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freqy
on 2012-11-17 18:28 [#02444633]
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why?
i thought Israel would be peaceful and spiritual. whats going on?
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freqy
on 2012-11-17 18:28 [#02444634]
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*Israel
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corticalstim
from Canada on 2012-11-17 19:43 [#02444639]
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"That's -OUR- holy land!"
Unjustifiable
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EpicMegatrax
from Greatest Hits on 2012-11-17 20:13 [#02444642]
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someone won the US election, time to start some shit
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nightex
from Šiauliai (Lithuania) on 2012-11-17 20:35 [#02444645]
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why should we care, we can't change anything???????
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-crazone
from smashing acid over and over on 2012-11-17 21:22 [#02444648]
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YHWH is pissed
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anirog
on 2012-11-17 22:03 [#02444649]
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Skylla ask's know how much?
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big
from lsg on 2012-11-17 23:18 [#02444652]
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because humanity, dumass
put the israelites in australia or something
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gingaling
from Scamworth (Burkina Faso) on 2012-11-17 23:33 [#02444653]
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tbh what the fuck are palestine doin lauchin shit back at the bigger boys, i admire the resistance, but their gonna get some almighty whoopin...
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anirog
on 2012-11-17 23:36 [#02444654]
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Who knows perhaps one night she gets drunk and bombs a little american shit
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Ultratech
on 2012-11-18 00:05 [#02444656]
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protocols of the elders of zion
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larn
from PLANET E (United Kingdom) on 2012-11-18 01:19 [#02444657]
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This shit is going to get worse, Israel don't mess around when it comes to military action
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sk8erbetty
from Morgantown (United States) on 2012-11-18 01:23 [#02444658]
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The Mossad will fuck them up
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EVOL
from a long time ago on 2012-11-18 07:57 [#02444667]
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Shall we play a game?
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obara
from Utrecht on 2012-11-18 08:47 [#02444670]
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someone received nobel peace price, sat quietly for 4 years , now its time to MAKE SOME FUCKIN NOISE
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Torture Garden
from Feelin' 2Pacish on 2012-11-18 10:02 [#02444672]
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thread reaction
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debaser
on 2012-11-18 15:25 [#02444678]
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The israeli army are known to be the worlds most cowardly soldiers.
And not to sound cocky, but palestinians would never submit to zionists because they grow a way tougher life compared to an israeli. Just watch Arna's Children and you'll see exactly what i mean.
We are faced with images .like this daily. What kind of community would stand by after seeing their women and children subjected to such abuse, surely only cowards.
And by the way this aint a matter of religion, christians are treated as bad.
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welt
on 2012-11-18 16:27 [#02444679]
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The Middle East Problem
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sk8erbetty
from Morgantown (United States) on 2012-11-18 17:39 [#02444681]
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=D
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Falito
from Balenciaga on 2012-11-18 17:48 [#02444682]
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yann_g
from now on 2012-11-18 17:59 [#02444685]
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It's their fucking land, they were ordered by their Lord to kill everybody getting in the way.
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EpicMegatrax
from Greatest Hits on 2012-11-18 18:19 [#02444688]
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debaser, have you ever actually met an israeli/palestinian soldier, or are you judging them via youtube from your wheelie chair?
i think you're just one of those that fire off baseless bullshit simply because it's what you want to hear
i refuse to pick a side in this fight, because both sides are retarded.
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gingaling
from Scamworth (Burkina Faso) on 2012-11-18 18:42 [#02444691]
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seems a little biased....
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yann_g
from now on 2012-11-18 18:48 [#02444692]
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If we follow your logic Epic, nobody can have an opinion about anything. We HAVE to rely on somebody else's experience/knowledge/whatever.
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EpicMegatrax
from Greatest Hits on 2012-11-18 18:57 [#02444694]
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what a ridiculous oversimplification. never speak to me again
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yann_g
from now on 2012-11-18 19:30 [#02444695]
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Everything is oversimplificated always, that's why life's shit, don't blame it on me! Plus i have my samples hard drive back, I can make music again, with genuine Amiga samples if i so wish!
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EpicMegatrax
from Greatest Hits on 2012-11-18 19:41 [#02444696]
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it's one thing to get your news off the internet, it's another thing to hurl insults and cite some idiot's youtube video as evidence. yes, in some asshole, hair-splitting nerd universe, i guess the two have similarities, and you can wax solipsistic all by yourself in your skull, you are all alone in there
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gingaling
from Scamworth (Burkina Faso) on 2012-11-18 20:17 [#02444699]
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peace song
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anirog
on 2012-11-18 21:13 [#02444701]
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sanctions
pronoun president
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yann_g
from now on 2012-11-19 00:39 [#02444709]
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man you really got angry for somebody who doesn't bother to take a side. hadn't read debaser's post, i actually would've more or less agreed with you, but don't whine when somedy hurls insults about people you called retarded yourself.
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AMPI MAX
from United Kingdom on 2012-11-19 04:14 [#02444711]
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lol i really enjoy that
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EpicMegatrax
from Greatest Hits on 2012-11-19 06:30 [#02444714]
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dear yann_g,
i'm terribly sorry i pretended to get annoyed at you for jumping in with a stupid comment after failing to to realize i was directly replying to an even stupider comment
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debaser
on 2012-11-19 10:50 [#02444720]
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I am born to palestinian parents Epicmega, but i didn't grow up there. I don't identify with any country as my own but still, my family has been directly affected by the brutality. My dads father was shot dead at home in Jenin when my dad was 12 yrs old, his family was evicted afterward (9 children at the time). I know what you mean that both sides are retarded but thats just the nature of such a conflict.
I wrote my comment above cause i always found it hard to get my message across to brits and americans about the way we see things, im not trying to insight dread though or start any arguments really..
But to answer your question fully, i have actually met a few IDF soldiers at a few places around the world. Some are very good people who i consider like brothers, but to be honest too many of them are bad people.
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debaser
on 2012-11-19 10:54 [#02444721]
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bro, judging someone you haven't even met by a comment contradicts exactly what you were claiming to be against.. just sayin
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EpicMegatrax
from Greatest Hits on 2012-11-19 21:07 [#02444731]
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that's what i like about this board, everyone has a rationalization. i thought it was a stupid comment made by some ignorant person; turns out it was a stupid comment made by someone with a bit of real experience !
violence becomes a cycle when you take the attitude you have: they killed my grandfather, they're all disgusting bastards... boom, suddenly they're not fellow human beings any more, they're rats to be killed. so you kill them. meanwhile, they feel the same way about you. each generation, more hate, more revenge. the only way this shit stops is if both sides say, "a lot of terrible things have happened, and revenge will only result in more terrible things happening to my grandchildren." that will never happen if you have a chip on your shoulder.
if you strip away all the hate and human tragedy and religious horseshit, the conflict boils down to nothing more than a pissing match over an important piece of land. pointless.
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EpicMegatrax
from Greatest Hits on 2012-11-19 21:27 [#02444733]
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i actually spent a month in israel (on business). military service is mandatory; everyone was either in it or moved there after they were too old. the whole country is the IDF, more or less. i found it quite surreal -- guys walking down the street with their girlfriends, carrying machine guns. people paid the soldiers with guns no more mind than they would have businessmen in suits.... until i did the tourist thing and went to jerusalem, the via dolorosa, etc. there, the mood was much more tense. i saw that youtube video of people heckling soldiers, and my thoughts were: these guys are right to be scared. they don't know if they're going to get shot, or have rocks thrown at them, or what.... easy to call someone a coward when you're not in their shoes.
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freqy
on 2012-11-19 23:24 [#02444739]
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epics is wise. : )
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sk8erbetty
from Morgantown (United States) on 2012-11-20 01:26 [#02444743]
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and freqy is fun :)
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Geoffrey Mills
on 2012-11-20 02:37 [#02444745]
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let's simplify a really complex situation on a messageboard and insult the ppl involved just in case indirectly. you fucking twats.
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anirog
on 2012-11-20 06:34 [#02444749]
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Kicking the hobbit
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EpicMegatrax
from Greatest Hits on 2012-11-20 07:16 [#02444750]
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the world's problems to be solved on the internet.
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anirog
on 2012-11-20 07:24 [#02444751]
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ב
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Epic = Liar
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anirog
on 2012-11-20 08:28 [#02444755]
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he can't hold his number two
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Monoid
from one source all things depend on 2012-11-20 09:56 [#02444765]
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I hate how the left is always on the side of such idiots like the hamas. They piss me off with their blood and soil ideology and their obsession with the palestinian people. It is a fact tha Israel, a multi ethnic society comes closer to a progressiv communist society than the sourrounding arab states.
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Monoid
from one source all things depend on 2012-11-20 09:58 [#02444766]
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I hate how the left is always on the side of such idiots like the hamas. They piss me off with their blood and soil ideology and their obsession with the palestinian people. It is a fact tha Israel, a multi ethnic society comes closer to a progressiv communist society than the sourrounding arab states.
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anirog
on 2012-11-20 10:04 [#02444767]
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I'll get some
LAZY_TITLE
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2012-11-20 10:20 [#02444769]
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Yes, I too find it amusing/tragic that the place that has probably the best real world implementation of communes is so loathed by the left.
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EpicMegatrax
from Greatest Hits on 2012-11-20 11:08 [#02444771]
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BAGEL_WARFARE
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yann_g
from now on 2012-11-20 12:02 [#02444772]
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Monoid, just because your ancestors slaughtered Jews doesn't mean you have to stand on Israel's side now. The Torah is an evil book ordering them to kill, for their Land was promised to the Hebrews. These people are sick and don't belong there. The creation of Israel was a mistake. If they were wise they would just leave and ask for the green card.
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debaser
on 2012-11-20 12:36 [#02444776]
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Thanks for the perspective Epicmega, i completely get what you mean. About Jerusalem especially, I've been as well in 2002..
Anyway there's no point in taking sides here. The way i see it is a matter of standing right in the middle. On one end you have Hamas and on the other end you have a Zionist government (neither represent the good people or innocent).
Monoid your statement is totally false, to put it bluntly.. No one from the left ever defended Hamas, they say palestinians have a right to resist, not attack israelis indescriminantly. And Israel is not a multi ethnic society as you make it seem, do some research on how they keep black jews in ghettos and refuse them equal rights. And that's without mentioning how they treat the arab. The main reason the "left" focus on palestinians is cause in todays world you can't go about attacking israel verbally at ease, for obvious reasons. So they focus on the palestinian story to bring to light what's happening.
Everyone should bear in mind that they all lived peacefully together in the early-mid 1900's, not just peacefully but as equals. They still do in some places (Iran has a healthy jewish population for example) and it'll be possible in israel if it weren't for all the blame and intimidation (apart from religious drive which lurks in the background).
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