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Is IDM/Braindance too extreme??
 

offline USACID from Death Valley (Zambia) on 2002-05-03 05:52 [#00204162]
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maybe i'm a freq...but i listen to this stuff almost all
the time...when i'm not listening to my other favorite
music, classical/metal/classic rock type stuff.

Maybe i've become hardcore and desensitized...but when i let
my friends who are usually mainstream music listeners hear
any IDM artist...all i hear is u listen to some fuct up
stuff man...its gay...etc.

I know i like it and thats all that matters, but i find this
stuff better than any music out on the market honestly...it
doesnt' push any big contraversal issues...etc, its what
music should be all about...

i dunno i'll shut up now



 

offline The_Funkmaster from St. John's (Canada) on 2002-05-03 05:54 [#00204165]
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I love this music too man... it's just so interesting, and
the possibilites for the music are endless... it's an
aquired taste I guess, but I love it... God only knows my
sister has already lost hope in me... I bought Windowlicker
today, and when I showed her the cover she just shook her
head and laughed... :)


 

offline MO2 from Minneapolis, MN (United States) on 2002-05-03 06:24 [#00204186]
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that's how people feel about the music they love.....you
just happen to love a good kind...


 

offline Taxidermist from Black Grass on 2002-05-03 06:42 [#00204191]
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IDM does get boring after I while. I have been listening to
it consistently for about 4-5 years now, and am starting to
find it boring.

There still a couple really good new artists tho.


 

offline Laserbeak from Netherlands, The on 2002-05-03 14:37 [#00204515]
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Yeah, you're all desensitized hardcore gays if you listen to
this music ;)


 

offline spasmsixtynine from leicester (United Kingdom) on 2002-05-03 14:46 [#00204523]
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yeah i played some u-ziq to a mate who was pissing me off
playing ambient chill out compilation albums and he just
freaked out and turned it off. i always wonder what other
people hear now when i hear something fantastic!


 

offline Narkotic from United States on 2002-05-03 14:59 [#00204535]
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i've been into the scene now for several years, and i find
myself either listening to old stuff all the time... it gets
tiresome once in a while but sometimes i'm just in the mood
for it.


 

offline Narkotic from United States on 2002-05-03 14:59 [#00204539]
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i often ponder that spasmsixtynine


 

offline uzim on 2002-05-03 15:34 [#00204581]
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i made a friend of mine listen to autechre once (777), and
he burst out laughing...


 

offline spasmsixtynine from leicester (United Kingdom) on 2002-05-03 16:00 [#00204604]
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i still enjoy hearing stuff that freaks me out the first
time i hear it. autechre did this recently with one of the
tracks on peel sessions 2. was in bed trying to sleep and
this amazing melody was beating at my skull for like
10minutes. i freaked. now i love it


 

offline Riccardo from somewhere beyond the ultraworl on 2002-05-03 17:07 [#00204757]
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what rephlex claims' you won't want to hear anything else
after this...'it's true...now i find very difficult to
listen to some records i was very closed to before...i'm
worried for that...


 

offline joakim from Norway on 2002-05-03 17:11 [#00204763]
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i've been "into" this electronica/idm thing for a couple of
years now, and i totally love it. for the mainstream
listener something like ventolin or maybe autechre's dael
(opening track on tri rep.) might seem extremely harsh and
brutal, but we (that are familiar with it, and sure as hell
luuuv it) might think it's "plain" or rather "easy
listening" compared to other stuff.

it's all relative you know.

i once read in interview with radiohead, were a dorky
reporter asked them why they started to make such
"difficult" and "abrassive" music. that was when thom
replied that to them it wasn't "difficult" at all. at least
not compared to what they were listening to at the time they
made it. "it's not rocket science".

when i first heard ventolin back in the day, and some of the
harsher aphex tracks around, i could never find myself
loving that kind of music. now i can't live without it.

it's quite fascinating really...how one can get "familiar"
with music, and sort of "learn" to love and appreciate it.


 

offline joakim from Norway on 2002-05-03 17:13 [#00204768]
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totally agree. some of the stuff out there in the
electronica/idm genre really changes the way you
feel/view/listen to things. albums that i really loved
before i got into this thing now seem quite dull and "hard"
to listen to.

they can still knock out some precious, nostalgic moments
though...:)


 

offline The_Funkmaster from St. John's (Canada) on 2002-05-03 17:14 [#00204769]
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yeah I agree... but then there is also a point where you
become TOO familiar with a type of music, and you lose
interest... that sucks...


 

offline Riccardo from somewhere beyond the ultraworl on 2002-05-03 17:14 [#00204770]
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it's true..now I know that the best way to listen to music
is discover it step by step....I wouldn't like something
very easy to listen to..what i like is to enter to a
certain mood even if it takes a lot of time...


 

offline aneurySm from Ypsilanti (United States) on 2002-05-03 17:15 [#00204771]
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i remember when i was a kid
and metallica was the shit
you know back in the day stuph befoer the black album
that stuph seems repetetive now


 

offline jupitah from Minneapolis (United States) on 2002-05-03 17:16 [#00204773]
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i guess i don't listen to any specific genre
predominantly... over say a period of two weeks. i just
listen to good, emotionally powerful (for me) music, which
happens to come from many many genres.


 

offline numbplant from st- jérôme québec (Canada) on 2002-05-03 17:37 [#00204808]
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its been about 2 years my friend made me listen to afx
windowlicker and since i cant stop discovering new stuff and
i realize that i dont really discover fast
im still in the "basics" of idm
i dont see myself getting tired of electronic music its just
so vast


 

offline smeagle from Portland (United States) on 2002-05-03 18:33 [#00204866]
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what pulls me in is the almost 'anything goes' attitude...it
would seem as if there are less barriers in the genre, but
who knows.....

Basically, if I can figure out how any track goes of any
genre within one listen, the odds of me liking it are pretty
much nil.....

unless it's so fucking beautiful/perfect that it makes you
happy, like BOC.....


 

offline jimisteel from SLC (United States) on 2002-05-03 20:17 [#00204905]
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Most people, the people that listen to pop and alternative
rock, don't like music without lyrics.

For me the more out there the better. I love when
squarepusher goes nuts and makes a song 200+ Bpm. Like
track 2 on go Plastic weeoohhh YEah!


 

offline jupitah from Minneapolis (United States) on 2002-05-03 20:33 [#00204909]
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there's really no barriers with any genre now. non-electric
genres are incorporating electronics into theretunes and
vice versa, and there's just so much that can be done in
every arena and so many new arenas to be visited. i'm
really excited about music in general right now, and
electronica/idm is right in the center.


 

offline Apt_Zet from Afghanistan on 2002-05-03 21:17 [#00204987]
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It blew the doors open for me in music and that something I
thought was pretty much shut.

I love the fact people think your nuts to. I think this
stuff would scare my mom more than swedish black metal.


 

offline eXXailon from purgatory on 2002-05-03 22:27 [#00205060]
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All my friends think afx is too trippy. They like the
ambient stuff, but I always see their disapproving faces
when I play drukqs or RDJ album.

It's true what you guys say about getting used to
IDM/electronic stuff. That's because when a
hard-to-listen-to track grows on you, you raise your
"tolerance level". After a while, when you are used to the
more hardcore IDM stuff, the stuff of which you thought it
was hard to listen to before becomes normal.


 

offline REFLEX from Edmonton, Alberta (Canada) on 2002-05-03 22:34 [#00205062]
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Ive been listening to it for a long long time and listening
to all these different artists does get boring, I like a few
"IDM" artists, and thats it, before I enjoyed so many, now I
really only like Uziq, AFX, Squarepusher, and Bogdan.

Maybe some shit here and there, but I listen to a lot of
different kinds of techno so... and some metal/rock too.


 

offline flea from depths of your mind (New Zealand) on 2002-05-04 14:49 [#00205436]
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I have been listening to electronic music since my
preteens...back then it was ...Cabaret Voltaire,Fad Gadget,
Depeche Mode..then I got into early Industrial,then
Electronic Industrial, Techno and then via Aphex..to
IDM..it's always the same shocked response I am so used to
it that if my neighbours and workmates etc get into what I
am listening to or making...I get worried :)


 

offline The_Funkmaster from St. John's (Canada) on 2002-05-04 15:07 [#00205441]
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one thing about IDM, or electronic music is that there are
more options... the doors are wide open for what you can
do... rock music is usually restricted to guitars, bass, and
drums... however, bands like Radiohead and U2, who are, and
have, mixed electronics into their rock music are making
some fascinating music, are are showing that rock music
doesn't have to be totally restricted... but still, in order
for it to be rock, you need guitars... electronic music can
go anywhere...


 

offline nanotech from Sukavasti Amitaba Pureland (United States) on 2002-05-04 15:08 [#00205442]
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i usually get looks of distgust, and even get ppl calling
RDJ abulm "carnival music." I really love IDM, and think
that it's the shiznat...there were times where i would play
RDJ abulm in my old journalism class back in HS (on the
teacher's boombox), and the class actually liked it! they
were all over me at lunch asking me "what was that weird
music?" I think it's more open mindness, than anything
else...i've met musicians when i was on jazz, and classical
circuits who didn't dig IDM, knew who RDJ was, and gave mad
respect to electronic...


 

offline joakim from Norway on 2002-05-04 15:14 [#00205445]
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it's all about openmindedness, definitely. one would think
that a person into jazz would easier slip into electronica
music than a diehard rockfan.


 

offline jupitah from Minneapolis (United States) on 2002-05-05 04:24 [#00205971]
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i don't know that radiohead and u2 were the pioneers of
incorporating electronic sound into rock music.


 

offline The_Funkmaster from St. John's (Canada) on 2002-05-05 04:27 [#00205973]
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well, I didn't really mean to say that... just that they are
doing it, and they have showed ME that rock music doesn't
have to be totally restricted...


 

offline jupitah from Minneapolis (United States) on 2002-05-05 04:30 [#00205974]
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k, i see :)


 

offline tolstoyed from the ocean on 2002-05-05 16:13 [#00206442]
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has anyone reasonable exponation why this type of music is
called idm?


 

offline hexagonaldope on 2002-05-05 16:18 [#00206446]
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intelligent dance music


 

offline tolstoyed from the ocean on 2002-05-05 16:45 [#00206476]
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ok
but why is it called intelligent?


 

offline dingle berry from on a small plastic chair breat (Haiti) on 2002-05-05 18:15 [#00206552]
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desensitized hardcore gays?
sorry im just cutting and pasting previous replies


 

offline dingle berry from on a small plastic chair breat (Haiti) on 2002-05-05 18:16 [#00206553]
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who called it intelligt IDM IS A FUCKING LAMOID TERM SO THAT
RECORD STORES CAN EASILY GROUP OUR MUSIC WHICH THEY DIDNT
GET (UNDERSTAND) IN THE FIRST PLACE! caps fucking lock baby!


 

offline dingle berry from on a small plastic chair breat (Haiti) on 2002-05-05 18:18 [#00206555]
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intelligent! you mistyping bastard hands


 

offline tolstoyed from the ocean on 2002-05-05 18:52 [#00206594]
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and i thought its hard to explain



 

offline The_Funkmaster from St. John's (Canada) on 2002-05-05 19:04 [#00206612]
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yes that's probably it... record reviewers, and record
company people probably couldn't get the music so they
called it "intelligent", and well when most people think of
electronic music they probably think dance music, so they
then tacked that on after the intelligent...


 

offline The_Funkmaster from St. John's (Canada) on 2002-05-05 19:05 [#00206613]
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but I would like to know how old the term is? Maybe it
refers to bands like Orbital, and Aphex Twin, and Autechre
when they first started out, when their music was like dance
music... Orbital still is like dance music though...


 


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