standards...if there are any XMEN comics fans out there they may recognize the clone factory from Genosha as well as pens in the fantastic age of apocalypse series...but it was still pleasant seeing this concept made flesh..also original if you can call a hybrid of more than two movie concepts as being as close to original as Hollywod can get..to me the factory was a hybird of the Matrix and 6th Day clones growing in pod scenes crossed with the gene horror lab from Alien Resurrection..plus countless episodes of XFILES.. The Battle between Jango Fet and Obi Wan has only confirmed my belief that the Jedi are too pathetically ill equiped to be the indestructable Force they are purpoted to being..I mean you can only deflect as many bolts from faboo rayguns..much and without the ability for long range the light sabers are nothing more than illuminated truncheons...and how they can weild control and terror over say a group of a thousand let alone entire galaxies is a confounding mystery to me... |
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The best seen has to be Anakin's nightmare shot. No! No! Nooooo! lol what the hell where they thinking? |
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and peole are talking about Natalie Portman's nipples whic were yeah very nice but what about Anakins nipples in that nightmere scene? Were they like..computer stimulated or something?...scary stuff.. |
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No, the best part was when Anakin was getting poetic with her by the fireplace! |
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Okay blah blah blah more Samurais..oops I mean Jedi's sitting around reading out plotline from teleprompters like the efficient newsreaders Lucas wants them to be and we cut to the Driod Factory... Abe's Adventure continues..the whole scene..the various levels the assembly lines..(they even found an excuse to use those wine barels from the abe's logo..amaaazing)..was like running arounf in the different levels of Abe's Oddysea in 3D but without the ability to navigate..avoiding being crushed by the various assembly line apparatus..was fun for a while but like the Coruscant city scape and the Kamino scene these set pieces just go on and on and on..without a logical conclusion in sight....all the cliffhanger escapes become utterly unbeilievable but kind of work because you are so well past caring.. |
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it took three to write!!! |
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[geek] ok, one thing's been bothering me w/ the prequels - they often contradict the stuff in the books / starwars universe stuff. For example (SPOILER ALERT.....) . . . . At the end of Episode II, we gather that the first death star is being designed by the winged creatures of geonosis/trade federation/whatever. But in the books, the architect of the death star is Bevel Lemelisk, a humanoid, and member of the imperial navy enginneering corps if i'm not mistaken. good lord, i'm a dork. [/geek] |
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and what's with naming the planet "Kamino"?? sounds like a friggin car model for christs sake. |
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"when yoda started fighting the old guy i thought someone snuck crack in my drink. " ... now I HAVE to see it. Ha ha, you underestimated the powers of the aphextwin.nu messageboard didn't you? I wish they'd just focus almost completely on the crazy monsters/creatures/special effects in a movie for once and can all the human actors. The plot could be simple, some central naive innocent character, preferably a puppetty one, must defeat 5 guardians all of a wicked design in 5 realms or something. Or just forget any plot and start right out and have battling monsters for no revealed reason, like that scene in lord of the rings when they fight that dude with the club or that dragon thing, just 60 minutes of that. |
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and signings by sheep fnargness superstars and maybe a dwogoop pop ditty or two and the only humans I want in there are sitting around in a camomile lawn sipping tea eating scones and exchanging deep and meaningfuls about the fart singers or dronacon X |
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you cannot begin to imagine what us ex Alien geeks (oh what theheck I still love Alien..I want to have Ripleys cloned mutated byproduct children) went through after reading issues after issues of adventures of Newt in the comic book finding her impaled on stray glass at the begining on Alien 3...still loved the movie but whata disappointment...I stopped collecting the Alien comics after that.. |
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yeah, I still appreciate Alien 3 as it was a turn for the darker side, but IMO it was still lacking. All I'm waiting for now is an Aliens Vs. Predator movie (and not just like Predator 2 at the end, and entire movie about the hunt, with some badass colonial marines thrown in the mix too ;) Oh and I'm a huge fan of the Aliens/Predator Universe. |
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I kinda dug AOTC...if you take it for what it is, a fairly simplistic take on the old Good Vs Evil fairy tale set in standard Sci-Fi land then you won't be dissapointed...I agree with a lot of what you're saying Flea but we're simply not the target audience for this sort of stuff anymore...(and neither should we be really...)... Expecting anything more from a mainstream movie like this is kinda like hoping that Enid Blyton's gonna explain the Meaning of Life in Noddy Comes to Tea or Kylies gonna explore Zen Buddism in her next single...it ain't gonna happen... I think that's where a lot of people's dissapointment with the Ep1-2 lie, they saw the movie when they were kids/teenagers and expect their adult selves to be similarly transfixed by these updates... I bet kids out there love Ep1 & 2...and have none of the adult worlds problems with it's non-originality or somewhat wooden acting...kids ain't got the experience to notice these thing so approach it much more positively... I bet a 13yr Flea would be bowled over by it...d'ya reckon?... |
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making excellently valid points jand..the only problem is that the hordes of Star Wars cultists are NOT 13 years old and still going and buying what ever is served blindly..dissent in those ranks has been small and gradual... funny thing... I actually watched the first first Star Wars series as a thirteen year old in the theatre and not being bowled over...but then again I saw it after Alien and Blade Runner.... Star Wars the original series was perfectly adequete for the time as is the new series...as I said the CGI was quite spectacular..but LOTR has shown us that you CAN expect sophisticated direction (other than the SFX) and characterisation from a big budget mainstream epic flick...I mean to me this insitance on directing actors of the calibre of Samuel L Jackson and Ewen McGregor (I mean come on these two can act like mutha fucka's :) ) like wood carved puppets is quite ridiculous when the big blockbuster makers like Bruckheimer can infuse witty dialogue and relatable characters in his otherwise ludicrous blockbusters (I am talking about things like The Rock and Con Air and Enemy of the State...totally overblown and over the top but still got characters that you almost kinda sorta remember and care for on a rudimentary level) |
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George took it a little too far w/the extravagant Aliens in the film. especially this one Jedi. if i'm not mistaken, he's only in one scene, in the circular Jedi room where Samuel and Yoda and the Andy Dick looking guy always sit. he's like a gigantic mess of white hair and tentacles, way too much to be looking at in the background, a total distraction. anyone seen this guy? i honestly believe it's George's humor... |
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George has a sense of humour? |
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everything has been said... but I had a nice time |
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bla bla bla.....zzzzzz |
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you almost sound sheepish there..remove the l's and count your self... |
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perhaps we should all realize that there are no more original ideas left... |
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sex addict monkeys that drink that drink methyl spirits by the gallon and then go on rampages on live talk shows harrassing audiences with torrid pantomimes from Shakespeares deleted/forbidden works.. there..an original idea.. it's not the lack of original ideas that's a problem..it's the lack of socially acceptable ones..that are safe for the consumption for the massess and hence would make preposterious turnovers... |
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preposterious? |
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my spelling sucks some times okay..but there you go I invented a new word cross between preposterous and mysterious.. originality abound |
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but preposterous doesn't even make sense... do you mean profittable? |
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