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-crazone
from smashing acid over and over on 2009-04-15 10:55 [#02286120]
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Am I crazy or do you all still support the industry? I only buy vinyl unless there is no vinyl release. But honestly: do you still buy music? And what are you latest purchases?
Mine: WISP, The Shimmering Hour (preorder) VENETIAN SNARES, Filth JAMIE VEXD, In System Travel EP VARIOUS PRODUCTION, As It Stops Raining (Featuring Georgia's Horse)
DISTANCE / SKREAM / GOTH-TRAD, Night Vision (Skream Mix) / Traffic (Goth-Trad Mix)
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Four Giants
on 2009-04-15 11:08 [#02286121]
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I rarely buy music. If it's an artist I know and like, then I will pay for their music. But most of the time the only way I can listen to what other people have made is buy "stealing" it.
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Samuel L Jigsaw
from swine flu central on 2009-04-15 11:15 [#02286122]
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I buy music when I can afford it because I'm not one of these lame people that think musicians just toss their work off in the evenings and should just get a job and work like the rest of us THE BUMS.
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Mask 500
from now on 2009-04-15 11:23 [#02286123]
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I don't have moneys for vinyl so I stick with buying flacs on juno download.
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cx
from Norway on 2009-04-15 11:57 [#02286131]
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i usually buy on bleep.
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ijonspeches
from 109P/Swift-Tuttle on 2009-04-15 12:28 [#02286133]
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bought some lately:
syntheme - !!album<3!! and vol.1 dirty princess - jugar al reves & marine (picdiscs) bochum welt - r.o.b.
i dont know where i took the money for it, cause i dont work for a living and usually buy just a few records a year.
want to get more ceephax, but vol.1 & 2 i didnt like:/
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vlari
from beyond the valley of the LOLs on 2009-04-15 12:50 [#02286138]
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i download on limewire
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larn
from PLANET E (United Kingdom) on 2009-04-15 13:48 [#02286144]
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i paid for quaristice off bleep, that was my last purchase but i have acquired new music since then from other sources
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Guybrush
from the white room on 2009-04-15 14:06 [#02286156]
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If its good I'll still buy it. I only download unobtainable stuff. I think the last thin I stole was er about 3 years ago. I don't like legit mp3's tho. The few times I've paid for mp3's I've felt conned,paying pretty much the same as shop price for an inferior product. Yes I know, shut up already.
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dariusgriffin
from cool on 2009-04-15 15:25 [#02286181]
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I don't buy anything and I wouldn't want anyone to buy anything from me.
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Fah
from Netherlands, The on 2009-04-15 15:31 [#02286182]
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i usually buy on juno, mostly vinyl unless indeed there's no vinyl release, i'll just go for the CD
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TroutMask
from New York City (United States) on 2009-04-15 16:21 [#02286185]
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I've started to use Bleep and other similar services, but I'm still a "download to try, purchase to buy" kind of listener. I pay for every recording I listen to more than once.
To me, there just isn't any way to reasonably handle the industry's problems if you're going to be dealing in terms of purchasing a physical commodity - that aspect of the industry is heading out the door. CDs and DVDs will only be the primary delivery method for the next 8-10 years; after that, we will be dealing with non-physical purchasing, which will necessitate subscription-based services or some other ingenious marketing/delivery strategy.
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-crazone
from smashing acid over and over on 2009-04-15 16:29 [#02286187]
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Glad to hear some people still buy their music, i'm not the only crazy one out there. I dont understand why there are people who only download music for free. Are you cheap asses? or dont you believe in this system? Musicians have to make a living to imo. But I dont understand people who pay for their downloads (f.e. bleep) too. When i buy something I want something fysical in my hands.
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ijonspeches
from 109P/Swift-Tuttle on 2009-04-15 16:40 [#02286192]
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they could at least add some artwork like covers or posters to print along with downloads to get to the physical experience. thought about byung some flacs of albums i wouldnt buy or are out of stock and a few such goodies to print yoself wouldnt be much hassle.
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-crazone
from smashing acid over and over on 2009-04-15 16:51 [#02286197]
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nope but printing stuff doesnt feel the same as the real stuff imo..it still feels fake in my hands.
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pulseclock
from Downtown 81 on 2009-04-15 17:05 [#02286199]
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i thought artists who release records on well-known labels get paid even before record sales factor into it. Like when an author gets paid for his book and not for his sales, that's how the retail stores and labels make their money nowadays right?
Itunes doesn't make sense, since i bought a couple tracks from Quasimoto's Unseen album i just bought every other individual track off of the album, each track was a dollar, thats like 30.00 USD, but if you click, "buy album" you can get them all for just 10$
It wouldn't let me click buy album because i already had a couple tracks from the album, that is NOT FIAR
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MASUGNEN
from Lund (Sweden) on 2009-04-15 17:08 [#02286200]
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Syntheme: Lasers and Shit Acid Junkies: Acid Life 1 Kraftwerk: Der Mix (German version) Sonic Youth: Silver Sessions Ceephax: Drive Time
Only CD purchases, in order to fight poverty I've decided never to vinylize (let's see how long I can take it). Downloading has stopped for me, it intoxicated my life.
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Cliff Glitchard
from DEEP DOWN INSIDE on 2009-04-15 17:30 [#02286203]
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i tape all my musak from the wireless
the trick is to pause before anyone speaks
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glasse
from Harrisburg (United States) on 2009-04-15 21:17 [#02286235]
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i only d/l off p2p if i need a single track for a mix, want to hear before i buy, or if i am just getting some old shit that i don't feel like rebuying, etc.
anything i intend to keep i buy, although i have shared with friends, (i'll buy one album, a friends buys another, and we rip each others.) capatalism hates it, but i would rather see good artist and pretty good artist both get a sale, rather than good artist gets 2 sales and pretty good artist gets 0.
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mohamed
from the turtle business on 2009-04-16 12:49 [#02286360]
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music lovers have to make a living too, and they have to do that without incredible talents and round the world tripping. but if a musician give them some minutes of music they feel in the deepest recesses of the mind, a musician is very well payed making a music lover's day.
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-crazone
from smashing acid over and over on 2009-04-16 13:34 [#02286364]
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very well said but imo if someone has got talent men must explore this right? If a musician must make money in a different way he's got less time to explore it.
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mohamed
from the turtle business on 2009-04-16 13:48 [#02286366]
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that is a valid point, in fact i'm for give some money if you have some to give.. although i'm not sure that music for money is always an absolute equation. let's put it this way, would really you give a fuck of money if you were a talentful sound maker? would you really give a fuck of what the people think of your music when you do it for yourself first? what else is better of someone feeling genuinely insane for something that you did? money? i don't think so.. it's just hugely reductive :)
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mohamed
from the turtle business on 2009-04-16 13:52 [#02286367]
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and imho, if one starts caring more about money than the passion.. then he/she should immediately stop bothering with sounds and start a insurance business.
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Barcode
from United Kingdom on 2009-04-16 15:00 [#02286385]
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Don't you think creative people should be encouraged to be able to make a living from what they do? How can they give all their time to music if they have a 9 to 5 job? Not realistic is it?
In most jobs you get paid for the work you do, whereas in the arts it seems to be acceptable to give everything away for free.
Still, there's no going back now - the key is for creative people to find ways of selling their product that goes beyond MP3 - perhaps putting more attention into live work, or physical releases that are more attractive to the consumer than a plastic case with a slip of paper inside.
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leech
from China (Hong Kong S.A.R.) on 2009-04-16 16:11 [#02286393]
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i buy albums when i have money to spend. i enjoy the very event of traveling into london my car at night and taking my time finding soild hard albums with artwork to admire. i need pleasures like this to look forward to. (very sad to see virgin megastore closed down)
imo, musicans in this genre def dont make enough from their sales. their main source of income is either some part time job non related to music, or other music projects ie. music scores, touring, remixes...
worse comes to worse they become high art music critics.
id imagine most musicians want recognition before wanting masses about of money. of course money helps, feed the belly and have a roof over your head...
STEVE ROACH, Landmass STEVE REICH, Tehillim The Desert Music ROBERT LOGAN, Accurate Spit Boy vinyl EP AUTECHRE, Quaristice (steel limited Edition)
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fleetmouse
from Horny for Truth on 2009-04-16 18:01 [#02286406]
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In most jobs you get paid for the work you do, whereas in
the arts it seems to be acceptable to give everything away for free.
This is because of the vast oversupply of artists. The herd needs to be culled back to sustainable levels with a courageous program of sterilization and lobotomy.
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Indeksical
from Phobiazero Damage Control (United Kingdom) on 2009-04-16 18:04 [#02286407]
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I'm for this and volunteer myself for the first round. No longer will I sully this world with shit.
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melack
from barcielwave on 2009-04-16 18:28 [#02286408]
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no downloads, i only buy, CDs mostly, or vinyl if not available on Cd or *
recent: squarepusher's clark's last things on CD, tim exile blue vinyl (just for the color, dont think ill buy the album, but trakcs pretty great)
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melack
from barcielwave on 2009-04-16 18:29 [#02286410]
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thinking about a change for one time, and buying that bronnt industries kapital, lovely sleeve, but i dont know
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mohamed
from the turtle business on 2009-04-17 05:51 [#02286449]
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lol
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