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NewSkoolScience
from Outer Bongolia on 2010-10-30 22:28 [#02397159]
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Good grief, will this _ever_ see the light of day?
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goDel
from ɐpʎǝx (Seychelles) on 2010-10-30 22:31 [#02397161]
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no no no
next please....
and no new boards either
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NewSkoolScience
from Outer Bongolia on 2010-10-31 16:55 [#02397215]
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I see Martin from tBD has heard it, so it does exist (in some form). But it seems that Plaid are also no longer signed to Warp. Mysterious, very mysterious.
BoC. Even more odd.
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melack
from barcielwave on 2010-10-31 17:02 [#02397217]
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no rock, no warp
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NewSkoolScience
from Outer Bongolia on 2010-10-31 17:11 [#02397218]
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Battles, Grizzy Bear and Maximo Park. That's where Warp are at these days :S
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goDel
from ɐpʎǝx (Seychelles) on 2010-10-31 17:11 [#02397219]
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if scintilli was released when it was finished, we'd be listening to their new new album by now. i'd love them to release scintilli, but they might as well call it "from the archives".
seriously: i don't see why they haven't released it as a digital only from their own page yet. must have something to do with contracts and all, but i do hope they make the right choice and do the radiohead.
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chassis
from the bottom of a pint glass (Heard and McDonald Islands) on 2010-11-01 00:38 [#02397232]
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Ken is the talented one
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revpersona
from Plainfield (United States) on 2010-11-01 09:12 [#02397245]
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Ken is talented there is no denying this, but what an utter ignorant statement. Especially considering the fact that besides Plaid - Ed and Andy were involved in Balil, Atypic, Close, Up, Over, and Tura.
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cx
from Norway on 2010-11-01 14:18 [#02397249]
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where do you see that they aren't signed to warp?
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chassis
from the bottom of a pint glass (Heard and McDonald Islands) on 2010-11-01 15:07 [#02397250]
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I was only messing with your head, dont loose it.
I think Plaid are big enough to get on without warp. I think Im kinda glad about this. Warp are being lil shits lately.
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revpersona
from Plainfield (United States) on 2010-11-02 01:26 [#02397304]
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Hard to tell with people on this forum over the years. For the longest time Ed, Andy, and Ken were marginalized on here until the "scene" died out.
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ladyb0i
on 2010-11-02 08:30 [#02397311]
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revp: LOL...wut?
Ken is talented, but a freak. According to him, Boards of Canada does not have any relevance after 911.
He is the one who talks about Plaid not being signed to Warp, btw.
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cx
from Norway on 2010-11-02 09:06 [#02397313]
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is anyone even signed anymore? doesnt it mean to have a certain album contract like for 4 albums? i guess warp doesnt do those so they can reject any album from any of their artists?
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revpersona
from Plainfield (United States) on 2010-11-02 09:06 [#02397314]
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What do you not understand? As for Ken...I never spoke to him personally that I know of. I have read some of his stuff on TBD forum and can kind of guess what kind of person he is.
I never really gave it too much thought. I don't follow him with some of his parallels to the world and music, but I think I myself would agree with a lot of his opinions on how the world is.
And it was Ken that mentioned it first, but he had heard that from Martin (who I suspect is the one behind their twitter account).
And a freak? Come on, from stuff you read on a forum??
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ladyb0i
on 2010-11-02 09:20 [#02397316]
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Q: What do you not understand? A: "For the longest time Ed, Andy, and Ken were marginalized on here until the "scene" died out."
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revpersona
from Plainfield (United States) on 2010-11-02 09:38 [#02397317]
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On this particular forum - Plaid, TBD (89-93), and Aliases were always second-tier to the likes of RDJ, AE, BoC, and Squarepusher. Once the "scene", whatever you wish to call it started to die out (which effected this forum) music discussion went away and stayed there, for obvious reasons.
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revpersona
from Plainfield (United States) on 2010-11-02 09:38 [#02397318]
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Make that 1994 - the original trio in other words.
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ladyb0i
on 2010-11-02 09:53 [#02397319]
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Oh. I can't remember that Plaid/TBD always was a second tier here, but then again, I didn't even notice that the "scene" "died" "out."
I better start paying some attention to things around me!
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revpersona
from Plainfield (United States) on 2010-11-02 09:59 [#02397320]
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We do need more trolling around these parts. Carry on good sir.
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ladyb0i
on 2010-11-02 10:22 [#02397321]
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Yes. I do not agree that Plaid/TBD has had a status as second tier, or been marginalised here in any way. At the same time, I think that statements about the electronic scene died out, is silly. I think it's more alive than ever.
Therefore; me=trolling
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revpersona
from Plainfield (United States) on 2010-11-02 21:34 [#02397388]
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Well, you would be wrong in both points. Going back to 2002, there has always been more traffic regarding the other Warp artists mentioned earlier. If you feel the need go back through the archives for proof be my guest. An easier way to prove my point is look at WATMM. Which artist was the last one on there to get it's own sub-forum and how much later than the others. (Hint: It's not Cylob)
As for the scene....it's self evident. Back in the early 2000s we steady releases from all the "big names" on WARP. Where has WARP gone recently? It was already mentioned above. It's only natural that things of this nature happen. Are you saying Jungle never died out from it's height? Sure it came back, but you know very well when its peak was, same with Hardcore, Electro, etc.
So then what do you call it? It's obvious when the peak was. I don't think my comments are silly at all. How come this forum has been less about music than it was earlier on and more about random things non-music related?
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revpersona
from Plainfield (United States) on 2010-11-02 21:36 [#02397389]
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we steady=with steady
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chassis
from the bottom of a pint glass (Heard and McDonald Islands) on 2010-11-02 22:44 [#02397391]
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All the founding artists of this genre are getting older. Im sure they have lives to live, families etc. Just because the theyre not releasing new stuff doesnt mean its dead. Autechre (who I still think have "it") released and album and an EP, the Black Dog put out quite a few releases this year. We're on the verge of seeing new releases from Aphex, Plaid and Boards of Canada and your telling me we're not getting steady electronic music?!
As for new bands and artists, of course theyre not going to sound exactly like stuff back in 2000 and before. That would be boring and involve people ripping off other people. Also the tech is changing. Its less about hardware and more about software. Barcode can stick his opinion up his arse, hardware is expensive, messy and time consuming. It just makes sense for people to use software now.
"IDM" is a term used by pretentious music nerds to make themselves feel better that the rest. I couldn't give a shit if it dies. However if you're telling me that electronic music is dying out you're either not looking very hard or you're a moron. I recommend checking out recent releases on Skam and Mu among other record labels.
IM FUCKING UP TO MY EYES IN MUSIC!!!! Most of it is amazing too.
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chassis
from the bottom of a pint glass (Heard and McDonald Islands) on 2010-11-02 22:46 [#02397392]
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Oh yeah and Squarepusher just released an album. But I find all you old farts would rather shite on about the so called glory days than give a new rekkid a listen and a chance.
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bingob
on 2010-11-02 23:00 [#02397393]
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What´s this "scene" you guys are talking about? Electronic music in general? I don´t know when/if that peaked, but I think it´s still pretty vital. If you are talking about some "IDM/Braindance scene", it peaked way before this mb was up.
And the reason this place is less about music and more about crap isn´t because there is a lack of interesting music out there. I guess it´s a cycle that goes on a lot of messageboards. Good messageboards attracts bored people. The problem with xlt is a webmaster who hasn´t cared for years, and a lack of moderation.
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Falito
from Balenciaga on 2010-11-02 23:19 [#02397394]
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better eat
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revpersona
from Plainfield (United States) on 2010-11-02 23:48 [#02397395]
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My point isn't about music being released. Music can still be released while something is on the decline. Jungle was still released albeit more sparingly as the 90s and 00s came and went, same thing here.
I'm not talking about hacks ripping off the "old bands." Simply put, music discussion has gone WAY down since the early 2000s on this forum and others. You could say Electronic Music in general is on a decline with the exception of the oh so interesting dubstep.
As for the term, yeah it's b/s. I kept quoting scene because I am talking about our little bubble here (I guess I should have said IDM instead of scene). Yes people like other music, but for the most part it dealt with labels like WARP, µ, SKAM, Rephlex, etc.
Bingob touched on various reasons for this forum going belly up, which is a reference to how I see this niche.
I know I touched on new releases, and perhaps some of my own opinions about music are fueling what I believe to be true. I personally have stopped following many of these artists and labels for many years and have ventured backwards into the Detroit-influenced Techno and Electro of the past and present.
I don't know what else I can say other than the discussion (interest) has gone way down hill here and elsewhere over the last few years.
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chassis
from the bottom of a pint glass (Heard and McDonald Islands) on 2010-11-03 19:15 [#02397449]
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Its all been said before so lets just enjoy the music huh.
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