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A SERIOUS QUESTION
 

offline dingle berry from on a small plastic chair breat (Haiti) on 2012-08-24 08:14 [#02439945]
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What/Why
Makes you choose to listen to the music you listen too?

Are you an avid collector? Do you feel the need to collect
all of an artists
Albums even if you don't like the content of all of them?

Do you purchase music of a particular music because you are
part of a scene/tribe e.g. Your a punk/raver/junglist

Do you choose music because friends or the radio or net
Influence you?

Are you a bargain bin chancer just randomly choosing
albums?

Are you a downloading freeloader never purchasing anything
ever?

Perhaps you are a musical snob only listening to underground
obscure music because you think it's better than other
genres?

I really want to know if you know why you are listening to
what you are listening too?
I'm wondering if there is perhaps some deeply psychiatric
reason we make these choices? Is musical obsession a form of
addiction? Did we catch our habit from somebody else?

Are we aware that most music is created in order to satisfy
our tastes?

GO

ARGUE DEBATE THINK!

Cheers guys/gals


 

offline EpicMegatrax from Greatest Hits on 2012-08-24 08:37 [#02439947]
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> What/Why
> Makes you choose to listen to the music you listen too?

i listen to lots of different fings for lots of different
reasons. time and place, ya? when i'm writing code, i like
big beat, like prodigy and fatboy slim (my code comes out
perfectly tabbed). when i'm high on saturday morning i like
luke vibert. when i'm drunk on saturday night i like
vitalic.

> Are you an avid collector? Do you feel the need to
collect
> all of an artists
> Albums even if you don't like the content of all of them?

no. my obsessions lead me to try and dig into the works
deeper for further comprehension (and then onto related
acts), not to collect token physical objects.

> Do you purchase music of a particular music because you
are
> part of a scene/tribe e.g. Your a punk/raver/junglist

yes, but only because i audition a lot more stuff in that
particular scene any given week. there's no loyalty, just
more opportunity/attention span.

> Do you choose music because friends or the radio or net
> Influence you?

all of the above. mostly the net. i tend to pick at the
edges of my personal music graph and gradually expand.

> Are you a bargain bin chancer just randomly choosing
> albums?

well, i love getting lost in a used records store, but i
don't wind up bothering too often.... but if you mean
treating the internet as a giant bargain bin, then
absolutely. it gets a bit more painstaking when you're in a
store and have to pay for it and stuff, and worry about
whether your CD rack has room.

> Are you a downloading freeloader never purchasing
anything
> ever?

while i'm certainly one of those chaps that makes the RIAA
bitch and moan because i don't buy $20 CDs with one good
track on 'em, if something's good i usually buy it. in
general, i dislike buying CDs, as i just rip 'em and then
listen to an mp3. vinyl is nicer to buy, because any time i
fire up the turntable i tend to be more serious and in the
mood (otherwise i just go with the lazier, easier mp3) and
it's a proper experience


 

offline EpicMegatrax from Greatest Hits on 2012-08-24 08:42 [#02439949]
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cont'd

> Perhaps you are a musical snob only listening to
underground
> obscure music because you think it's better than other
> genres?
i'm mostly here because you guys are fun to shoot the shit
with really. don't mistake that for some sort of genre
loyalty

> I really want to know if you know why you are listening
to
> what you are listening too?
I really want to know why grammar is so hard for people on
the internet. TOOOOO HARD

> I'm wondering if there is perhaps some deeply psychiatric
> reason we make these choices? Is musical obsession a form
of
> addiction? Did we catch our habit from somebody else?

i think humans seek music that pushes emotional buttons.
different sorts want different buttons pushed, in different
ways. toggle or momentary? SPDT?

> Are we aware that most music is created in order to
satisfy
> our tastes?

i think there's a bit of elitist nonsense going about. "I
JUST MAKE MUSIC FOR MYSELF I AM PURE AND PERFECT." my sense
is that it's a form of communication, and you'd have to be a
bit messed up to passionately write messages to no one.


 

offline dingle berry from on a small plastic chair breat (Haiti) on 2012-08-24 08:45 [#02439951]
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Epicmegatrax your a legend!!

Hope others get involved!!

I love this stuff really interesting especialy
Just bouncing ideas around that make people really think!


 

offline Four Giants on 2012-08-24 09:14 [#02439952]
Points: 271 Status: Lurker



> What/Why
> Makes you choose to listen to the music you listen too?

It depends on what I'm doing... When reading comics, I like
to listen to some more chilled out stuff, like Christ., Mrs.
Jynx, or Kettel or something. If I'm playing GTA, then
probably Gojira or Datachi or something like that. When
going to sleep, maybe Swod or Takagi Masakatsu. When I'm
painting or driving though, it's fair game between all the
artists I listen to.

> Are you an avid collector? Do you feel the need to
collect
> all of an artists
> Albums even if you don't like the content of all of them?

nope. I keep the stuff I like, ditch the stuff I'm not
feeling after a while. There's too much good music out there
to focus on sounds you don't enjoy.

> Do you purchase music of a particular music because you
are
> part of a scene/tribe e.g. Your a punk/raver/junglist

Occasionally, but a lot of the times (especially with
electronic music) I'll enjoy something because it is both
pleasant to the ears, and is a particular type of sound I
haven't yet heard before.

> Do you choose music because friends or the radio or net
> Influence you?

Most of my friends don't enjoy my niche taste of music, but
recently, Pandora has helped me in discovering new artists.

> Are you a bargain bin chancer just randomly choosing
> albums?

Neither, I listen to something after I know the artist has a
particular sound I'm interested in hearing.

> Are you a downloading freeloader never purchasing
anything
> ever?

I purchase something after I can truly appreciate what the
artist is trying to communicate, (If I like the album, I buy
it, vinyl if available). Otherwise I'd be spending all my
cash on trying to find new music, I have too many interests
to be doing that.

> Perhaps you are a musical snob only listening to
underground
> obscure music because you think it's better than
otherwise
> genres?

That's fair to say, because I do think what I listen to is
better than other genres, that's why I listen to it.


 

offline Four Giants on 2012-08-24 09:14 [#02439953]
Points: 271 Status: Lurker



MORE:

> I really want to know if you know why you are listening
to
> what you are listening too?
> I'm wondering if there is perhaps some deeply psychiatric
> reason we make these choices? Is musical obsession a form
of
> addiction? Did we catch our habit from somebody else?

Aren't all obsessions a form of addiction? Obsession is not
about what you like, but the WAY in which you like them. The
longer you have been doing something you enjoy, the more you
can appreciate it. So yes, I believe the music we listen to
can be an obsession, and therefore an addiction. I don't
belive this is a bad thing.

> Are we aware that most music is created in order to
satisfy
> our tastes

I think so, yes. All music is created in order to satisfy a
particular taste. Even if that taste is only applicable to
the creator of the music, though I have to say that's an odd
way of approaching music. Music is a language, and you can
be fluent in that language as long as it's one that speaks
to you. People can hear an electronic track and "not get it"
simply because it's not the sound that resonates with them.
It's not music that applies to their particular taste.


 

offline Ceri JC from Jefferson City (United States) on 2012-08-24 09:39 [#02439954]
Points: 23533 Status: Moderator | Followup to dingle berry: #02439945 | Show recordbag



What/Why
Makes you choose to listen to the music you listen too?

Usually one of two reasons: I enjoy it as a thing in itself,
or it enhances a particular mood I am already feeling and
makes me 'feel' more deeply.

Are you an avid collector?

I used to collect a lot more. Now I tend to just get tracks
I like and make my own playlists. There is still a bit of
collector in me; the last couple of BoC releases have been
pretty weak IMO, yet I bought them because it was BoC. If
they'd been by Tycho, I wouldn't have.

Do you purchase music of a particular music because you are

part of a scene/tribe e.g. Your a punk/raver/junglist

No, I dislike collectivism.

Do you choose music because friends or the radio or net
Influence you?

They might expose me to new music I might otherwise not
hear, but they wouldn't influence whether or not I liked
it.

Are you a bargain bin chancer just randomly choosing
albums?

Only when they're really cheap, or I know an artist/producer
involved in the record.

Are you a downloading freeloader never purchasing anything
ever?

No.

Perhaps you are a musical snob only listening to underground

obscure music because you think it's better than other
genres?

No. Last three releases I bought were Glass Teeth - Flesh
Palace (very obscure), Ok Computer (popular, but indie
enough to be cool), Timbaland - Shock Value (pop as hell).

Are we aware that most music is created in order to satisfy

our tastes?

Most of the artists I like are in it for the "right
reasons". I don't think many people would accuse V/vm, Mala
or AFX of cynically making music to satisfy the market. I am
aware that this isn't the case for most music most people
listen to.


 

offline EpicMegatrax from Greatest Hits on 2012-08-24 09:48 [#02439955]
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i think it's about being into certain things that others are
into, but still having something different to add. AFX, for
example, comes out of a lot of other acts (drexciya,
kraftwerk, john cage, etc.) while being clearly distinct
from all of them. the idea that any artist is devoid of
influences is insane. we all grew up with music, and
whatever we've heard comes back out when we write more
music, along with a bit of our own personal pizazz piled on
top.


 

offline sadist from the dark side of the moon on 2012-08-24 09:57 [#02439956]
Points: 8670 Status: Lurker



this thread reminded me of the fact i haven't paid for music
for a dozen years now.


 

offline EpicMegatrax from Greatest Hits on 2012-08-24 10:02 [#02439957]
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why not ??


 

offline sadist from the dark side of the moon on 2012-08-24 10:04 [#02439958]
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that's a pretty damn good question .


 

offline EpicMegatrax from Greatest Hits on 2012-08-24 10:06 [#02439959]
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TROLL ALERT


 

offline sadist from the dark side of the moon on 2012-08-24 10:12 [#02439960]
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no no, i'm absolutely serious. it just kind of, well
escalated. i was buying a lot of cassettes back in the days,
afterwards a few cd's but they were just so expensive.


 

offline EpicMegatrax from Greatest Hits on 2012-08-24 10:28 [#02439961]
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buy A) vinyl or B) FLAC or 320mp3 C) nothing

just don't pay for itunes pandora drm streaming turd.

certain things that others are
into, but still having so...



 

offline Ceri JC from Jefferson City (United States) on 2012-08-24 11:03 [#02439962]
Points: 23533 Status: Moderator | Followup to EpicMegatrax: #02439961 | Show recordbag



I'd never pay for DRM-enabled music. I'd rather not listen
to it than tolerate the nonsense of not being able to burn a
CD of an MP3 I've earnt for the car, or copy it to my
phone.

One of the advantages of liking 'alternative' music is that
it tends to be the big, populist labels that pushes that
kind of shit. To quote Warp, the good guys, "...prefer not
to assume our customers are thieves."

The idea of paying for something intangible like an mp3
(rather than physical media, containing the same intangible
data) stills seems strange to me, but I'll do it in order to
get the artist some money. I'd much rather cut the whole
industry out of the nonsense and send the musician what I
think is a fair price. There are some artists/labels I do
that with. I understand that this model requires a customer
base with some sort of scruples and probably isn't viable
with the current youth (who, as ever, make up the
record-buying majority) being so used to just getting music
without paying for it.


 

offline misantroll from Switzerland on 2012-08-24 11:38 [#02439963]
Points: 2151 Status: Lurker



What/Why
Makes you choose to listen to the music you listen too?

I don't know I hear something I like and then I get
interested into the artist and maybe purchase an album or
two, sometimes I see an incredible music video and want to
know more about the artist and stuff, like for Die Antwoord
or recently Otto von Schirach. I come here to discover new
stuff because I don't really search for myself as music is
not that important for me...

Are you an avid collector? Do you feel the need to collect
all of an artists
Albums even if you don't like the content of all of them?

I'm not a collector by any means but I will buy every aphex
twin cds released so I don't spend all that much money
lately as you can guess.

Do you purchase music of a particular music because you are

part of a scene/tribe e.g. Your a punk/raver/junglist

Hell no.

Do you choose music because friends or the radio or net
Influence you?

I don't listen to radios and my friends mostly like rap shit
and reggea shit so obviously not.

Are you a bargain bin chancer just randomly choosing
albums?

As said before I rarely buy any album except tobin autechre
BOC or aphex.

Are you a downloading freeloader never purchasing anything
ever?

I download now because I often only like one tune on an
album so I take it without really being ashamed, also
downloading on the internet is legal in switzerland so...

Perhaps you are a musical snob only listening to underground

obscure music because you think it's better than other
genres?

No but almost every genre except IDM bores me very quickly.
I love some classical music once in a while tho.



 

offline dingle berry from on a small plastic chair breat (Haiti) on 2012-08-24 12:35 [#02439966]
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Cheers peeps these are all valid comments.
Literaly as I pulled a cd off of the shelf I bought years
ago "Plone" to be precise...
It made me think Christ things have changed..... Gone are
the days of chance happenings with previews and all of the
opportunities to grab music from everywhere......
Why do we choose what we choose.... Obviously personal
taste, but what governs that? Is there something in all of
our minds that premaps our tastes our acceptances of sounds
even our distastes?



 

offline dingle berry from on a small plastic chair breat (Haiti) on 2012-08-24 12:37 [#02439967]
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I wonder what we would all have made of the music we listen
to now..... When we were first introduced to music?


 

offline RussellDust on 2012-08-24 19:50 [#02439982]
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1) Because i like it.
2) Stopped 'collecting' 4-5 years ago. I stil buy records.
I've just stopped trying to keep up.
3) Last time i thought i was part of a scene was early
nineties. I used to listen mostly to hip hop and my
favourite hobby was graffiti. I would still also listen to
music dubed 'uncool' at times but i didn't want it to
change my status of being well hard.
4) Not one bit. Though i will listen to a mate once in a
while. Most of the people i know in my town don't like what
i listen to. Some treat it as like being at the zoo. They
are curious but won't be going back soon.
5)Ive rarely randomly bought a record by a completely
unknown artist i've never read, heard or been told about.
Money being an issue and maybe the fact it's silly. What
would be the criteria, how the cover looks, the sound of the
name?)
6) At times but i don't condone it. Though great to find out
of print stuff and maybe preview the odd album. I download a
lot of american TV series mind you!
7) Nope. And no one is going to say yes the way you put it.
8) I'm now on heroin because of cigarettes.
9) No. It's about deciphering patters isn't it? Spotting
them and your brain rewarding you. The music you like
shouldn't define your mental health
10) Yes
11) At times i soppose but for me no.
12)Less and less.


 

offline larn from PLANET E (United Kingdom) on 2012-08-25 01:03 [#02440018]
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'music for the thinking man'


 


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