 |
|
You are not logged in! F.A.Q Log in Register |
 |
|
 |
 (nobody)...and 233 guests Last 5 registered Oplandisks nothingstar N_loop yipe foxtrotromeo Browse members... |
 |
Members 8025Messages 2613457 Today 3 Topics 127500 |
|
|||||||||
| |||||||||
|
|
is this an oxy-moron? |
||||||||
|
|
|||||||||
| |||||||||
|
|
I don't like the term electronica, but I believe you can apply aesthetics of electronic music to acoustic music. and I think much of the aesthetics of electronic music owe themselves to some acoustic music, particularly (This is just what I'm hearing) African music and classical music. |
||||||||
|
|
|||||||||
| |||||||||
|
|
nah, droid, plays live drum and bass. i don't know about acoustic though, that would require thousands of players. |
||||||||
|
|
|||||||||
| |||||||||
|
|
so... like mixing piano with "prepared" piano & like "bleep noises/ambient" stuff? |
||||||||
|
|
|||||||||
| |||||||||
|
|
so... like... umm DROID? i shall have to check out... you talking like a live drummer & bass player doing drum'n'bass? |
||||||||
|
|
|||||||||
| |||||||||
|
|
well...there is electro-acoustics...is this what you mean? |
||||||||
|
|
|||||||||
| |||||||||
|
|
i dunno... i'm just thinking along the lines of philip glass minimalism i suppose. coz he writes minimalist stuff for synthesizer & his little orchestra... i just want to do stuff that i (myself) can perform... without looking at a fucking computer screen. |
||||||||
|
|
|||||||||
| |||||||||
|
|
two bass players one normal bass one bass hooked up to effects pedal one crazy drummer. it is crazy. |
||||||||
|
|
|||||||||
| |||||||||
|
|
holy shit!!!!!!!!!!!! i am going to try and find some stuff... are they somewhat popular? or "heard of" for that matter? |
||||||||
|
|
|||||||||
| |||||||||
|
|
yeah...i was thinking it would be cool to have an orchestra-like arrangement where the people make sounds with various non-traditional instruments...as to imitate stuff you would hear in electronic music... though if think about it...in a lot of electronic music...the sounds are originally acoustic...but just arranged electronically...and the whole practice of making music with 'non musical' sounds...which a lot of electronic music is based on was first done before electronics were used for music...like the futurists' art of noise...where they made music based on the sound of machines and stuff...using weird instruments/stuff and then of course..a lot of the earliest electronic music was just playing with tapes of field/studio recordings..of non electronically produced sounds |
||||||||
|
|
|||||||||
| |||||||||
|
|
any specific tracks you could recommend? i looked for droid on soulseek...but got mostly copies of radiohead's paranoid android |
||||||||
|
|
|||||||||
| |||||||||
|
|
i think the new FOG album sounds acousticy, nice album |
||||||||
|
|
|||||||||
| |||||||||
|
|
First, we should define the terms "electronic" and "acoustic" music. |
||||||||
|
|
|||||||||
| |||||||||
|
|
i've heard jazz groups playing drum & bass. |
||||||||
|
|
|||||||||
| |||||||||
|
|
...but i wouldn't call it "electronica". |
||||||||
|
|
|||||||||
| |||||||||
|
|
Mike Oldfield is considered electronic even though he uses shitloads of acoustic instruments |
||||||||
|
|
|||||||||
| |||||||||
|
|
Yeah, Red Snapper is some of that kind. And Bands like flanger? It sounds like a jazz combo but its all made on a harddisk... The borders are blurred |
||||||||
|
|
|||||||||
| |||||||||
|
|
oh, never heard of them. but i hate when somebody tries to make "acoustic" music w/machines and ends up sounding totally unnattural. (not talking about artists you mentioned) |
||||||||
|
|
|||||||||
| |||||||||
|
|
i heard this one group on the radio maybe 2 years ago. they had double bass, fender rhodes and drums and it was a bit jazzy and fast but chilled out. it was nice. and i've heard something similar from 4hero, it wasn't nearly as good though. |
||||||||
|
|
|||||||||
| |||||||||
|
|
Red Snappers last gig in Amsterdam rocked, they've split havent they? released there final ep on Neuphonic last month. amazing live though |
||||||||
|
|
|||||||||
| |||||||||
|
|
Red Snapper split? damn, didn't know about it... Fat kaimo: yeah, 4 hero are too pussy for me too... |
||||||||
|
|
|||||||||
| |||||||||
|
|
yea red snapper split a while back.. its sad isnt it? |
||||||||
|
|
|||||||||
| |||||||||
|
|
Yeah, but I feel it's better that bands split while they are still good than to go on making crap music like too many bands out there... |
||||||||
|
|
|||||||||
| |||||||||
|
|
"sagor och swing" is a good example. |
||||||||
|
|
|||||||||
| |||||||||
|
|
Well, this topic touches something I was just thinking about this morning. Ever heard Hot Rats by Frank Zappa. It's an absolutely amazing album that reminds me of electronica in the way it is mixed. It really sounds like its made on a sequencer. |
||||||||
|
|
|||||||||
| |||||||||
|
|
Ah, yes, old Frank was really avantgarde in many ways... |
||||||||
|
|
|||||||||
| |||||||||
|
|
Yes he was. I know he was influenced by people like Edgard Varèse, a pioneer in electronic music. I can really recommend the compilation album: "OHM : the early gurus of electronic music : 1948-1980" Its a pocket History of electronic music and its bound to be interesting to everyone interested by this particular topic on electronics and acoustics.... |
||||||||
|
|
|||||||||
| |||||||||
|
|
man, Beefheart has got one of, if not THE voice of rock and roll, i've heard nothing rawer or with more feeling than the Captain. |
||||||||
|
|
|||||||||
| |||||||||
|
|
Yeah, Beefhaert was an incredible singer and his band was amazing... Too bad he got really fucked up with that disease he has... But he still paints and his paintings are excellent. Me and my friend did two DJ/VJ nights of Beefhearts music last winter in a local club and it was really great... We'll be doing Zappa in the autumn. |
||||||||
|
|
|||||||||
| |||||||||
|
|
yes, deffinately a loss to music. so too when Zappa died, another great loss. I always see the Van Vliet name here in Holland and think of Beefheart. i'll be playin some zappa in my electronic radio show on friday, dont know what to play though. |
||||||||
|
|
|||||||||
| |||||||||
|
|
Heh, how about "Torture never stops"? Or portions of that "Thing Fish" album. I heard it when I was 13 I think and was totally cofused. A tripple album... But what happened to the music? |
||||||||
|
|
|||||||||
| |||||||||
|
|
Oh, yes! Captain Beefheart! I love him as well. Bat Chain Pulla' : ) Autechre digs beefheart as well! Here is what they said about him in an interview: "Fried avant-rock bluesman Captain Beefheart is also a favorite: "Beefheart's fucking techno," he says, almost to himself, assembling another spliff. "He's ridiculously good. He's fuckin' really good, he fuckin' is." http://www.autechre.nu/cgi-bin/newspro/interviews.cgi?newsi You can read the whole interview at: d994248823,12473, |
||||||||
|
|
|||||||||
| |||||||||
|
|
Thanx, co-existence... well, anyone with taste will dig beefheart (at least that's my preposterous opinion) |
||||||||
|
|
|||||||||
| |||||||||
|
|
I would play something off "Hot Rats" and maybe something off "The Grand Wasoo". And maybe "Disco Boy". There is so much to choose from... |
||||||||
|
|
|||||||||
| |||||||||
|
|
How much of the Cinematic Orchestra is live instrumentation? Anyone know? |
||||||||
|
|
|||||||||
| |||||||||
|
|
Thats so true, Meho! |
||||||||
|
|
|||||||||
| |||||||||
|
|
Jonesy: my copy of the first album states live instruments for every track. Doesn't yours? Co-existence: let's hear it for Don Van Vliet!!! |
||||||||
|
|
|||||||||
| |||||||||
|
|
Dancin Fool is looking likely to be played. or You are what you is. IF I HAD A RELIGION DON VAN VLIET WOULD BE MY GOD!!!!!! |
||||||||
|
|
|||||||||
| |||||||||
|
|
That would be one hell of a religion. All priests would be wearing trout masks and all the church music would be in impossible time signatures. Ahh, I also really dig Don's saxophone playing, he's allegedly self-taught but it's extremely rooted in that new your post-ayler thing... |
||||||||
|
|
|||||||||
| |||||||||
|
|
hmm...now that ive heard a few of his tracks..i would say warp's new signing req comes pretty close to 'acoustic electronica' maybe plastiq phantom also |
||||||||
|
|
|||||||||
| |||||||||
|
|
oh and dont forget mood bells...no one seems to like this..but the tracks ive heard seem pretty neat |
||||||||
|
|
|||||||||
| |||||||||
|
|
mum. |
||||||||
|
|
|||||||||
| |||||||||
|
|
also, poor line condition. they are a live drum and bass act, fucken wicked. |
||||||||
|
|
|||||||||
| |||||||||
|
|
live as in live drums and bass, along with some keyboards and other equipment. |
||||||||
|
|
|||||||||
|
Messageboard index
|
|||||||||
