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I like 'Telepath', what's your favourite? |
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I am really disappointed. It is quite minimal, boring. It is like somebody else remixing BOC sounds. Album flows alright but it is the worst one so far. thumbs down :( To answer your question "cold earth" ) |
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I kind of agree, it sounded good on first listen then I played it again and all the tracks I liked sounded somewhat ordinary. It sounds good outside in the sun. In the house, meh. The beats are nice and weighty though, I'll give it that. |
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the last track I'm waiting for some sunshine to have a walk with this album. Maybe I'll appreciate it more then. |
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Personally I can't believe it but I am more interested in the new u-ziq album after buying the 12" :0!!!! |
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People always expect of their favourite artists, or just an artist responsible for an album that please-raped them for life to continue to climb. Doesn't happen. Once you've reached everest you're fucked. It sounds like BOC. I don't mind it at all. It's pleasant and i prefer it to TCH. But my goodness we're not going anywhere we haven't been, are we? |
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'Cold Earth', 'Sick Times', 'Palace Posy', 'Nothing Is Real', 'New Seeds' and 'Come to Dust' are for me enjoyable solid BoC tunes. I don't really enjoy 'Reach For The Dead' that much, and I have serious issues with 'Jacquard Causeway', so it's really hard for me to pick out the favorite per se. |
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I haven't heard anything other than Reach for the Dead so far...but I love that. Can't wait for the vinyl to arrive. |
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telepath actually stuck out for me to. felt very geo-mhtrth. im loving several tracks on this, making it an overall decent record. it would be easier to state that the only track im not fond of at all is palace posy. and im still surprised why jacquard causeway isnt getting some love. |
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My faves so far are: Gemini Cold Earth Palace Posy Nothing Is Real I really like the record as a whole. It's really good to hear new BoC. :) |
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"There's actually more use of subliminals on this record than on any previous album we've done, so we're interested to see what people will pick up on." |
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Come to dust |
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It's interesting that they still seem to be claiming it's all done on barely functioning vintage hardware. In recent years, I've failed enough blind tests to know it's foolish to say "this sound was made on synth x/software synth y" as I've heard lots of things done digitally that purport to be analogue, which have fooled me. The reverse, however, is less true: Generally speaking when I've said something "sounds digital" it tends to have been made on a computer and I usually find out later that I am correct. This was the first (and only) BoC release where something about the overall 'sound' made me think it had come out of a DAW rather than a tape multi-tracker and that several of the synths were softsynths, rather than old hardware. Maybe it's just artifacts of a relatively low quality stream and once I have the vinyl and CD in my hands and can hear what it really sounds like, I'll want to retract this comment. Not that any of the above matters of course; music is music and if it transpired that they made the whole thing in Ableton, it shouldn't matter. Although of course, with Boards, part of the magic is imagining them sat in amongst banks of vintage equipment, coaxing beautiful sounds from it. |
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Ceri JC- the Golden Ears of XLT But yah, that interview brings to mind the whole BOC working for 10 months on 10 minutes of audio in a shack ting. Wheeeeether they actually care and actually put that much, somewhat hidden depth in the album... who knows? Like chock full of subliminal messages? Oookay. But often knowing the truth behind the sound, can make it sound different. BOC are a whole concept and story, not just music. Somewhat like Richard Devine. Like listening to Ice Ice Baby and going "OK", then listening to it again if the story was that Vanilla Ice just jumpkicked his mother in the face 5 minutes before recording the vocals... which would then add a kind of WHOA. Or like if BOC were masturbating dogs during every working session. |
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was thinking along the same lines when i read the interview. though i really feel that it's inevitable to go through some form of digital converter, for any music that's produced today, therefore nothing is purely analog. i'm actually in love with tame impala's sound, because of the apparent ability to not sound digital. |
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the subliminal message-thing made me think of tool's '10,000 days'-album. they made one track, that layered upon two other tracks on the album gave you a fourth track. need trick, but it ruined to overall feeling of the album, because of the repetitiveness of reoccurring rhythm. jacquard causeway makes me think of that - complex patterns maybe with hidden messages, but sucky for the overall flow of an album. |
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Tame Impala sounds good from the couple of tracks I just googled. Not heard of him/her/them before. You're right about their sound, it could be authentic 70s pyschadelic stuff. |
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if you look at the of the lonerism album by tame impala, which is from 2012, you see there's loads of analogs mixed with digital equipment. the 4-track tape recorder might have a lot to do with the overall sound before final stages. |
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...not to say that they haven't been in pro studio, but it indicates a search for the sound, which seems to be successful. |
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There's no great song here. My favorite is "New Seeds" but "Jacquart Causeway" is good also (especially the first 4 minutes) and the last 2 minutes of "Palace Posy" also are good. The rest is not bad but still sounds boring to my ears. I can't hear that the artists are having fun on this record. It is dark, but I miss the ambiguity fun/dark that made their two first albums. This morning I was chilling at home, I played the BoC then the new Daft Punk and had more pleasure with that 2nd record. |
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they namedrop jaron lanier in that interview, which explains a few things. lanier makes some good points, but by and large i regard him as a paranoid old techno-hippie who has let his dissatisfaction with adulthood translate into a general sentence of doom for mankind. and it half makes me wonder if they're on about the downfall of the west, not nuclear shizz. |
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The whole nuclear shizz is an interesting subject. The idea of it (and the Fallout-like remnants of society afterwards) is both fascinating and terrifying. I can see why it makes for an interesting 'theme' and why it still hangs heavy in the minds of people of a certain generation. The thing is, even with North Korea dicking about with weapons tests, we are far less likely to have that scenario arise any time soon than we were 30 years ago. A good demonstration of this? The UK recently discussed doing away with our nuclear deterrent, Trident. The reason? Too expensive; £20 million a year to run. To put that into perspective, we spent £300 million on translation services in our courts last year for people who can't speak English and the Dutch just spent a similar figure on renovating a museum. Can you imagine doing away with Trident even being up for discussion during the cold war, even if the cost were 100 times that? I think for the generation who grew up old enough to be aware of it and that it kicked around in their head since childhood, it is probably deeply ingrained in their psyche and they'll never be able to "let go" of that fear, no matter how irrational it becomes. |
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This is true, of course. I remember being a kid at school and looking at a plane going overhead (it was doubtless just a regular passenger flight) and that combined with some grim grey clouds made me think at the time "is this the plane that drops the bomb". So there is now this kind of cosy nostalgic feel from nuclear armageddon, which seems somehow preferable to dirty bombs or having your head hacked off in the street. |
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would you care to produce a source for that £20 million per year figure ceri? sounds like bollox to me. the reason it's being discussed isn't that it's too expensive to run at the moment, it's that the subs we have are near the end of their operational lives and need replacing. greenpeace estimate the total cost of replacing the trident program at £97 billion, so if it takes 30 years we're dealing with a figure of £3.2 billion per year. so, er, check yer decimal place maybe |
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My vinyl arrived this morning. I have listened to it once only so far but I really enjoyed the album. It is in line with my current 'sensibilities'. I don't know the track names yet but the first track on side B was a stand out. It's pretty dark though. Maybe the brothers are having a midlife crisis. Do they live in America now? |
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Wait I mean the second track, 'Cold Earth' |
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i like jacquard causeway a lot but it's twice as long as it needs to be. new seeds and telepath are nice, the rest just sort of drifts by |
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My source: A news BBC Radio 4, about 2 months ago. |
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A December 2006 Ministry of Defence white paper recommended that the nuclear weapons should be maintained and outlined measures that would do so until the 2040s. It advocated the currently preferred submarine-based system, as it remained the cheapest and most secure deterrence option available. Costs for this option are estimated at £15–20 billion based on: - £0.25 billion to participate in U.S. Trident D5 missile life extension programme. - £11–14 billion for a class of four new SSBNs. - £2–3 billion for refurbishing warheads. - £2–3 billion for infrastructure. [2] These 2006/7 prices would equate to about £25bn in out-turn price for the successor submarines; the 2011 Initial Gate report confirmed estimates of £2-3bn each for the warheads and infrastructure. [9] These cost estimates exclude the Vanguard 5 year life extension and decommissioning, and it is unclear if new Trident missiles will need to be purchased for the lifeextension programme.[8] Running costs would be about £1.5 billion per year at 2006 prices. [8] figures from the actual govt white paper recommending replacement (and when was the last time the MoD managed to stay on budget?) either you misheard or radio 4 slipped up by several orders of magnitude. but seriously, have a think. £20 mil a year really sounded plausible? the real figures make a nonsense of your comparison |
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I admit, I was surprised by how cheap it was quoted. It was not my intent to mislead. Do you think we ought to scrap Trident? Should BoC still be worried about a nuclear apocalypse? |
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aye, they should go, we can't afford them and they're irrelevant in today's situation. i mean, what are you going to do if one day some beardy dude manages to van a rogue soviet one into london? hunt him down and nuke him and his mates back? speaking of radio 4 there was a great little play on the other week called "the letter of last resort" about trident and it's role after a possible all-out attack on the uk, not on iplayer any more but you might be able to find it somewhere or other |
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New Seeds is my favorite after ~5 listens of the album. Split Your Infinities a close second, particularly for that one sci fi dark bass note. |
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today it's Sick Times. lush beat and lush melody. |
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Sick Times Sick Times Sick Times tyvm |
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Uritual is dark and nice. |
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I haven't listened to it all the way through yet, but yeah Reach for the Dead is really great. Also, Jacquard Causeway really caught my attention while it played in my car earlier. Can't wait to check that one out later with some headphones on. |
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White Cyclosa and the last one but I only listened to the stream. |
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anything from the 2nd half. or the 4th quarter. it's still only a 6.5 good but not great. |
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they've been overtaken by their peers, it's as simple as that. basically it's rubbish. |
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it sounds like they did this 6 yrs ago. no progression, nothing new. no wait, its awful. i want my money back. |
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possibly the worst album i've ever heard. what garbage. i've heard more melody coming out of kenny wheeler's arsehole. |
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After listening to it a bunch more times I'm pretty disappointed. There are some nice tracks on there, but nothing I'd put up with the best tracks of BoC I don't think. |
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Uritual, Palace Posy, and Nothing is Real are my favorites. Nothing is Real is the one that gave me those bittersweet feels. Uritual is a spacey bleak track. Semena Mertvykh to me sounds like something they'd play in an 80's documentary about satanic killings or cannibalism. |
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this week I like 'nothing is real' best |
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I like that one as well, but I always find myself wishing it had more of a progression with the beat. |
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Growing on me. Definitely needs to be played in it's entirety for me to enjoy it. The best? No idea. A chord change in New Seeds raised a few hairs when it first took me by surprise. |
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It's got to be "Uritual" followed by "Nothing is Real" you fucking idiots! Do you know nothing!?!?!?!? |
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yeah, even a few delay bits [or something] would bring some variation uritual is ok, too new seeds is ok, too I find more and more tracks enjoyable on this album. Either played reversed or not. |
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Cold earth. |
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