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Cheffe1979
from fuck (Austria) on 2002-05-01 13:38 [#00202464]
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ok, it's been a while since gantz graf ep is online, time for a rating methinks!
personally i like gantz graf for its brutality and weirdness, in the beginning there even seem to be hidden some sort of melody. dial i dunno (it has this shepperds tune in it, so at least it's funny) but cap .iv is awsome, just a really great track!
gantz graf - 9 dial - 7 cap.iv - 9.9
what does everybody think?
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Laserbeak
from Netherlands, The on 2002-05-01 13:45 [#00202466]
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gantz graf - 4 dial - 2 cap.iv - 6
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HyTT
from Newcastle (United Kingdom) on 2002-05-01 14:44 [#00202497]
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Only heard two track..ratings..
gantz graf--pants. cap.iv-more pants.
like listening to static and nothing else for an insane length of time.
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teapot
from Paddington (Australia) on 2002-05-01 14:51 [#00202503]
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gantz graf - o8.o5 (the ending is a bit so-so i think too me)
dial - o6 (kinda boring, like the beats tho) cap.iv - 1o (masterpiece.)
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thethirdball
from Polly Pisspot (Canada) on 2002-05-01 15:23 [#00202518]
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gantz graf - 8 dial - 7 cap.iv - 9
That's the way I see it. I don't know of an Ae track that can beat cap.iv. Altogether an impressive release.
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naaic
from Uppsala (Sweden) on 2002-05-01 15:28 [#00202520]
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gantz graf - 8 dial - 6 cap.iv - 8
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Taoist Blockade
from Wales on 2002-05-01 15:29 [#00202522]
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Heres a review of Gantz graf, I think its pretty spot on.
http://pitchforkmedia.com/record-reviews/a/autechre/untitle d.shtml
Sorry I dont know how to link.
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Ophecks
from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2002-05-01 15:30 [#00202524]
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Gantz Graf is a disapointment for me, nowhere NEAR Confield.
Gantz Graf- 4 Dial-5 Cap.iv- 5
I don't see why everybody's praising Cap iv so much, geez... it's shit compared to their best stuff. I love the first 20 seconds or something, the beat is just insane with all these subtle little things in there, I can't explain... then it just goes right to hell, boring, boring track.
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marlowe
from Antarctica on 2002-05-01 15:38 [#00202528]
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interesting review
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digital messiah
on 2002-05-01 16:24 [#00202559]
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gantz graf - 0 dial - 6 cap.iv - 0
the ep is a total crap.
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Gonzola
from Stockholm (Sweden) on 2002-05-01 17:19 [#00202621]
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right, it's not as good as confield...i really like it tho, especially gantz graf and cap.iv
i recommend listening to it in headphones, i heard a lot more stuff then..
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Gonzola
from Stockholm (Sweden) on 2002-05-01 17:22 [#00202623]
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the ending bit in cap.iv is a mindblow IMO
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jupitah
from Minneapolis (United States) on 2002-05-01 17:23 [#00202624]
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i haven't listened to it since it first went online, but i loved it. i'm just waiting.
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jupitah
from Minneapolis (United States) on 2002-05-01 17:24 [#00202625]
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that's quite strange... dial was my least favorite.
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mortsto-x
from Trondheim/Bodø (Norway) on 2002-05-01 17:25 [#00202626]
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I give the whole thing 4 out of 10 or so. Not crap, but it was sure disappointing
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joakim
from Norway on 2002-05-01 17:43 [#00202635]
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i won't listen to it before i got the smokin' fresh copy in my hands for the first time.
i'm sooooooo looking forward to this one.
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Archrival
on 2002-05-20 13:23 [#00226532]
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gantz graf - 3 dial - 2 cap.iv - 5
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Ophecks
from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2002-05-20 16:56 [#00226826]
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Now's about the time that Gantz Graf starts growing on me, like Confield did.
But it just ain't happening. This EP is a dud.
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LPB
from Regina (Canada) on 2002-05-20 17:51 [#00226856]
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gantz graf - 9 dial - 3 cap.iv - 9
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LPB
from Regina (Canada) on 2002-05-20 17:55 [#00226857]
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I thought this EP was very good, but the song "Dial" was a huge waste of time for me. It was to repetitive, the beats weren't interesting, and the melodies didn't catch me. "Gantz Graf" was good, but I don't know why you people don't like it.
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cygnus
from nowhere and everyplace on 2002-06-02 06:10 [#00246246]
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i wont hold it against any of you, but grading gantz graf like you have really pisses me off
i don't think you really like the music at all or understand it if you are capable of giving it a total description with a single number
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cygnus
from nowhere and everyplace on 2002-06-02 06:15 [#00246247]
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that's just like systematic grading for students in schools, its bullshit and doesn't mean anything it's just there to categorize
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titsworth
from Washington, DC (United States) on 2002-06-02 06:31 [#00246255]
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i love how we're all over and done with this ep 2+ months before shit's even out. warp bundling the cd with the dvd is the smartest thing they ever decided to do, cos between the people bored of the ep, those who burned it to cd-r 2 months ago, and those who didn't like it, this cd wouldn't sell shit without the dvd. i know i wouldn't buy it if it didn't come with the dvd.
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cygnus
from nowhere and everyplace on 2002-06-02 07:46 [#00246285]
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it's obvious that someone, either warped or autechre themselves released the ep that early on soulseek for people to listen to. the timing was just too perfect.
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jand
from Braintree (United Kingdom) on 2002-06-02 08:43 [#00246316]
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yeah...I think WARP know for sure that Soulseek is a great way of getting things into the right hands...it would be intriguging to compare sales figures for a leaked & non-leaked release to see how having MP3s out there affects sales (ie..it probably doesn't...)...
I was kinda stumped by the first track initially...the other 2 I liked a whole lot more but now even the first has grown on me....
but yeah, it's not easy music to get into but what AE is?...If I want easy then I've the whole of the CD shop to choose from....
I'd give em each a 9 ... with the video GG gets a 9.9 (theres gonna be a few dropped jaws in IDM land once the video is released...be prepared to change your mind about GG)...
I wanna see the reedit of SBV as well...wonder why they've done a re:edit tho?...
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jand
from Braintree (United Kingdom) on 2002-06-02 08:49 [#00246318]
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I agree with you about the grading, cygnus..but it's interesting to see the variety of reactions to the EP...
Seems like a lot of people don't like it but Confield was pretty universally disliked when it came out so it's still early days....AE have never let me down with music, and that's something I can't say with most bands...
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titsworth
from Washington, DC (United States) on 2002-06-02 09:04 [#00246330]
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i think leaking the new ep a month in advance would've helped them. leaking it, what, 4 months in advance (and someone says they had it in 2001) i think is going to hurt their sales big time
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cygnus
from nowhere and everyplace on 2002-06-02 09:53 [#00246350]
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it was delayed
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jand
from Braintree (United Kingdom) on 2002-06-02 10:04 [#00246351]
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yeah...I wonder why it was so delayed...
The videos been done for ages (the poster I've got is NOV2001)...so the music must've been complete before that...
maybe due to the AstroB releases in June...that's another must-buy and perhaps AE didn't want the competition...
probably something stupid like a spelling mistake....
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cygnus
from nowhere and everyplace on 2002-06-02 10:08 [#00246352]
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and it's "due of the US release"
so sorry about that.
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cygnus
from nowhere and everyplace on 2002-06-02 10:11 [#00246353]
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right-- and alex rutterford spend 4 months creating the gantz graf video... so that song is probably a year or so old.
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cygnus
from nowhere and everyplace on 2002-06-02 10:13 [#00246354]
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ok then im going to sleep -- goodnight jand.
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jand
from Braintree (United Kingdom) on 2002-06-02 10:17 [#00246355]
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night, mate...
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eric_hard_jams
on 2002-06-02 10:33 [#00246367]
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gantz graf - 4 dial - 8 cap.iv - 10
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polar bear
from United Kingdom on 2002-06-02 17:17 [#00246609]
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gantz graf (5, not sure, i need to see the video) dial has grown on me, i like the way the beats bounce round my room (7)
cap iv is still amazing (10)
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polar bear
from United Kingdom on 2002-06-02 17:21 [#00246613]
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erm, i saw the reedit of second bad vibel at magic bus glasgow. i canny say i was too impressed, in fact theres not much difference just a bit more sketchy and the track wasn't any different
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polar bear
from United Kingdom on 2002-06-02 17:23 [#00246620]
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i'm sure ae were going to relese a video when tri repetae came out but obviously diddn't happen. i'm sure theres one to a trak off tri i saw it on liquid television years ago
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ExHore
from Stamford, Ct. (United States) on 2002-06-02 17:53 [#00246638]
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4 7 10
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Cheffe1979
from fuck (Austria) on 2002-06-02 18:32 [#00246658]
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the flow almost perfectly tho dial is a bit long
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Ophecks
from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2002-06-02 18:36 [#00246664]
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I don't think there's anything wrong with giving out numbers... I either dislike, like, or hate a track, and it's easy to gauge how much I like it with a number.
The EP has grown on me, a bit...
Gantz Graf- 4 - It starts cool, but I don't like the rest much
Dial- 6- I hated it, but now I think it's kind of neat in a cheap way
Cap iv- 6- growing on me, but the first 20 seconds are sometimes all I listen to. I HATE the late little crazy bit.
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Cheffe1979
from fuck (Austria) on 2002-06-02 18:39 [#00246666]
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i sometimes skip to cap.iv than rewind 40 seconds to get the flow
i'm really looking forward to the video
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cygnus
from nowhere and everyplace on 2002-06-02 18:47 [#00246680]
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those numbers dont mean anything once you explain them -- do you see what i mean?
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pachi
from yo momma (United States) on 2002-06-02 19:00 [#00246695]
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gantz graf is established as a solid, melodic groove for the 1st minute, but goes into a confused noise march up till about 3 minutes, then emerges into an aggressive groove up till it trips & falls at the end.
overall rating: 7.0
dial has a moderately fast bouncy groove (same percussion as lentic catachresis from confield, so it seems) following a backbone of chromatic vertebrae that comprise an indefinite melody. general structure is solid and constant from beginning to end.
overall rating: 7.75
cap. iv is melody-wise the most solid trac on the EP. the percussion; fast and dynamic. at the end the melody is frozen and eventually fades as the percussion accelerates up until the end at 9:00, where it spills in decomposition for the duration of the remaining 2 seconds.
overall rating: 9.5
so that's my rating/analysis of it
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polar bear
from United Kingdom on 2002-06-02 19:05 [#00246698]
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pachi? what, just goes to show it means something differnet to everyone what what? what. eh?
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pachi
from yo momma (United States) on 2002-06-02 19:08 [#00246699]
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actually i tried to be as non-opinionated as possible when it came to explaining it, but it's prolly best viewed by those who've never heard those trax before...
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pachi
from yo momma (United States) on 2002-06-02 19:09 [#00246700]
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then again, not if they favo(u)r suprises...
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pachi
from yo momma (United States) on 2002-06-02 19:09 [#00246701]
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surprises*
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hannibal
from United Kingdom on 2002-06-02 19:41 [#00246746]
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i'd reckon that WARP would be able to keep tracks a secret until much nearer the release date if they wanted to: they managed pretty well with geogaddi.
personally, i'm going to wait til it's released..i think i'm going to get ep7 to passify me..
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ggloom
from California (United States) on 2002-06-02 20:16 [#00246764]
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mmm can't wait to get my greedy hands on that fresh tasty beautiful son of a bitch
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Cfern
from Sacto (United States) on 2002-06-02 20:19 [#00246767]
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look, warp themselves pressed up the promos. 400 were made, they knew that it would create a buzz and since most don't have dvd burners (yet), people who normally just download stuff will have to buy it. I'm expecting it to sell a shitload.
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