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did anyone see joyrex announcment at watmm?
 

offline mrgypsum on 2025-03-01 16:46 [#02641537]
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quoted here
"After almost 26 years, I think it's time for WATMM to go
offline - the artists we follow aren't releasing as much
music as they used to, and overall there has been a decline
in new users/activity.

The site supports itself financially via the Google AdSense
ads and those who subscribe (and renew), but the vast
majority of users are participating at no cost, which I had
planned on enforcing at some point but simply haven't had
the time or initiative to do so.

Also, I am at the point in my life where even the minimal
involvement I have in keeping the site running just isn't
something I want to do anymore. I've got other interests and
priorities that are my focus, and I want to have one less
thing to worry about, even minimally.

I don't think it's realistic to sell or give the site to
anyone, and frankly I wouldn't be comfortable with taking
WATMM and doing something with it I didn't agree with. And
yes, it probably could still run on "autopilot", but someone
would still need to be the account holder/billing contact
for Invision, AdSense, PayPal, etc.

I've turned off registrations, so nobody won't register and
then find out the site is going offline.

As for when - I think ending it when it began on June 3rd
would be a nice bookend.

Again, I really appreciate all your support and help over
the years, and I hope you understand or at least can
appreciate my decision, and ask that you continue to be
respectful of the site and your fellow members."


 

offline mrgypsum on 2025-03-01 16:47 [#02641538]
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end of an era!


 

offline mrgypsum on 2025-03-01 16:49 [#02641539]
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he has a follow up as well.. i have been lurking here for
quite some time.. who keeps this site running??


 

offline Hyperflake from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2025-03-01 16:49 [#02641540]
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Phobiazero, runs it I'm reliably informed


 

offline Hyperflake from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2025-03-01 16:50 [#02641541]
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Yeah sad the amount of info that will potentially be lost,
hopefully someone's backing it up


 

offline mrgypsum on 2025-03-01 16:50 [#02641542]
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.... i seem to remember hearing that is not the case as
something had happened. but again i dont want to say what i
dont actually kknow


 

offline Hyperflake from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2025-03-01 17:00 [#02641543]
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aha ok, do you mean someones backing up WATMM, or do you
mean someone else runs zilty?


 

offline mrgypsum on 2025-03-01 17:01 [#02641544]
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if its still phobia then i am amazed as i thought something
had happened.


 

offline mrgypsum on 2025-03-01 17:01 [#02641545]
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i guess, i am meaning more of a "keeping the lights on" not
necesarily backing it up etc.


 

offline Hyperflake from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2025-03-01 17:03 [#02641546]
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ah right, i hope Joyrex has just passed it on to someone
else or at least keeps the forum archived


 

offline Hyperflake from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2025-03-01 17:04 [#02641547]
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i think he is seen from time to time on here, i don't think
hes dead


 

offline mrgypsum on 2025-03-01 17:06 [#02641548]
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he did reply to that and i think he wants the watmm name
like retired and called something else and he wants the site
completely shut down so its really the end of watmm.
obviously he cant stop how it continues well at least just
the name of whatever replaces it. thats if something
replaces it. i have been part of reddit, discord lol it
never seems to take off. maybe its just the "forum" aspect
itself that lends itself to a better sense of community.
idk, but its sad nonetheless.. he does has a point.


 

offline mrgypsum on 2025-03-01 17:08 [#02641549]
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sorry for not following up directly, maybe i had heard a
vicious rumor lol thanks!


 

offline Hyperflake from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2025-03-01 17:08 [#02641550]
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Yeah retiring the WATMM name and his association with it is
fair enough, if someone starts a new forum and migrates all
the previous 25 years or whatever of posts that will be the
best solution deffo


 

offline Hyperflake from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2025-03-01 17:08 [#02641551]
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probably a prankster on here, I think Belb would know for
sure whats going on if he sees this thread


 

offline belb from mmmmmmhhhhzzzz!!! on 2025-03-01 18:21 [#02641553]
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i'm, as with most things watmm, and indeed most things,
clueless


 

offline Hyperflake from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2025-03-01 19:03 [#02641554]
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oh sorry i meant about Phobiazero being alive and in charge
of this place


 

offline recycle from Where is Phobiazero (Lincoln) (United States) on 2025-03-01 21:53 [#02641558]
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Someone got contact from Phobz two ish years ago so he’s
probably still alive and anyways this site runs off the
continuing royalties of “on”, can’t see it ever going
away. Richard would want it that way.


 

offline Hyperflake from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2025-03-01 22:05 [#02641560]
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Perhaps he is like a precognition thingy in Minority Report,
on ice and connected to a dialup modem psychically


 

offline recycle from Where is Phobiazero (Lincoln) (United States) on 2025-03-01 23:45 [#02641561]
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Boing boing boing


 

online big from lsg on 2025-03-02 09:47 [#02641573]
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thanks @ joyrex

i agree with hyperflake that it would be good to have the
whole thing publically archived. but do they even have the
whole archive? is the whole history visible now?


 

offline zazen on 2025-03-03 14:29 [#02641602]
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Hello, zazen the watmmer here.

The mods from watmm are going to create a 'successor' forum
which (after a vote) will be called keyosc

keyosc

Its not quite up yet but I saw a preview and it was an
invision-powered forum.

Also people have been scraping the important content from
watmm to preserve it so we hope it will be online somewhere
at some point

Please come and join us at keyosc though, once its up....


 

offline recycle from Where is Phobiazero (Lincoln) (United States) on 2025-03-03 14:41 [#02641603]
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Xazen, thanks hope the move goes well, hate to loose decades
of good findings


 

offline Hyperflake from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2025-03-03 16:41 [#02641606]
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I signed up, cheers


 

offline aquagak from Berlin (Germany) on 2025-03-03 17:02 [#02641610]
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xltronic won in the end, Phobiazero the victor


 

offline Hyperflake from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2025-03-03 17:07 [#02641611]
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The Tyranny has ended, its like the tower collapsing in the
return of the king


 

offline earthleakage from tell the world you're winning on 2025-03-04 00:47 [#02641630]
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fuck you https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JmcA9LIIXWw


 

offline obara from Utrecht on 2025-03-04 09:49 [#02641633]
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Apart from the wayback machine - I assume some stuff from
watmm is already archived at archive.org ? Wild guess,
haven't checked. That's what I would do/do with music stuff
I value/don't want to lose.

Ofc nothing is 100% safe in any cloud, as recent hack attack
on archive.org proved.


 

offline Roger Wilco from Mo's Beans on 2025-03-04 10:24 [#02641634]
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IDM Kiosk


 

offline giginger from Milky Beans (United Kingdom) on 2025-03-04 12:45 [#02641639]
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Is it time to review WATMM? I'd say it was OK.


 


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