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..trapped in the 'must-be-on-the-edge' role they've created for themselves? I'm thinking about tracks like Gantz Graf. To me it's shit. To me it's just a left over from EP7. They've done that already and better on EP7 and Chiastic. To me they seem to be trapped in this mould where every song has to be clicky or distorted or a combination of both. Is clicky-dist really the future of music, if so, I want to start looking back.. -P |
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It's just their style I think. There's loads more to cutting edge than just clicks... |
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paco something is true, maybe they miss the ideas.... |
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clicky and distorted is getting very popular...ppl are starting to call it "glitch" and i really don't like the new ep, and doen't listen to them repeatidly enough to relate it to their other work, but there other bands that are doing this too. |
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I think they truly enjoy what they are doing and I also believe that they don't give a toss about what we think of it... If anyone have a ''must-be-on-the-edge' thing about Autechre its probably Warp records... |
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BTW I love the three minutes I've heard so far of the Ganz Graf ep. |
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im not much into autechre bu that Gantzgraf track is amazing! i love it! |
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Then get EP7, the best electronica album of the 20th Century! |
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thatks interesting... do you think that it's the label, heh, labeling AE's image to be this way? |
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This is a topic that makes ya think. If you go back into the past you notice that almost every other album (just LPs) are different. The aesthetics of Amber compared to those of Tri Rep are so different than like say EP7 to Confield. Maybe they finally found themselves and will be into this glitch style for a bit. I hope their next LP will be totally different. Gantz Graf is an EP...so...it would only make sense that they use that like they did Basscad EP or Cichlisuite...to further that LP. |
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they never did what i expected them to do, and now i think paco is right.... so he's theory might be wrong again... |
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Oh it's nice to hear so good words about EP7 since i'm getting it soon and i've never heard it before... *happy* |
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Zeiss Contarex, Outpt, Rpeg are so great; i wish i was you, hearing them for the first time again would be so cool... *sad* |
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i like the fact that they created themselves a "must-be-on-the-edge" role. as long as they dont create music based exclusively on that criteria. |
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Alright!!! I listened through Gantz Graf now and i loved it... Cap IV is amazing... really. Yeah!! It gets so mad at the end. |
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Gantz Graf is OK... I've had time to get into it and get used to it, and it's OK... but it's still disapointing. Confield was better, and EP7 was better STILL... maybe it's just personal preference, but they're actually DECLINING in a way, for me... the ''on the edge'' thing is great, but they've gotta do something better than this... I just don't think it matches upu to anything on Confield. |
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still waiting for the CD to come out to hear it... |
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i totally agree with paco on this..... i think Gantz Graf is pure crap.....and cant believe how could anyone call that progressive music....cuz i think they made that in hour or two,just fucking with confield sounds... anyway i would like them to get over that digital-jerking-we-dont-care phase... |
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I don't think it's pure crap... but I think the pretension is getting into the dangerously high levels. Gantz Graf really let me down. There's no impressive musical compostion in there, it's just noise... good noise, but still just noise. Fuck, I wish they could make another Arch Carrier or Rae or Bike!!! I know going back isn't their way, unfortunately... |
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i'm waiting for the release to hear it. the first few times i listened to Ep7 the music slid off like water off ducks back; i couldn't recall it aftwerwards at all. like i've heard the album 10 times and just started to hear the songs. |
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Hmm, I think Gantz Graf is not very disappointing. I mean, it sounds like stuff they didn't put on Confield, to some extent. I think with their upcoming LP they'll forge ahead and make their next big era of musical innovation. |
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from what i can tell from interviews Ae like to give the impression they don't care enough about roles and such to worry about living up to any preconceived notions of them. |
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I think they do care, no matter what they say. Because music is their hobby and their career. Sure, they probably have enough cash to live comfortably for the rest of their lives, but would they want to be known as an innovative band who fell into a trap and have it ruin their careers? I don't think so. |
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i think they probably do care to some degree also. but i also think maybe they unintentionally created that role by strict artistic method: create what U want. they might restle in their minds with these considerations, but i think when it comes down to it they forge ahead with their art with blinders on to most of the fans. |
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Hmm, that's a good way to look at it! I just know that they'll get more into melodies and away from all the clickiness in time. I wonder what the future holds for Autechre! |
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"thats interesting... do you think that it's the label, heh, labeling AE's image to be this way?" Yes, I do! To a large extent, anyway! Every label do that. Just look at how Rephlex promotes Astrobotnia for instance. Another classic example is how 4AD in the 80's shaped the image of Cocteau Twins, creating a stronger than strong - almost suffocating - connection to the label. The band simply could not deal with this in the end and left, leaving the fans completely confused... I dont think Autechre has the same problem with Warp, I guess they feel quite at home there. But its undoubtedly an interesting question what label Autechre would go to if they had to leave Warp. It would also be very interesting to have a look at the contract between Autechre and Warp... |
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i don't think they're bothered about it, actually. i've read quite a few interviews with them over the last couple of years (dealing with lp5, ep7 and confield), and it seems to me that they're just enjoying evolving and push their own sound further and further. i don't think they're all too caught up in what people want them to make next, or what people might expect/demand. i mean, back in the day when i first discovered them with tri repetae, it didn't leave me impressed at all. it was too...out there. but then, you gradually discover the underlying beauty and serenity in each track, it's like the album uncovers more of its layers after repeated listenings. as is the case with their newer stuff as well (even more so). their latest records is the ones i love the most, because they are the ones that are the most rewarding, i think. so, it would seem like whatever they are making, and eventually release, is way controversial at first, but then...just drag you in. it's in the ae nature i think to constantly evolve their sound. and don't we all just love them for it ? |
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...its a dirty job but somebodys got to do it... : ) |
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they dont evolve anymore imo |
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yes, joakim, i totally agree |
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Ep7 is one of my first Ae's. It's one of the poorest I think. Don't know what to think of their new ep. Have to give it a few more listenings... |
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I dont feel that Gantz Graf EP. |
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getoutahere! |
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I think they evolve for every one of their releases. I don't like all of it though. |
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with autechre i feel that the more effort you have to put in listening to it, the more you get out of it in the end. it's not allways like this, but confield is a good example of this IMO |
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Fuck, I wish they'd put some more pretty melodies in there... I'm always a lot more impressed at a great melody than I am at ''difficult'' music. It's a lot harder to do. I want another Incunabla or Amber. |
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I agree, Ophecks. I wish they'd explored more Amber-ground, before moving on. -P |
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seems to me thatll never happen...they like this jerking very much... so sad....and they have such potential... |
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