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riddle me this xltronic: what is art? |
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you're walking up stairs. you reach the top, but fail to notice -- you think there's another step, and move accordingly. your foot comes down on air. how do you feel when this happens? |
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art is non logic at its core |
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the recipe for blueberry muffins doesn't describe how the smell of blueberry muffins baking makes you feel. a song that communicates how that smell makes you feel doesn't tell you how to make blueberry muffins (unless the artist is being cheeky). |
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Art is fart without the f. "What is aaart? Baby don't art me... don't art me... no more." "I wanna art right now. My name's Rob Base, and I came to get art." "Art lover come rescue me. Art me up, art me down- art me anywhere you want to baby now. I need art so desperately. Won't you please, come around, cuz I wanna share all artworks with you baaa~by" |
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i feel that art is like welfare for the children of rich white parents. they pop out a couple kids and one becomes a successful investment banker. the other has lesser intelligence and no real skills but through his upper-class upbringing he's really good at saying things like "explores the intersection between". the parents' friends support him much as one praises a small child who creates finger paintings, only the paintings never stop and they come with a lot of spurious verbiage attached. |
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"Art in the elevator, painting it up while I'm going down..." |
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Music has been described as the arrangement of sound, so I would argue that art is similar and some wanker somewhere has likely already come up with a cool quote to describe this. |
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Art is in everything done well. Painting is art, music is art, dance is art, food is art, grooming is art, fighting is art, living is art, thinking is art. When stuff is done poorly or without heart, it's just shit. Art is the result of honing of crafts to become transparent emotion-trasmitters, but something can also be labeled "art" when the experiencing of emotions comes from something crafted; intentionally crafted or by nature-crafting (events falling into place, etc.). This whole world is actually a place of art. Even the bullshit bankers and whatever the fuck NWO, fucking WWF WTC7, ABCBBD credit fuck shit is art- highly crafted manipulation of opinion to result in mental and physical slavery, with intention of perpetuating infinite wealth, etc etc etc. The trolls here are art-- crafting of character in order to act as some kind of counterbalance to shit by parodying self and dicks, for the sake of humor and sometimes provoking non-standardized thought. Everything worth doing by humans- consciously or subconsciously- is ultimately with the underlying goal of reaching the level of artful execution. Those who never get to that level in a craft, have either never put the required level of effort into any craft, or, they have spread themselves too thin, which steals too much time to develop to high level, or, they are in the mindset that mediocrity or even shittiness, is somehow an acceptable form of being. |
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The underlying beauty of art, is the amount of effort required to reach the level of artful execution. The only thing that could ever drive a person to be interested in a craft, to the point of understanding it so well- to the point of spending decades on it- to the point of keeping with it when it's not about the MDMA skin tingling fucking 3rd grade puppy love butterflies- pushing hard and pushing far past comfort zones in order to realize the craft and act within the craft as a direct and dear part of consciousness-- the only thing that can get a human to that point in anything, is passion and love. So all ART, is not just some shit painting or shit choon or whatever the fuck- when it gets to the point where Zeus nods at such efforts, it is a representation of the best qualities that humanity has to offer. Without art, we'd all be left with laziness and non-caring. Bullshit food, fucking living in holes dug in shit trenches, just ejaculating in vaginas covered in mold, cuz any relationship- any anything- would be too much of an artform; too much of a hassle. |
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what's the use of locking yourself in a room and becoming perfect at painting? then you'll have nothing to paint, except yourself in a room painting. |
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you need to constantly soak up new ideas while chucking/revising old ones. people that spend ten years "getting better at guitar" tend to produce very technically skilled, very boring bullshit. |
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i guess you're arguing for depth-first, while i'm arguing for breadth-first. |
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thing is, the graph is infinitely deep. you can always paint or play just a little better. spending all your time squeezing on that, and life will pass you by. it's almost as if you're making extended funeral preparations: "well, fun's over, i have to spend the rest of my life getting better at using cubase" |
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It's not about superficiality. Superficial aspects of art are merely indicators of potential emotional depth; potential artist character depth. As you noted, there are a lot of technically proficient artists, saying absolutely nothing. They trained under the false idea that superficial sparkle = depth. There's a reason why some random blind and poor blues guitarist with a 5 string detuned guitar and a rusty spoon, can emotively express more than most anything Yngwie Malmsteen has done. The reason is because one used the guitar as an extension of his heart; the other used the guitar for sheer speed. Thousands of aphex twin ripoffs- most of them saying jack shit, despite their sincerest attempts at emulating superficiality. In that space between the superficiality and the heart- that is where the art lies. When such a real level is perceived, it might be technically crazy as fuck, but it will be experienced fluidly, seamlessly, effortlessly, and will ultimately be transparent. |
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i suppose maybe it's all art. your whole life. kind of corny to say; i'm sure some trendy actor like james franco has probably dropped it in interviews. you can walk up and down the stairs with style, should you so choose, you know? make the whole shebang a giant performance piece. but that's not really what i was getting at. more like, look at leonardo da vinci. dude was into everything, and at some point wires crossed over and it all became just... his work. dissecting cadavers didn't just teach him about science; it influenced his paintings and sculptures. cast a wide net, pull back the big ideas, let the details slip through until they grow a bit bigger; let them get caught the next time you throw the net out. my loosey-goosey boxer-shorts montossori upbringing will square off with your disciplined tighty-whitey asian parent upbringing at the flagpole at noon. bring your best metaphors. |
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"I really can't say whom or what has influenced my work, it's a kind of facile question, as really I find my artistic life to be one long exquisite corpse with my mind alternating between a sponge and a sieve." --J. G. Thirlwell |
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I'm not talking about flaunting, mang. But yah- it's all art. Every artist realizes that everything is connected. Making ice cream makes your choonz better; eating grapes makes your drawings better, etc. Realizing that everything applies to everything, is part of artful being. True art is BEING. Perceiving the beauty that is art- that is all- comes from EXPERIENCING life- letting go-- experiencing the being of things. I remember people commenting on beautiful days when I was really young, like 6. I agreed and quickly learnt what it meant for a day to be beautiful by superficial factors, like clear sky, cool wind, warm, etc. But before I made those associations, I didn't get what it meant for a day to be beautiful. I didn't get it, because I was expecting to see something "special". Something other than what was there. And at that time, just because I learnt what others were talking about with "beautiful day", I still didn't feel it. I got it, but actually, I didn't get shit. I just made the associations. It wasn't until forever later, that I realized that everything was there all along. The beauty was there all along, and there was actually nothing to see into. It wasn't about analyzing this temperature or that amount of clouds-- it was just about experiencing something that those combined factors gave birth to. Then eventually, the sun, the clouds, the wind, all that- although I know they're there now- they became transparent factors and totally minor when compared to the greatness of the total resulting experience. The greatest of manmade art has this quality. It's not about the paint, the surface, or the vintage synth or cubaseloops or whatever-- it's about "the beautiful day" shining through all of that. |
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"just ejaculating in vaginas covered in mold" You say that like it's a bad thing. |
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art is when u take a paint brush and draw stuff on a square i think scultures are art 2 but i dunno how they make those |
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Art is a mass supervised activity and waste of time where people in "college" are instructed to cut black triangles out of construction paper and glue them to white paper to like, learn about negative space or some excuse. This is what art is because it is what the authorities say it is and they own all the letters in the alphabet. The final output successfully helps kill a tree and it is graded by the authority even though art is subjective. You involuntarily pay for the authority to do this with your taxes even though you don't want them to. Whoever wastes the most time and does the least creative thing is rewarded the highest paying position at McDonalds. So art is ultimately a complex odd indirect way for humans to compete economically, like rutting or something. |
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art transcends morality. you could fall in love with the music written by your executioner |
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actually, didn't really mean that as a reply to you. poops |
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You could be your executioner's art. |
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"art transcends morality." Nice, man. |
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I think we can all forgive Geowrge W. Bush for that little Iraq booboo because of his wonderful . |
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Paintings are essentially 'retro-photography.' People still like them the same as they like VHS tapes or NES games. Of course you can play the game on a HD bluray DVD but doesn't don't it look cool on a tapped over VHS?? People couldn't always take pictures and once they die they forget so they would paint it down, and just like polaroids were made obsolete by digital photography hipsters still like them because they remember the old days and want to be different. Well hotel managers are essentially like hipster, they collect this bad art and put it on their hotel walls even though everyone know its boring but I guess that is supposed to be ironic or whatever. |
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