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offline Martytan from somewhere in upstate new york (United States) on 2002-04-10 17:50 [#00166045]
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this is an excellent movie... did anyone here see it?


 

offline regital from Baltimore (United States) on 2002-04-10 18:54 [#00166089]
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That movie KICKS ASS! I really love all the lucid dreaming
information... although when I tried it, I couldn't lucid
dream.


 

offline Martytan from somewhere in upstate new york (United States) on 2002-04-10 22:27 [#00166404]
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the animation is incredible...

y'all should rent it.


 

offline BaronVonPickleF from United States on 2002-04-10 22:30 [#00166411]
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I walk a thin line of good and evil coincidentally We all
believe in god and nature and higher levels Yet we dwell
with devil's machinery in lower levels of raped scenery It's
seemingly endless Demeaning and mindless we're friendless
and meaningless Living in darkness walking with
candles!!!!!!!!!!!!!! THE BARON HAS SPOKEN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


 

offline Zombiekev from Ardmore (United States) on 2002-04-10 22:34 [#00166421]
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i wanna see it.
but i don't rent movies.


 

offline jupitah from Minneapolis (United States) on 2002-04-10 22:35 [#00166423]
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the ever expanding WOW!


 

offline jupitah from Minneapolis (United States) on 2002-04-10 22:36 [#00166425]
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rent it zombiekev. you really don't have much of a choice
in this one.


 

offline Martytan from somewhere in upstate new york (United States) on 2002-04-10 22:37 [#00166427]
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or search for it on amazon.... it's worth buying


 

offline jupitah from Minneapolis (United States) on 2002-04-10 22:39 [#00166431]
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It's from the director of Dazed and Confused I think. Quite
a different film though.


 

offline Martytan from somewhere in upstate new york (United States) on 2002-04-10 22:43 [#00166441]
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super perfundo....


 

offline wayout from the street of crocodiles on 2002-05-20 03:04 [#00226151]
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i believe he also directed 'slackers' which is actually
quite similar to this one (without all the beautiful
animation, of course)


 

offline steve from chicago on 2002-05-20 03:09 [#00226153]
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I don't know if it's a masterpiece of film making but it's
definitely worth checking out. There's a lot of
thought-provoking dialogue in this film. I saw Vanilla Sky
yesterday for the first time, that's another one worth
checking out.


 

offline optimus prime on 2002-10-13 01:11 [#00402053]
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LOVE waking life.

vanilla sky.. wow was that a complete waste.


 

offline AMinal from Toronto (Canada) on 2002-10-13 01:12 [#00402054]
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ive heard of it..... i really want to see it


 

offline corngrower from the fertile grounds of Iowa, w (United States) on 2003-05-12 12:50 [#00695612]
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I just saw this movie for the first time last week, and
ended up buying it and watching it several times... really
great, especially since I've been experimenting in lucid
dreaming latly. I've gotten very close, but always lose my
dream state when I figure out I'm dreaming.


 

offline corngrower from the fertile grounds of Iowa, w (United States) on 2003-05-12 12:54 [#00695614]
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last night I was just falling asleep after smoking a lot of
pot, and began a dream where I was talking to some women...
as the dream was fresh, I realized I was dreaming, and began
to wake up. However, I woke up feeling very groggy, and
could hardly move or make a sound. I lugged myself over to
my door, and tried to turn on the light switch, but it
didn't work, just like in the fucking movie! I collapst to
the ground and started to feel panick setting in, then
looked back at my bed and realized I was looking at myself
sleeping. Then I woke up. It was very strange.


 

offline jupitah from Minneapolis (United States) on 2003-05-12 12:56 [#00695615]
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what i loved about this movie was its ability to induce the
feeling of a dream in me. no film has ever come as close as
this one to simulating how a dream feels.


 

offline corngrower from the fertile grounds of Iowa, w (United States) on 2003-05-12 13:00 [#00695619]
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exactly! I watched it last night right before going to bed
(and smoking lots of pot while watching), and felt like I
was already dreaming when it was over! Then I had that
experience I described above. This has instantly become one
of my all time favorite movies, I'm so glad my buddy turned
me on to it!


 

offline plaidzebra from so long, xlt on 2003-05-12 13:37 [#00695641]
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i also thought waking life was excellent. if you rent it,
though, be sure to rent the dvd (if you have a dvd player)
so you can see it as i was intended to be seen, ie not
formatted for your tv. to everyone who loved waking life,
and appreciated its concern with the world of the dreaming,
i recommend very enthusiastically the french film "city of
lost children." the only problem is the translated
subtitles on the dvd are not particularly accurate, and this
partly obscures the development of certain themes and
events. you must, however, watch the dvd widescreen so that
the frame is not cropped.


 

offline jupitah from Minneapolis (United States) on 2003-05-12 13:39 [#00695644]
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been meaning to see that film for a while.


 

offline plaidzebra from so long, xlt on 2003-05-12 13:51 [#00695647]
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a brief synopsis to entice you into the city of lost
children: children are disappearing mysteriously from this
unnamed port city. a strange religious cult which demands
the renunciation of sight may be responsible. or are the
crimes linked to a syndicate of pickpocket children run by
evil conjoined twins? another set of clues can be found at
a secret lab out in the port beyond a minefield where a
madman -unable to dream himself- attempts to extract the
pleasant dreams of children with an elaborate device. when
a strongman with the mind of a child loses his adopted
little brother to this mystery, he is joined by a little
girl with the mind of an adult to try to rescue the boy.
the key to everything is held by the man who created the
madman and his minions, but he lives underwater and suffers
from amnesia. if he can be awakened, the chain of suffering
can be broken. don't blink, or you will miss it.




 

offline plaidzebra from so long, xlt on 2003-05-12 13:54 [#00695648]
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another fantastic dream related film is mulholland drive.
what if a mystery is only a smokescreen of our own creation
to protect us from that which we are unable to face?


 

offline jupitah from Minneapolis (United States) on 2003-05-12 14:52 [#00695688]
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we do have a way creating and hiding behind smokescreens.


 

offline MachineofGod from the land of halo's (United States) on 2003-05-12 15:06 [#00695700]
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this movie is incredible, slacker and tape are brilliant
films as well and reccomend seeing all three of these post
haste if you havent already.


 

offline ambsace from canaDUH. on 2003-05-12 15:25 [#00695718]
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the animation is the only thing that kept me watching. i
actually turned it off half-way through because i was so
bored. just didn't do it for me.


 

offline plaidzebra from so long, xlt on 2003-05-12 17:03 [#00695828]
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waking life definitely tests some people's patience, since
there is no narrative as such, the development of the main
character is ambiguously related to a series of metaphysical
conversations, and aside from the earnest inquiry of the
participants there is no agenda or position presented. it
is very heavy on the dialog. it was easier to see it in the
cinema where the film totally saturates your field of
vision, a more immersive experience.


 

offline plaidzebra from so long, xlt on 2003-05-12 17:06 [#00695832]
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for what it's worth, i wouldn't recommend "tape." it felt
like a long exercise at an actor's workshop.


 

offline flim nanou from out of the frying pan (United States) on 2003-05-12 17:33 [#00695845]
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hey plaid zebra, I like you!
didn't the fellow responsible for "amelie" do "city of lost
children?" I have heard that they are radically different,
however
the fellow on the bridge with the peculiar voice and the
wild curly hair is the subject of my favorite movie, which
is called "the cruise"
it's a documentary about timothy "speed" levitch who is a
tour guide for a ny bus co.... he's one of my most favorite
people ever...you just have to see it, it's incredible


 

offline mimi on 2003-05-12 20:59 [#00696038]
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yeah, vanilla sky was a complete waste, you hit that on the
nail.

waking life was all right, not a classic. it looked pretty
cool, and the dialogue was moderately interesting (very
captivating at certain points), but not the sort of thing
that really interests me.


 

offline mappatazee from ¨y¨z¨| (Burkina Faso) on 2003-05-12 21:32 [#00696057]
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Great movie. I was lucky enough to see it in a theatre here.


 

offline uviol from United States on 2003-05-12 21:42 [#00696065]
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Excellent film!! Really makes you think.. plus the
animation is top of the line. i love the way that at some
times it almost looks photorealistic and then five minutes
later it's completely abstract.


 

offline plaidzebra from so long, xlt on 2003-05-12 23:26 [#00696139]
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jean-pierre jeunet and marc caro were the team that made
"delicatessen" and "city of lost children," but "amelie" was
jeunet alone.


 

offline tibbar from harrisburg, pa (United States) on 2003-05-12 23:30 [#00696144]
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"holy moment" was hilarious


 

offline plaidzebra from so long, xlt on 2003-05-12 23:33 [#00696145]
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i think "the cruise" has been released on video, but not on
dvd. i wonder how hard it is to find as a rental. has
anyone else here seen it besides flim?


 

offline od_step_cloak from Pleth (Australia) on 2003-05-13 00:07 [#00696172]
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haven't seen it but some of my mates have and they said it's
totally right up my alley


 

offline tibbar from harrisburg, pa (United States) on 2003-05-13 00:09 [#00696174]
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it takes a bit to get over the animation to where you are
actually soaking in the content, cuz the artwork is SO
beautifully done


 

offline manticore from London (ON) (Canada) on 2003-05-13 01:52 [#00696195]
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waking life is perhaps one of the best films in my recent
memory - and one which is worth watching time and again to
appreciate the various visual and thematic intricacies which
it has to offer. an interesting experiment for me was
watching the film in various states of consciousness - i was
sober as a doornail in my initial viewing of it - and all
the better for it as it allowed me to absorb the concepts
persented in it more accurately. the second time around it
was with the aid of (yes, typical, i know) marijuana, and
the way the visuals impacted my perception of the film and
the themes presented therein as a result made it an entirely
different, and incredible of an experience. the third time
around was during an evening involving reasonable quantities
of alcohol, and this in turn sparked a long and
intellectually stimulating debate on a variety of subjects -
anything from the confines of logic to relationships, etc.
all in all, it must be said that waking life is without a
doubt one of the most intellectually engaging and
stimulating movies out there. another one worthy of multiple
viewings, and one which treats on many similar themes
(although the approach is entirely different) is BARAKA -
i'm assuming most of the people who have posted under this
topic have likely seen this film as well. any thoughts?


 

offline Daphex_Dewine from Lilla Edet (Sweden) on 2003-05-13 01:53 [#00696198]
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no but im sure wanna see it god damnit=)


 

offline manticore from London (ON) (Canada) on 2003-05-13 01:57 [#00696203]
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also, i must go against the plaidzebra grain here and say
that 'Tape' was a rather interesting movie. The reason many
people consider it a rather boring and dreary watch is for
the fact that there is not all too much going on in as far
as action is concerned, and the emphasis is placed on the
subject matter which unfolds itself in the dialogues. it is
based on a play, which may partially explain it's monotony,
but if anyone ever wanted to witness a clever visualisation
of the freudian concept of the id, ego and superego
(represented here respectively by the each of the three
characters), this is definitely a movie you ought to see!


 

offline manticore from London (ON) (Canada) on 2003-05-13 02:05 [#00696208]
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as far as vanilla sky is concerned, the original spanish
film it was based on, 'open your eyes' is far more worthy of
one's attention. to be perfectly honest, however, certain
elements were better depicted in vanilla sky and vice versa,
so if one were to merge the best aspects of the two films,
you would get one incredible movie. that said, a much
better movie on a similar subject as 'waking life',
'mulholland drive', 'lost highway' et al. is 'THE OTHERS',
written & directed by Alejandro Amenabar (who also directed
'Open Your Eyes') which i personally thought was an
absolutely impeccable film, both in terms of the visuals as
well as the subject matter. also, has anyone seen Hal
Hartley's 'NO SUCH THING'? another thinker, starring the
ever beautiful Sarah Polley.


 

offline celloncllone from anywhere but in (Germany) on 2003-05-13 04:34 [#00696321]
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the holy moment explains why the movie was animated, it was
to give people the opportunity to make up a lot of the
story, to fill in the gaps themselves and use their
imagination, which doesnt happen in an actual film, because
you are filming that "specific woman" looking a "specific
way"....

i enjoyed how this movie drew me in and confronted me with
these usually unspoken things


 

offline KEYFUMBLER from DUBLIN (Ireland) on 2003-05-13 04:47 [#00696329]
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i too enjoyed this flm for its suitability to being well
stoned... the wobbly toasters etc. Also, i thought its
meandering narative was totally in sync with the visual
style......... a great film for the cinema when stoned. it
meay loose soemthing on smaller screen but ... i may just
get it out tonight


 

offline jupitah from Minneapolis (United States) on 2003-05-13 10:00 [#00696647]
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R.I.P. Charles Gunning (red guy in prison)


 

offline virginpusher from County Clare on 2003-05-13 10:03 [#00696648]
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I liked this movie. I thought the animation was great!
Interesting set of characters....such as that guy with the
can of gas.


 

offline REFLEX from Edmonton, Alberta (Canada) on 2003-05-13 10:36 [#00696679]
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ohmy fucking god, this movie was one of the worst ive EVER
EVER seen in my life, like holy shit such great fucking
stupid lines as "what if were really dreaming...", isnt this
shit that we all thought when we werelike 14 years old? this
movie was such a dissapointment, but I laughed, cause half
way through we all stopped watching, fuck that movie, lame
idea, shitty art, and the concept can go to hell, its for
some artsy fartsy fuck to think they are smart or
something.... holy fuck this movie makes me angry, its
SOOOOOOOO Bad. MTV generation eat your heart out we got in
depth WAKING LIFE, the shit end of society.


 

offline tibbar from harrisburg, pa (United States) on 2003-05-13 10:39 [#00696685]
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arent we a bit angry?


 

offline REFLEX from Edmonton, Alberta (Canada) on 2003-05-13 10:43 [#00696691]
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well I suppose, Im having a really bad morning today, but
uh.. yeah I mean those are some of my valid points as to why
I hate this film, its just SUPER overrated by people who
think its smart or something, which it totally isnt, its
small and boring.


 

offline tibbar from harrisburg, pa (United States) on 2003-05-13 10:46 [#00696695]
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i like linklater, what can i say?

i liked dazed and confused
i liked slacker
i liked before sunrise
i liked waking life
i will probably like tape, if i ever see the thing


 

offline REFLEX from Edmonton, Alberta (Canada) on 2003-05-13 11:13 [#00696723]
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i like dazed and confused....... slacker was ok too..waking
life was just... bullshit.


 

offline plaidzebra from so long, xlt on 2003-05-13 11:35 [#00696741]
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manticore- i can certainly appreciate that some people would
find more to appreciate in "tape" than i did. as a matter
of fact, the production was also centered around an approach
that (i think is linked to a danish director) that puts
certain constraints on budget, sets, etc. so there will
only be one set (in this case, a hotel room) and a very
limited budget. in other words, imposing restrictions as a
challenge to transcend the restrictions. i always try to
acknowledge, also, that viewing a videotape (as i did with
"tape") is not the same as seeing a film in the cinema.


 


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